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A message from the Competitive and Skills & Balance Teams:

Hi folks! The Competitive team and the Skills & Balance team have been working together closely on a future balance release that focuses almost entirely on PvP and WvW skill splits. As part of this, we wanted to switch things up and approach this release similar to how we approached the PvP sigil changes we did a while back, when we released our first draft of the proposed changes.

With this set of proposed changes, we'd like to get your thoughts and ideas on both our high level goals and how we're going about accomplishing them. You guys may bring up concerns or thoughts we didn't consider. While reviewing these changes, please consider them as a whole rather than focusing on individual classes.

We're looking forward to a productive discussion!

High Level Goals

Reduce influence of passive traits. (PvP not WvW)

  • Passive skills make the game less skillful.
  • The prevalence of passives is a common competitive player complaint. (PvP only)

Increase build diversity

  • By decreasing the power of some of the more dominant builds, we hope to give increased viability to builds that previously were pushed out by these dominant specs. We're also increasing power levels in some targeted areas that previously were underperforming.

Reduce effectiveness of offensive instant cast skills/traits

  • Instant cast spells don't give players an opportunity to respond. While we don't want to remove combos utilizing instant cast abilities, we wanted to reduce the impact they have.

General

  • Rune of Surging has been removed from the PvP build panel
  • Magi Amulet has been removed from the PvP build panel

Warrior

Skills

  • Full Counter: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.75 to 1.5 (-14%) in PvP and WvW
  • Dagger Autoattack chain: Reduced the power coefficients from 0.55, 0.55, 0.85 to 0.4, 0.4, 0.85 (-15% overall) in PvP and WvW
  • Aura Slicer: Increased cooldown from 6 seconds to 8 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Disrupting Stab: Reduced stun duration from 1.5 seconds to 1 second in PvP and WvW
  • Breaching Strike: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.5 to 1.2 (-20%) in PvP and WvW
  • Break Enchantments: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.5 (-50%). Increased the number of boons removed from 2 to 3 in PvP and WvW
  • Featherfoot Grace: Increased the cooldown from 30 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Frenzy: Reduced the cooldown from 50 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP and WvW. Increased Might granted from 5 stacks to 10 stacks in PvP and WvW
  • Rampage Reduced the cooldown from 180 seconds to 100 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced transform duration from 15 seconds to 10 seconds
    • Kick: Reduced the cooldown from 6 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP and WvW
    • Dash: Reduced the cooldown from 6 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP and WvW
    • Throw Boulder: Reduced the cooldown from 12 seconds to 8 seconds in PvP and WvW
    • Seismic Leap: Reduced the cooldown from 15 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Battle Standard: Reduced the cooldown from 240 seconds to 180 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Crushing Blow: Increased the power coefficient from 1.2 to 1.5 (+25%) in PvP and WvW. Adjusted Vulnerability applied from 10 stacks for 10 seconds to 15 stacks for 6 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Tremor: Increased knockdown duration from 2 seconds to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Sword Autoattack chain: Increased the power coefficients from 0.6, 0.6, 0.6 to 0.6, 0.6, 1.0 (+22%) in PvP and WvW
  • Flurry: Increased the power coefficient from 1.04 to 2.0 (+92%) in PvP and WvW
  • Savage Leap: Increased the power coefficient from 0.75 to 1.0 (+33%) in PvP and WvW
  • Flaming Flurry: Increased the power coefficient from 1.04 to 2.0 (+92%) in PvP and WvW
  • "To the Limit!": Increased endurance granted from 50 to 100
  • Blood Reckoning: Increased damage to healing conversion from 20% to 25% in PvP and WvW. Increased Adrenaline gained from 10 to 30 in PvP and WvW
  • "On My Mark!:" Adjusted Vulnerability applied from 10 stacks for 10 seconds to 15 stacks for 6 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced ammo recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds in PvP and WvW.
  • "For Great Justice!": Adjusted Might granted from 6 stacks for 25 seconds to 12 stacks for 15 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • "Shake It Off!:" Increased the number of conditions cleansed from 2 to 3 in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Defy Pain: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Last Stand: Increased the cooldown from 40 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Shrug it Off: Increased the cooldown from 25 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP only
  • Dead or Alive: Increased the cooldown from 30 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP only

