kittyfur.6459 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ridic. I see them constantly heal from 20% to 100 in literally no time. 2 toons wailing on it and CANNOT kill. I thought scrapper was bad..this is ABSURD. fix this bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico.6873 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 So buff scrapper? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Buy a good Revenant, Holo or w/e that deals damage/cc chain and wont use important skills while enemy dodges/uses evade skills. Weaver has rotations, sw/d needs water and blasts in order to heal and when it does it doesnt deal damage, just dont spam mindlessly skills and kite.Warrior has neverending FC and Enduring pain + stupid cc chain, Holo damage is bs also cc chains to death and good healing, rev has some stupid teleports and deals massive damage, teef stays in stealth, teleports and can run around map as Usain Bolt, mezmer dodges everything, condi out of nowhere and clone spam, ranger boonspam, 1,5k range and 44k maul damage, FB neverending healing machine with boons, Scourge AoE spam stupid condis. Moom, please fix this bs i want to play a game with sticks and stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 If only there was some sort of viable CC build to lock them down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xervite.5493 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Weaver has far to many ways to avoid damage, evade block invul and teleport too. Along with dumping those aoes and a skill bar (water) dedicated to healing. Yea its busted tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rng.1024 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 The problem is that it's the only nodesustain Weaver has unfortunately, same as Thief. The better option would be to utilize more barrier instead of evasion uptime (which already scales with healing power) so we get defensive (weaver), offensive (scrapper) and support (scourge) applicators.An ele's kit almost always (except sc/f which has a ton of defense) contain atleast 1 evade, so my suggestion would be to move the evade frame from Earthen Vortex to Polaric Leap instead, forcing use of an offensive cooldown if you need it. This can still be comboed with Riptide for a personal heal, and Earthen Vortex could now grant Tectonic Shift in addition to it's current effects.The main issue in my opinion is how they can resustain fully during evade frames leaving little counterplay. To this end I believe Soothing Mist needs a limitation of only lingering after attunement swap if you have Soothing Power Equipped - this would directly lower Weaver's passive sustain while making another unused trait more competitive. Another necessary change is to reduce the duration of Riptide and it's evasion to 1 second, and remove the regen to reduce passive healing over time which compounds with the signet.Lastly I would let Twist of Faith give barrier per spin instead of evade, however allow it to reflect projectiles for it's duration. You can already get stab with it if you have the trait and the superspeed stays. Tougher, not unhittable is what I'm going for. Reduce count recharge to 40 seconds, keep the 5 second limitation per use (perfect since this allows you to chain that barrier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadMed.3846 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 For a change, I actually don't mind some ele opness. At least it doesn't spam Condi blasting clones all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @BadMed.3846 said:For a change, I actually don't mind some ele opness. At least it doesn't spam Condi blasting clones all over the place.I don't mind some clone opness. At least it doesn't spam evades blasting 20 burns all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoX.3124 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ele is fine, really.. it has some dodges, one invu on Earth and some burn stacks. No damages on mid / far distance.Just move a little bit from the cap once he goes to fire, clean some condis and you're fine. They cannot tank two people forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseball C.8395 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 The reason ele full heals from 20% easily is because their health pool, like gaurd, is of the lowest in the game without vitality as classes. To properly fight an ele you need to pay attention to their elemental attunments and kill them after they heal, if they are sword and swap to earth or water you should know they have sword 2 to evade so you shouldn't risk high cooldowns while in fire and or air they have skills you should prob dodge like fire air 3 and fire 2. Also dont wanna waste cds on ele's fire earth lava skin constant barrier because ele gains super value if u dmging their barrier while they dmging your real health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.5148 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 To all eles, run Rune of the Svanir and Signet of Water (don't use) it'll help trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain.1659 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ahh I was waiting for this topic for quite some time. Yes weaver is really powerful, especially when played with condi-heal. I have been seeing many condi weavers and tanky weavers lately, and they are really strong. As an ele player I find it quite powerful. It will be a big problem if the balance stays same. But as someone said, I do not mind some ele opness. After all it requires pushing some buttons, positioning and a really strong fashion sense (4 elements, different colors, hard to balance your outfit). There are still more op / bugged professions(with specific builds) in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Here we go, been waiting to see how long people will cry about the next class and once again it has to be ele. Can't wait to see it nerfed back to utter useless with enough crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Well we can say that the new condi build (sword/focus) is pretty gimmicky ... ppl that are not aware of it will be freelo. But the downside is that it's less sustainy than the mender variant . So it's more reliable on evades than the sustain . You 'll see more evades and less 20% to full healing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider.7849 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This is part of the problem when you guys keep asking for nerfs on classes that didn't need to be nerfed into oblivion: it lets loose the toxic builds they kept in check. Back just before GW2 eSports died, people kept crying for warrior and thief to get nerfed; the result was a heavy bunker meta that made GW2 so boring, it was the last we ever saw of it in eSports. The devs are killing this game enough on their own without you clowns wanting to destroy everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @Xervite.5493 said:Weaver has far to many ways to avoid damage, evade block invul and teleport too. Along with dumping those aoes and a skill bar (water) dedicated to healing. Yea its busted tbh.Everyone had evade, so why even mention that... Plus, what block does weaver build have. Plz tell me one single blockThis is trolling at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @Stallic.2397 said:@Xervite.5493 said:Weaver has far to many ways to avoid damage, evade block invul and teleport too. Along with dumping those aoes and a skill bar (water) dedicated to healing. Yea its busted tbh.Everyone had evade, so why even mention that... Plus, what block does weaver build have. Plz tell me one single blockThis is trolling at its finestThese have to be new players to gw2 or people fresh to the PvP ranks. NO WAY one of the plat forum warriors is saying this. If they are these forums have reached an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALARMORGHULIS.9173 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Fire weaver and Water sages weaver are balanced in my opinion. They are the new ideal side noder with almost no losing matchups. Warrior CAN beat it 1v1, but top tier weavers will out play them in a duel. Additionally— if you play scourge just roll into that 1v1 on bm scourge and it’s a winning matchup. However you might die if the weaver is runing S/D water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiral.8915 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @VALARMORGHULIS.9173 said:Fire weaver and Water sages weaver are balanced in my opinion. They are the new ideal side noder with almost no losing matchups. Warrior CAN beat it 1v1, but top tier weavers will out play them in a duel. Additionally— if you play scourge just roll into that 1v1 on bm scourge and it’s a winning matchup. However you might die if the weaver is runing S/D water. Balanced yet no losing matchups. Sounds legit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YTKafka.4681 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @Stallic.2397 said:@Xervite.5493 said:Weaver has far to many ways to avoid damage, evade block invul and teleport too. Along with dumping those aoes and a skill bar (water) dedicated to healing. Yea its busted tbh.Everyone had evade, so why even mention that... Plus, what block does weaver build have. Plz tell me one single blockThis is trolling at its finestEarth Shield 2. Checkmate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romano.8170 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This.This is a problem w/ this community.Ya'll complain instead of evaluating your own play and what you can do as counterplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 After seeing this, I truly hope PvP dies so these type of players can finally leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer.4362 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @YTKafka.4681 said:@Stallic.2397 said:@Xervite.5493 said:Weaver has far to many ways to avoid damage, evade block invul and teleport too. Along with dumping those aoes and a skill bar (water) dedicated to healing. Yea its busted tbh.Everyone had evade, so why even mention that... Plus, what block does weaver build have. Plz tell me one single blockThis is trolling at its finestEarth Shield 2. Checkmate.no, see better, arcane shield is only block with skill, earth 0 block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconious.2751 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 A class that has to spec into vitality and healing power to be viable has good sustain? This is a shocker, i tell you. Truly shocking.Mender weaver has good sustain but very little damage. Twist of fate is usually its only stun break. Bait those then cc the weaver and they pretty much melt. Boon corruption or strip is also quite useful against weavers since they often take arcane for boons when swapping. Of players of equal skill level a mender weaver prob will be able to sustain a 1v1 forever while also not being able to kill the opponent. 2v1 the weaver will die if they dont kite off the point.Fire weaver is quite bursty and nasty but it stacks only 1 condi (burning) and their brust is predictable allowing it to be mitigated. Fire weavers stack alot of burns through mostly two utilities glyph of elemental power and primodial stance. Glyph is shown on their buff bar and only affects the next 5 attacks unlike every other classes +25% damage utilities which are time based. Auto attacks count too. Primodial stance is an aoe pulse what is centered on the weaver. It makes a very distinct sound. When you see this kite the weaver for 5s then resume the attack. Another ability they use to stack burns is lava skin which is a dual attunement fire/earth. It behaves like primordial stance and is countered by kitting as well.You can prob face tank a fire weaver if you have enough condi cleanse. Since most of their damage is in condis. Fire weaver sacrifaces a bunch of sustain for its condi burts once its burst is played they will melt.Weavers arent your typical ele where it is just a free kill. Its abilities and utilities have plenty of obvious visual and sound cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiral.8915 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 You weavers sound like mesmers defending their OP'ness. Just accept your nerf and it'll all go much smoother LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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