Pyre gloves and horns. Zero logic behind?

[frareanselm.1925]

Rererring to the gemstore items Pyre Gloves and Horns, made me interested to investigate who was Pyre.

From Guild Wars 1 Pyre was a ranger that held a longbow, and had a conflict with flame legion Shamans blablabla.

The thing is Pyre was a ranger. And his second name is "Fierceshot". Everywhere is depicted wearing a medium (leather) armor.

 

Why these gloves and horns filled with shiny fire effects look like from a Flame Legion Shaman, instead of the gloves and horns of a ranger?

Can somebody explain me this?

[Blocki.4931]

Pyre is an English word. Those things they used to burn Witches on. You can use it in the context of fire/flame and burning.

[Linken.6345]

39 minutes ago, frareanselm.1925 said:

Rererring to the gemstore items Pyre Gloves and Horns, made me interested to investigate who was Pyre.

From Guild Wars 1 Pyre was a ranger that held a longbow, and had a conflict with flame legion Shamans blablabla.

The thing is Pyre was a ranger. And his second name is "Fierceshot". Everywhere is depicted wearing a medium (leather) armor.

 

Why these gloves and horns filled with shiny fire effects look like from a Flame Legion Shaman, instead of the gloves and horns of a ranger?

Can somebody explain me this?

Trophies from his kills?

[Chaba.5410]

I don't think the name has anything to do with the GW1 character.

[SkyCake.4216]

Edit: Never mind, was just an unnecessary joke. 

Edited June 26, 2021 by SkyCakeLight.3750

[Zephire.8049]

The word pyre has origins in both Latin and Greek (pyra and pyr respectively) and essentially mean fire (pyra actually means bonfire rather than generic fire, but for this it's the fire part that's important). "Pyre gloves" sounds a lot more fancy fantasy than "Fire gloves".

 

Also you're being way too literal about charr names, especially ones that originated during a time where one legion was oppressing and enslaving the others as a good way to get in with your oppressors is to name a cub after an individual or something your oppressors value to "prove" your loyalty. Plus charr are sometimes inspired by a cub's coat colour and it's easy to see why Pyre's dam thought of fire when she saw his coat.

 

Most likely someone was just flipping through a name book or dictionary and landed on Pyre (other Fierce warband members include Swift, Roan, Cowl, and Seer so not exactly "inspired") but there is lore reason behind the name as well if you prefer that.

[frareanselm.1925]

1 hour ago, Zephire.8049 said:

The word pyre has origins in both Latin and Greek (pyra and pyr respectively) and essentially mean fire (pyra actually means bonfire rather than generic fire, but for this it's the fire part that's important). "Pyre gloves" sounds a lot more fancy fantasy than "Fire gloves".

 

Also you're being way too literal about charr names, especially ones that originated during a time where one legion was oppressing and enslaving the others as a good way to get in with your oppressors is to name a cub after an individual or something your oppressors value to "prove" your loyalty. Plus charr are sometimes inspired by a cub's coat colour and it's easy to see why Pyre's dam thought of fire when she saw his coat.

 

Most likely someone was just flipping through a name book or dictionary and landed on Pyre (other Fierce warband members include Swift, Roan, Cowl, and Seer so not exactly "inspired") but there is lore reason behind the name as well if you prefer that.

Because we had Braham's weapons, Marjory and Kasmeer weapons, even Eir's weapons I thought the gloves and horns were relative to a character of the GW story... The name they put can create this confusion.

Edited June 26, 2021 by frareanselm.1925

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

All those are Guild Wars 2 characters.

Pyre Fierceshot is not. 

 

Though, there are some items that refer to Guild Wars characters, I'm not sure this is one.

[Sobx.1758]

55 minutes ago, frareanselm.1925 said:

Because we had Braham's weapons, Marjory and Kasmeer weapons, even Eir's weapons I thought the gloves and horns were relative to a character of the GW story... The name they put can create this confusion.

This is gw2. Braham, Marjory, Kasmeer and even Eir are in gw2 story.

[Astralporing.1957]

57 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

This is gw2. Braham, Marjory, Kasmeer and even Eir are in gw2 story.

We also had Eve's outfit, and Gwen's Attire, so mistakenly thinking those things had somthing to do with Pyre Fierceshot was not completely unjustified.

[Sobx.1758]

16 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

We also had Eve's outfit, and Gwen's Attire, so mistakenly thinking those things had somthing to do with Pyre Fierceshot was not completely unjustified.