Revenant

Skills

  • Coalescence of Ruin: Reduced the power coefficient of the second impact from 1.75 to 1.5 (-14%) in WvW only. Reduced the power coefficient of the third impact from 2.25 to 1.75 (-22%) in WvW only.
  • Razorclaw's Rage: Increased the Bleeding duration from 2 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Icerazor's Ire: Increased the Power coefficient from 3.7 to 4.6 (+24%) in PvP and WvW
  • Soothing Stone: Increased the number of conditions cleansed from 3 to 5 in PvP and WvW
  • Vengeful Hammers: Reduced the upkeep cost from 7 to 6 in PvP and WvW
  • Forced Engagement: Reduced the energy cost from 25 to 10. Increased the cooldown from 10 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Embrace the Darkness: Increased the attribute bonus from 10% to 15% in PvP and WvW
  • Banish Enchantments: Increased the number of boons removed from 2 to 3 in PvP and WvW
  • Pain Absorption: Reduced the energy cost from 35 to 30 in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Eye for an Eye: Increased the cooldown from 45 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Versed in Stone: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Soothing Bastion: Increased the cooldown from 25 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP only

Guardian

Skills

  • Tome of Resolve – Epilogue: Eternal Oasis: Reduced the bonus heal effectiveness from 33% to 20% in PvP and WvW
  • Tome of Resolve – Chapter 2: Radiant Recovery: Reduced the healing power coefficient per condition cleansed from 0.77 to 0.5 (-35%) in PvP and WvW
  • Tome of Resolve – Chapter 1: Desert Bloom: Reduced the healing power coefficient from 0.96 to 0.8 (-17%) in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Resolve: Reduced the cooldown from 35 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Leap of Faith: Increased the power coefficient from 1.1 to 1.25 (+14%) in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Mercy: Reduced the cooldown from 150 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Sword of Justice: Reduced the ammo recharge time from 25 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Bow of Truth: Reduced the ammo recharge time from 30 seconds to 25 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Hammer of Wisdom: Reduced the ammo recharge time from 30 seconds to 25 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Feel my Wrath: Reduced the cooldown from 45 seconds to 35 seconds in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Virtuous Solace: Increased the cooldown from 75 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Hunter's Determination: Increased the cooldown from 75 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Zealous Blade: Increased the bonus damage from 5% to 10% in PvP and WvW

Thief

Skills

  • Dagger Autoattack chain: Reduced the power coefficients from 0.8, 0.85, 1.1 to 0.6, 0.65, 1.1 (-15% overall) in PvP and WvW
  • Heartseeker: Increased the power coefficients at all thresholds by 20% in PvP and WvW. The new values are as follows.
    • Above 50%: 1.0 to 1.2
    • Below 50%: 1.5 to 1.8
    • Below 25%: 2.0 to 2.4
  • Sword Autoattack chain: Reduced the power coefficients from 0.8, 0.8, 1.3 to 0.6, 0.6, 1.3 (-14% overall) in PvP and WvW
  • Roll for Initiative: Increased the cooldown from 35 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Shadow Shot: Increased the initiative cost from 4 to 5 in PvP and WvW. Increased Increased the power coefficient from 1.325 to 1.8 (+36%) in PvP and WvW
  • Infiltrator's Strike: Increased the power coefficient from .75 to .9 (+20%) in PvP and WvW
  • Cloak and Dagger: Reduced the initiative cost from 6 to 5 in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Shadows: Reduced the cooldown from 30 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Assassin's Signet: Reduced the cooldown from 30 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Smoke Screen: Reduced the cooldown from 30 seconds to 25 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Dagger Storm: Reduced the cooldown from 90 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Hide in Shadows: Increased the base healing from 5240 to 6026 (+15%) in PvP and WvW
  • Skelk Venom: Increased the venom heal per hit from 965 to 1206 (+25%) in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Pulmonary Impact: Reduced the power coefficient from 2.8 to 2.0 (-29%) in PvP and WvW
  • Upper Hand: Increased the cooldown from 3 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Panic Strike: Increased the cooldown from 20 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP and WvW. The WvW version of this trait will now use the PvP immobilize duration of 1.5 seconds
  • Instant Reflexes: Increased the cooldown from 40 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Pain response: Increased the cooldown from 16 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP only
  • Hard to Catch: Increased the cooldown from 45 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only

