Reaper AFK farming is allowed I think

[Syrus.2174]

Hm...if my calculation wasn't totally off somewhere, afk farming seems to at least generate more theoretical profit than bitcoin mining, going by kw/h and money to gems to gold prices.Just need to get around 2.1 gold per hour and you break even, investing the same money into power consumption that you would pay when getting gold via gems, at least with a price of 0.30€/kW/h² and a computer that runs at 350W/h³, which can obviously be "optimized" using equipment with lower power consumption.

I'd not recommend it as a way for "printing money" though, for obvious reasons.

• going by gw2efficiency.com (1€ = 19g 86s 40s at the time)² price is probably lower³ my computer's average power consumption, including two screens

Just thought it funny that farming in a game is more profitable than wasting our planet's limited resources on "mining" bitcoins for some speculative theoretical "wealth"..

[Blocki.4931]

@Hashberry.4510 said:This community even loves its bots.

It's a victimless crime, so there is no reason to hate the perpetrator. Everybody can do whatever they want. If it pleases them to afk farm somewhere they are allowed to. If they do it for long periods of time apparently they are active enough to pass a GMs teleport and chat check, so what gives.

[Zaklex.6308]

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@BadHealer.3608 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases.Yes, you can set one skill at autoattack (CTRL+Mouse2). I'm doing this for 7 years. What is wrong with that? Should I banded for live for abusing?

This is not how it works, think again.

@Teratus.2859 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

I like Minions and use them often so that's mostly why it bothers me.I fear one day they will be changed because of AFK players abusing them and will end up completely killing their use and appeal.

One bad change can ruin a skill type for me, the last big change to Ranger spirits is one such example.Used them for many years until the last change.. now i've removed them from every single one of my builds because they're garbage now.Don't want to see Minions suffer something similar.

If ANet would punish such afk farming behaviour with time bans or perma bans nobody would do it anymore and no changes are needed. Doing nothing for a long time just accumulates the frustration of the people to the point where they need to do something about it to prevent riots and (again like in many other cases) tempt to overreact with nerfs etc.

And again to everyone else who just sad "ignore it": Why should we? Not doing anything against it is in my understanding the same like allowing it and for freaks sake i'm not going to allow anyone to abuse something to get an unfair advantage of. Earn it like everyone else!

You keep stating these people are getting an unfair advantage...just exactly what unfair advantage do they get sitting there for 14 hours killing the same mob over and over again...and you have to participate to get rewards from events, you can't get them by doing nothing, even if it's killing only one creature, you've still participated.

[Kisakee.3587]

@Zaklex.6308 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@BadHealer.3608 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases.Yes, you can set one skill at autoattack (CTRL+Mouse2). I'm doing this for 7 years. What is wrong with that? Should I banded for live for abusing?

This is not how it works, think again.

@Teratus.2859 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

I like Minions and use them often so that's mostly why it bothers me.I fear one day they will be changed because of AFK players abusing them and will end up completely killing their use and appeal.

One bad change can ruin a skill type for me, the last big change to Ranger spirits is one such example.Used them for many years until the last change.. now i've removed them from every single one of my builds because they're garbage now.Don't want to see Minions suffer something similar.

If ANet would punish such afk farming behaviour with time bans or perma bans nobody would do it anymore and no changes are needed. Doing nothing for a long time just accumulates the frustration of the people to the point where they need to do something about it to prevent riots and (again like in many other cases) tempt to overreact with nerfs etc.

And again to everyone else who just sad "ignore it": Why should we? Not doing anything against it is in my understanding the same like allowing it and for freaks sake i'm not going to allow anyone to abuse something to get an unfair advantage of. Earn it like everyone else!

You keep stating these people are getting an unfair advantage...just exactly what unfair advantage do they get sitting there for 14 hours killing the same mob over and over again...and you have to participate to get rewards from events, you can't get them by doing nothing, even if it's killing only one creature, you've still participated.

Regular loot, magic, karma, XP / spirit shards, all of that for literally doing nothing. And of course they placed themself on a spot where they can get as many mobs as possible.Interestingly enough that people just don't care because they don't get harmed, i wonder what would happen if this behaviour would put you in an actual disadvantage.

[Vinceman.4572]

@Kisakee.3587 said:

Regular loot, magic, karma, XP / spirit shards, all of that for literally doing nothing. And of course they placed themself on a spot where they can get as many mobs as possible.

It was already told to you that there is DR (diminishing return) for loot. Just place yourself there and try it out. I did it today. It's not worth it and in terms of karma, XP/spirit shards the output is so underwhelming because you gain so much more by doing everything else in this game except idling in Lions Arch or elsewhere.

Interestingly enough that people just don't care because they don't get harmed, i wonder what would happen if this behaviour would put you in an actual disadvantage.

Because then it would be a real issue and we would see actions from Arenanet.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

What loot at Diminishing Returns? What magic at DR? What meager XP? And the few Spirit Shards are worthless to someone that only AFK farms.

Again, and again: Report (use the Botting option as repeatedly stated by Devs and the CS Team) and move on.

[Sugar Min.5834]

About getting rewards and loots by just being there and did little or nothing... i believe this is what is happenning during TM hunt in HoT maps.

When i called out in map chat, a few players usually appear but half of them just did one or two hit on the mushroom boss and then moved to a nearby spot and watched while the rest of us do the killing.

Since i can solo and kill TM by myself, I stopped calling out. It just took a little more time to kill it and so be it shrug

[Brycar.2651]

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@Zaklex.6308 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@BadHealer.3608 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases.Yes, you can set one skill at autoattack (CTRL+Mouse2). I'm doing this for 7 years. What is wrong with that? Should I banded for live for abusing?

