Renegade

[allias.1420]

So I've been trying renegade after this latest patch and I can safely say it is pretty much useless.

The main problem with this class persists:

• Very little survivability/almost non-existent
• Worst mobility of all specializations
• Average damage on top of skillshots (hard to land)
• Skills are still too expensive/energy depletes really fast
• Skills still take too long to cast

I've tried all variants of renegade except ventari. Does anyone know of a renegade build that is kind of okay-ish?My suggestion is to add some sort of escape mechanic on shortbow and utility for it to be even remotely competitive.

[ArthurDent.9538]

The entire renegade specialization is the new shatterstone: absolutely worthless at release then recieves buffs patch after patch for months on end yet will never reach a state where it is really worth using.

[allias.1420]

@ArthurDent.9538 said:The entire renegade specialization is the new shatterstone: absolutely worthless at release then recieves buffs patch after patch for months on end yet will never reach a state where it is really worth using.

I believe there is no specialization in this game that is worse than renefailgade

[Xca.9721]

It needs a whole rework, but anet cares more about mesmer and deadeye (which have both been far better than renegade already before)

[Arkantos.7460]

not viable even after pathing casttimes(which is better now) in pvp

[otto.5684]

@allias.1420 said:

@ArthurDent.9538 said:The entire renegade specialization is the new shatterstone: absolutely worthless at release then recieves buffs patch after patch for months on end yet will never reach a state where it is really worth using.

I believe there is no specialization in this game that is worse than renefailgade

It has no mobility.It lacks sustainability.The utilities are still not sPvP viable.

You are much better served with herald using any build.

[Crab Fear.1624]

An Elite Specialization that is a downgrade. Pay to lose, is that first? Very innovative.

[allias.1420]

@Crab Fear.1624 said:An Elite Specialization that is a downgrade. Pay to lose, is that first? Very innovative.

I heard it was viable for raids though, not sure if that's true. But for pvp? Forget it. It's pay to lose. Heck, not even a 500% dmg increase across all utilities would make this work in a game mode like conquest

[Liewec.2896]

they couldn't even find the sanity to make the spirits untargetable and unattackable,in PVP they are dead the moment you summon them.and the hilarious thing is that they chose to give deadeye a rework! not renegade.

[BeepBoopBap.2840]

Pretend renegade doesn't exist, plz buff herald and core revenant instead.

Revenant and herald are questionably designed but renegade is a special type of bad that you don't try to fix, you cut your loss and work on other things.

[LinhZeri.6412]

Think its the fact in since HoT and introduction of Revenant was actually made to be played on Herald and it hasn't changed since. Sure you can run some random revenant builds with condi or centaur but will you do it for anything else? Heralds is just too good and still basically makes the whole class actually viable if you think that over. Its based on you using Herald and choosing a 1 stance to go with it to choose your single stance with Glint as it sits. I bet ya if you can use Glint with Renegade everyone would enjoy it a little better.. hell maybe im wrong but im sure there wouldnt be problems. Need escape? well sure for this meta but imho if they balanced they should reduce so many escapes from this game and teleports which will never happen lol.

[Brother.1504]

Anet needs to look at gw1 ritualist with inspiration for gw2 renegade.

[JayAction.9056]

They are afraid to buff renegade because there are still like 5 revs that still have most everybody on farm status with it sucking as bad as it does and being about 2 years out dated with repeated nerfs as big as -75% in some cases.

They don’t want top 5 to be 5 renegades, assuming they make it as good as the POF specs.

True story

[Bast.7253]

@JayAction.9056 said:They are afraid to buff renegade because there are still like 5 revs that still have most everybody on farm status with it sucking as bad as it does and being about 2 years out dated with repeated nerfs as big as -75% in some cases.

They don’t want top 5 to be 5 renegades, assuming they make it as good as the POF specs.

True story

Who are these 5 revs that have everybody on farm status? I've seen you post this several times. Just curious. I know one of the people in the top 5 usually plays thief. Not sure about the other 4 currently.

[BeLZedaR.4790]

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[mbp.1693]

Renegade is so bad in pvp, that the only way to save it is that the summons were a mirage, spell breaker and a scourge. And the elite a (one months ago) chrono ;) ;) ;) ;)