Ranger

Skills

  • Seed of Life: Increased the cooldown from 1 second to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Rejuvenating Tides: Reduced the base healing per pulse from 650 to 550 (-15%) in PvP and WvW
  • Solar Beam: Reduced the power coefficient per strike from 0.3 to 0.25 (-17%) in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Stone: Reduced the duration from 6 seconds to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 80 seconds to 40 in PvP and WvW
  • Celestial Avatar: Increased the cooldown from 15 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Ricochet: Increased the power coefficient from 0.7 to 0.8 (+14%) in PvP and WvW. Increased Might duration from 5 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Winter's Bite: Increased the power coefficient from 1.25 to 1.5 (+20%) in PvP and WvW. Increased the Bleeding duration from 8 seconds to 12 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Splitblade: Increased the power coefficient per axe from 0.3 to 0.4 (+33%) in PvP and WvW
  • Instinctive Engage: Increased the power coefficient from 0.6 to 1 (+67%) in PvP and WvW
  • Healing Spring: Increased the number of conditions cleansed per pulse from 1 to 2 in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Stoneform: Increased the cooldown from 70 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Shared Anguish: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Protective Ward: Increased the cooldown from 18 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only
  • Refined Toxins: Increased the cooldown from 5 seconds to 15 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Rugged Growth: Reduced the healing power coefficient from 0.245 to 0.1225 (-50%) in PvP and WvW
  • Grace of the Land: Reduced the number of Might stacks applied from 3 to 2 in PvP and WvW
  • Fortifying Bond: Reduced duration of shared Might stacks from 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • "We Heal as One!:" Reduced duration of copied Might stacks from 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Fresh Reinforcement: Reduced shared Might duration 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Ambidexterity: Increased the Condition Damage granted from 150 to 240 in PvP and WvW
  • Two-Handed Training: Increased the bonus damage from 5% to 10% in PvP and WvW

Engineer

Skills

  • Crystal Configuration: Eclipse: The stability portion of this trait will now be applied only upon successful hits of Corona Burst
  • Light Strike: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.6 (-40%) in PvP and WvW
  • Holo Leap: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.8 to 1.5 (-17%) in PvP and WvW
  • Corona Burst: Reduced the Might stacks granted per pulse from 2 to 1 in PvP and WvW
  • Holographic Shockwave: Reduced the power coefficient from 0.96 to 0.75 (-22%) in PvP and WvW
  • Spectrum Shield: Increased the shield duration from 3 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP and WvW. Increased the cooldown from 30 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Poison Dart Volley: Reduced the cooldown from 10 seconds to 8 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Glue Shot: Reduced the cooldown from 25 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Mortar Shot: Increased the power coefficient from 0.8 to 1.0 (+25%) in PvP and WvW
  • Poison Gas Shell: Increased the power coefficient from 0.75 to 1.0 (+33%) in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 12 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Endothermic Shell: Increased the power coefficient from 0.75 to 1.0 (+33%) in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 20 seconds to 15 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Flash Shell: Increased the power coefficient from 0.75 to 1.0 (+33%) in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 25 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Box of Nails: Reduced the cooldown from 10 seconds to 8 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Magnet: Reduced the cooldown from 25 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Throw Mine: Increased the damage from 1.8 to 2.0 (+11%) in PvP and WvW
  • Static Shock (A.E.D.): Increased the stun duration from 1 second to 2 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Elixir X: Reduced the duration of Tornado and Rampage transforms from 15 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 105 seconds to 75 seconds in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Aim Assisted Rocket: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.5 (-50%) in PvP and WvW
  • Minesweeper: Reduced the power coefficient of each mine from 1.0 to 0.67 (-33%) in PvP and WvW
  • Vent Exhaust: Reduced the power coefficient from 1.1 to 0.75 (-32%) in PvP and WvW
  • Protection Injection: Increased the cooldown from 10 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP only
  • Self-Regulating Defenses: Increased the cooldown from 75 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Reactive Lenses: Increased the cooldown from 40 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only

Elementalist

Skills

  • Glyph of Renewal: Reduced the cooldown from 165 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Stone Resonance: Increased the base Barrier granted per pulse from 972 to 1069 in PvP and WvW
  • Lesser Stone Resonance: Increased the base Barrier granted per pulse from 972 to 1069 in PvP and WvW
  • Shatterstone Increased the power coefficient from 1.0 to 1.66 (+66%) in PvP and WvW
  • Impale: Increased the power coefficient from 0.6 to 0.77 (+28%) in PvP and WvW
  • Ashen Blast: Increased the power coefficient from 0.77 to 1.1 (+43%) in PvP and WvW
  • Steam Surge: Increased the power coefficient from 1.0 to 1.5 (+50%) in PvP and WvW
  • Lightning Touch: Increased the power coefficient from 1.0 to 1.5 (+50%) in PvP and WvW
  • Ring of Earth: Increased the number of Bleeding stacks from 1 to 3 in PvP and WvW
  • Tornado: Reduced the cooldown from 150 seconds to 100 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced the transform duration from 15 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW.
    • Elemental Requiem: Reduced the cooldown from 5 seconds to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW
    • Dust Charge: Reduced the cooldown from 10 seconds to 7 seconds in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Burning Fire: Increased the cooldown from 40 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP only
  • Tempest Defense: Increased the cooldown from 25 seconds to 60 seconds in PvP only
  • Earth's Embrace: Increased the cooldown from 75 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Soothing Ice: Increased the cooldown from 20 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only
  • Final Shielding: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Gale Song: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Pyromancer's Puissance: Adjusted the Might granted from 1 stack for 15 seconds to 2 stacks for 10 seconds in PvP and WvW