Yeah, full outfits named with actual names of the characters they clearly visually copy are totally the same as separate fiery parts of wardrobe named "pyre", which is its own -coincidentally also "fiery"- word, that thematically have nothing to do with gw1 characer 🙄

 

 

Edited June 26, 2021 by Sobx.1758

[Astralporing.1957]

13 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

Yeah, full outfits named with actual names of the characters they clearly visually copy are totally the same as separate fiery parts of wardrobe named "pyre", which is its own -coincidentally also "fiery"- word, that thematically have nothing to do with gw1 characer 🙄

 

 

While the word "Pyre" may have a meaning of "fiery", it just so happens to also be an actual name of a GW1 character.

 

So, again, we have both full outfits and speficic items that are modeled after certain GW characters. We have items modeled after bth GW2 and gw1 cheracters. The word "Pyre", happens to be a name of GW1 character. As such, it's not completely unjustified for someone seeing the horns to mistakenly assume they may be a callout to Pyre Fierceshot (especially seeing as Pyre was a charr, so actually had horns). Even if the item in question doesn;t actually have anything to do with GW history and is just a random fire-themed object.

[Sobx.1758]

12 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

While the word "Pyre" may have a meaning of "fiery", it just so happens to also be an actual name of a GW1 character.

 

So, again, we have both full outfits and speficic items that are modeled after certain GW characters. We have items modeled after bth GW2 and gw1 cheracters. The word "Pyre", happens to be a name of GW1 character. As such, it's not completely unjustified for someone seeing the horns to mistakenly assume they may be a callout to Pyre Fierceshot (especially seeing as Pyre was a charr, so actually had horns). Even if the item in question doesn;t actually have anything to do with GW history and is just a random fire-themed object.

That's not anything I didn't know, but it clearly has nothing to do with that character AND isn't a regular name, but instead is a word that thematically matches the items in question.

 

So, again, full outfits named with actual names of the characters they clearly visually copy are totally the same as separate fiery parts of wardrobe named "pyre", which is its own -coincidentally also "fiery"- word, that thematically have nothing to do with gw1 characer 🙄

It was also released long, LONG after pyre gloves, which OP is aware of and also clearly had nothing to do with gw1 character, but instead thematically "everything to do" with an actual meaning of fiery word "pyre".

Edited June 27, 2021 by Sobx.1758

[Obtena.7952]

Who cares what it's called 🙄

[Khisanth.2948]

Pyre dye also looks nothing like Pyre 😉

[Linken.6345]

5 hours ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

Pyre dye also looks nothing like Pyre 😉

It would have to be a limited edition pretty sure you cant do alot of dye out of a charr.

[Ardenwolfe.8590]

For those confused, here's the reference: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Pyre_Fierceshot

 

No, the item name is in reference to a heap of combustible material, especially one for burning a corpse as part of a funeral ceremony. It's another way to say fire or burning, as far as the items.

 

Don't read too much into it.

[lezbefriends.7516]

It's Pyre gloves, not Pyre's gloves.

[frareanselm.1925]

3 hours ago, Mortifera.6138 said:

It's Pyre gloves, not Pyre's gloves.

I'm spanish. In spanish the name is Guantes de Pyre. And in french is Gants de Pyre.

De means that the object belongs to Pyre, and have the same meaning of the 's in english. Maybe the translation team is mistaken.

 

Edited June 27, 2021 by frareanselm.1925

[kharmin.7683]

I recall translating French de meaning "of" not necessarily showing ownership.  Thus gauntlets of fire, which is how they seem to me.   /shrug

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

For Spanish, either it is referring to a proper noun, Pyre, or the Localization Team should have used 'piro' for pyre.

[frareanselm.1925]

21 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said:

I recall translating French de meaning "of" not necessarily showing ownership.  Thus gauntlets of fire, which is how they seem to me.   /shrug

Gauntlets of fire rigth, but are called Gauntlets of Fire. 

[sasya neko.1985]

20 hours ago, Chaba.5410 said:

I don't think the name has anything to do with the GW1 character.

just like everything else in GW2, sadly.

[Ardenwolfe.8590]

10 hours ago, frareanselm.1925 said:

I'm spanish. In spanish the name is Guantes de Pyre. And in french is Gants de Pyre.

De means that the object belongs to Pyre, and have the same meaning of the 's in english. Maybe the translation team is mistaken.

 

Oh, that's interesting. I can see where the confusion can come from. Thank you for the clarification.