This is not how it works, think again.

@Teratus.2859 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

I like Minions and use them often so that's mostly why it bothers me.I fear one day they will be changed because of AFK players abusing them and will end up completely killing their use and appeal.

One bad change can ruin a skill type for me, the last big change to Ranger spirits is one such example.Used them for many years until the last change.. now i've removed them from every single one of my builds because they're garbage now.Don't want to see Minions suffer something similar.

If ANet would punish such afk farming behaviour with time bans or perma bans nobody would do it anymore and no changes are needed. Doing nothing for a long time just accumulates the frustration of the people to the point where they need to do something about it to prevent riots and (again like in many other cases) tempt to overreact with nerfs etc.

And again to everyone else who just sad "ignore it": Why should we? Not doing anything against it is in my understanding the same like allowing it and for freaks sake i'm not going to allow anyone to abuse something to get an unfair advantage of. Earn it like everyone else!

You keep stating these people are getting an unfair advantage...just exactly what unfair advantage do they get sitting there for 14 hours killing the same mob over and over again...and you have to participate to get rewards from events, you can't get them by doing nothing, even if it's killing only one creature, you've still participated.

Regular loot, magic, karma, XP / spirit shards, all of that for literally doing nothing. And of course they placed themself on a spot where they can get as many mobs as possible.Interestingly enough that people just don't care because they don't get harmed, i wonder what would happen if this behaviour would put you in an actual disadvantage.

Right, if it harmed anyone that would be totally different. But it doesn’t harm other players at all. So, it is a non issue. Nothing burger.

[Kisakee.3587]

It doesn't matter how much or how little you get from it, it's the process itself. And it's a pure case of double standards if you only take action if it actually harms you but just ignore it otherwise. I'm not the one who's giving moral away just because it doesn't affects me. You can do this if you like but in therms of justice and egality that's not my road.

[Vinceman.4572]

The process of hitting one mob during an event, stay afk for the rest and get rewards for it has to be changed then. And that would be way more important because almost all events are rewarding, at least more than afk-farming. So, if you see an issue there we need to set the priority there first and it would be totally fine for me to stop those farmers with appropriate measure afterwards as well.But I'm sure it's not about that at all, it's an unimportant, personal thing and therefore we don't have to change anything.

[Cranky wo Coffee.5914]

@Selient.6018 said:This is the 3rd thread you have started on the same topic(or maybe the 6th). Please just report as bots and move on. No one likes bots, we just have a realistic view of the situation. There are major updates being released with so many broken and bugged parts... clearly, Anet doesn't have time or resources to make everyone happy.

[VIKDOOMX.2486]

Who cares, game is dead anyway

[Dante.1508]

People seem to worry about the smallest stuff, why not just enjoy your game and let Anet deal with them, or not deal with them.. Its their game if they allow such silly mechanics its really on them.

[kratan.4619]

@Selient.6018 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@Randulf.7614 said:How do u know they are running a script and not just pressing one button in the keyboard every half hour

Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases. And i just did the test and took a look at one spot over one day, after 14 hours the exact same player still stood there. I don't have to tell you that it is very unlikely that someone is standing at the same spot for 14 hours and presses the auto attack key every 10 seconds, right?

And before you start arguing: It's the same with everyone there. Go take a look by yourself if you don't believe us.In fact i started luring strong enemies to them to watch them die and sometimes it works.

You got the point!!

It's not against the rule if they really not afk, buthow do you play gw2 10+ hours at same spot?Really?

There is no answer for it,Devs just ignore this problem since release,GMs jsut tell you to report in game and reply like NPC.

I do this all the time, especially if it is football season, I watch the games and just randomly throw down a well or something on my necro.

[Selient.6018]

Still no one here can answer how these playerauto cast skill like "Nothing Can Save You" https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Nothing_Can_Save_You!%22for 10+ hours WITHOUT BANNED?how do you sit there as human press keyboard everyday like that?no one can explain, and stop say "report and move on",cuz reporting is useless like my last post.

Some comments like "you can autocast using ctrl+mouse" or "some skills are autocastable",you better stop doing this cuz you know nothing about these afkers,go somewhere else like reddit, not here please

[tatte.5389]

Reporting is useless? These threads are useless.

Take a deep breath, relax, and explain what you are expecting from this spam of yours? You're clearly not listening to anyone. Your part in this ends once you have reported them. It is not your purpose in life to pursue something like this, I hope you take that in and find something better to do.

Or. Please take this spam to Reddit yourself, see what they think about your tirade. (Community there is strongly against even simple multi-boxing, but I doubt they'll humour your fixation for long.)

"Reporting is useless because it doesn't give the result I want!!" Please. Seriously learn to move on. If you think GMs are incompetent, take it up with support.

[Linken.6345]

@"Selient.6018" said:Still no one here can answer how these playerauto cast skill like "Nothing Can Save You" https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Nothing_Can_Save_You!%22for 10+ hours WITHOUT BANNED?how do you sit there as human press keyboard everyday like that?no one can explain, and stop say "report and move on",cuz reporting is useless like my last post.

Some comments like "you can autocast using ctrl+mouse" or "some skills are autocastable",you better stop doing this cuz you know nothing about these afkers,go somewhere else like reddit, not here please

Easy to auto cast nothing can save you1 ctrl right click to make it the auto attack2 stand were mobs engage you in combat and it will fire off cooldown all the time.EditThought you had to only do step1 before but looks like mobs have to actually engage so you get into combat hence step 2.

[Strider Pj.2193]

Just give retal to all mobs.

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