Mesmer

Skills

  • Illusion of Life: Reduced the cooldown from 120 seconds to 75 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Phantasmal Disenchanter – Increased the cooldown from 20 seconds to 25 seconds in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Elusive Mind: This trait now applies 4 seconds of Exhaustion when breaking a stun
  • Compounding Power: Reduced the outgoing damage buff per stack from 3% to 2% in PvP and WvW
  • Phantasmal Force: Reduced the Might granted from 3 stacks to 2 stacks in PvP and WvW
  • Mirror of Anguish: Increased cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only

    Necromancer

Skills

  • Garish Pillar: Increased the cooldown from 15 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Desert Shroud: Increased the cooldown from 20 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Ghastly Breach: Increased the cooldown from 75 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Plague Signet: Increased the cooldown from 30 seconds to 40 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Trail of Anguish: Increased the cooldown from 25 seconds to 35 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Undeath: Reduced the cooldown from 150 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Life Siphon: Reduced the cooldown from 12 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Dark Pact: Reduced the cooldown from 25 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Vampirism: Reduced the cooldown from 35 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP and WvW. Increased the base heal from 3960 to 4950 (+25%) in PvP and WvW
  • Well of Blood: Increased the base heal from 5240 to 6026 (+15%) in PvP and WvW. Increased the heal per pulse from 280 to 490 (+75%) in PvP and WvW
  • Spectral Grasp: Reduced the cooldown from 50 seconds to 35 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Blood is Power: Adjusted the Might granted from 10 stacks for 10 seconds to 15 stacks for 6 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Well of Suffering: Reduced the cooldown from 35 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only. Increased the amount of Vulnerability applied per pulse from 2 stacks to 4 stacks in PvP only.
  • Signet of the Locust: Increased the power coefficient from 0.65 to 1.0 (+54%) in PvP and WvW. Increased the base heal per hit from 970 to 1455 (+50%) in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Reaper's Protection: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Last Gasp: Increased the cooldown from 50 seconds to 75 seconds in PvP only
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As a WvW player, I agree with the majority of these changes. However, this doesn't address one of the biggest issues facing WvW right now, resistance converting to immobilize. It makes resistance a liability for groups due to the amount of corrupts. Resistance shouldn't convert into immob, it should convert into literally anything else.

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At first glance most of these changes look good, however I'm very puzzled as to why Celestial Avatar CD is being increased, heals are being reduced, and GoTL is being nerfed. Druid is barely viable as a healer in WvW right now and this will likely kill it entirely.

Also, nerfing warrior damage is silly, they aren't overpreforming at all in that regard. Full counter and break enchantments coefs should stay as they are on live. Dagger changes make sense though.

Edit: I mean warrior damage in groups, not roaming. Dagger changes and featherfoot grace nerf should hit roaming spellbreaker hard enough to leave break enchantments and full counter as is in order to keep spellbreaker viable as melee dps in groups

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I will say this from a WvW perspective.

  • Guard/Necro: Pretty much everyone wants guardians and even more scourge. Those should be toned down. I think the changes mentioned will do that.
  • Rev: changes are questionable since without the damage of hammer 2, I don't think they will be wanted anymore.
  • Warrior: Where are the bubble changes in WvW?
  • Thief: I'm fine with the changes as mentioned. Some buffs and some nerfs.
  • Engineer: These are massive nerfs to holosmith. This should be a PvP only change. In WvW, no one wants a Engineer running in their group. Why make it even worse?
  • Ele: Good changes. Will start to bring some of them back
  • Mesmer/Ranger: Don't really care either way.
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So you nerf traits for elementalist, and only buff some scepter Skills ? What about Sword Weaver ? No buff at all ?Please, make sword viable in PvP. Weaver is in a very bad place at the moment in PvP.You really should increase Sword DPS, its really low even with Offensive Amulet.Autoattacks are very weak, you could increase the power coefficient.And make #3 Dual Skill From Sword easier to hit (increase range ?) because its nearly impossible to cast it, if ennemy is not immobilize or downed.Thanks !

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@"Gaile Gray.6029" said:A message from the Competitive and Skills & Balance Teams:

Ranger

Skills

  • Seed of Life: Increased the cooldown from 1 second to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Rejuvenating Tides: Reduced the base healing per pulse from 650 to 550 (-15%) in PvP and WvW
  • Solar Beam: Reduced the power coefficient per strike from 0.3 to 0.25 (-17%) in PvP and WvW
  • Signet of Stone: Reduced the duration from 6 seconds to 3 seconds in PvP and WvW. Reduced the cooldown from 80 seconds to 40 in PvP and WvW
  • Celestial Avatar: Increased the cooldown from 15 seconds to 20 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Ricochet: Increased the power coefficient from 0.7 to 0.8 (+14%) in PvP and WvW. Increased Might duration from 5 seconds to 10 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Winter's Bite: Increased the power coefficient from 1.25 to 1.5 (+20%) in PvP and WvW. Increased the Bleeding duration from 8 seconds to 12 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Splitblade: Increased the power coefficient per axe from 0.3 to 0.4 (+33%) in PvP and WvW
  • Instinctive Engage: Increased the power coefficient from 0.6 to 1 (+67%) in PvP and WvW
  • Healing Spring: Increased the number of conditions cleansed per pulse from 1 to 2 in PvP and WvW

Traits

  • Stoneform: Increased the cooldown from 70 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Shared Anguish: Increased the cooldown from 60 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP only
  • Protective Ward: Increased the cooldown from 18 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only
  • Refined Toxins: Increased the cooldown from 5 seconds to 15 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Rugged Growth: Reduced the healing power coefficient from 0.245 to 0.1225 (-50%) in PvP and WvW
  • Grace of the Land: Reduced the number of Might stacks applied from 3 to 2 in PvP and WvW
  • Fortifying Bond: Reduced duration of shared Might stacks from 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • "We Heal as One!:" Reduced duration of copied Might stacks from 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Fresh Reinforcement: Reduced shared Might duration 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP and WvW
  • Ambidexterity: Increased the Condition Damage granted from 150 to 240 in PvP and WvW
  • Two-Handed Training: Increased the bonus damage from 5% to 10% in PvP and WvW

These Ranger changes, as they are today, seem unduly harsh for WvW and the minimal buffs do nothing to make up for it. By reducing the Druid healing to the degree you have AND nerfing Signet of Stone you'll break Druid Sustain and not enable us to survive zerg or mid level engagements at all without being on the backline. A CA cooldown increase OR an nerf to healing coefficients seems far more appropriate. For Axe damage to be useful in WvW it needs to be increased more than +14% and Greatsword needs far more than an extra 5%. the 50% reduction in rugged growth i can understand but again not in addition to the Druid healing. LB and GS are a ranger or soulbeasts primary DPS weapons in WvW, optionally Sw/x in place of GS. These are the weapons that could use damage increases to make up for the loss of sustain. Making us more of a "high risk high reward" profession is fine if thats the direction you are headed but with these changes there is no reward.

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Reduce effectiveness of offensive instant cast skills/traits

  • Instant cast spells don't give players an opportunity to respond. While we don't want to remove combos utilizing instant cast abilities, we wanted to reduce the impact they have.

All I ever wanted for Wintersday.

I'm not fond of Cartman's version of Roshambo, and there has been too many builds around that worked by following the same spirit.The first hit should not win if avoiding the first hit is way more trouble than it deserves. or outright nearly impossible.

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@Hiraldo.7954 said:

Also, nerfing warrior damage is silly, they aren't overpreforming at all in that regard. Full counter and break enchantments coefs should stay as they are on live. Dagger changes make sense though.

Edit: I mean warrior damage in groups, not roaming. Dagger changes and featherfoot grace nerf should hit roaming spellbreaker hard enough to leave break enchantments and full counter as is in order to keep spellbreaker viable as melee dps in groups

I don't agree. Full Counter already does a lot as it is. Gives you defensive boons, absorbs the next incoming attack, refreshes your burst skills, dazes enemies and if you daze it removes a boon; on top of that the damage it does is insane and AoE. The nerf is valid. It is also good that they nerf Break Enchantments, it has a 15 seconds cool-down, it is unblockable, it will now remove 3 boons and if traited does extra damage when you remove a boon.

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I really don't understand why Rune of Surging is getting removed. It's not a passive proc because it's activated by the player, and it's not an immunity. Furthermore, it is the only PvP rune with power as a primary stat that has boon duration to it. Unless we get a replacement stat stick, this is yet another Revenant nerf.

Magi amulet removal makes no sense either. Why does Arenanet hate support builds? Healers in raids are fine, but not in PvP? They already removed all the optimal support amulets, why are they pushing? Not every profession has the luxury to create viable hybrid builds so the ones that had to go full support to properly do well in at least one field such as Firebrand and Ventari revenant will just cease to exist.

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