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Queen bee aura stacking

Timelord.8190Timelord.8190 Member ✭✭
edited April 16, 2018 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

Funny how Anet removed visual noise with weapon skills, but then added auras. I never had a problem with weapon skill effects. The effects was actually cool looking, and made the game more action-full.

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  • Grogba.6204Grogba.6204 Member ✭✭✭

    There is clearly no problem with this. /s

  • Ardenwolfe.8590Ardenwolfe.8590 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Personally, I want my Mad King fiery book to look the way it does in the preview screen. Why they needed to nerf that is beyond me.

    That said . . . someone stacked two Queen Bee auras? That's a lot of money wasted or lost.

    Cool looking though.

  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭

    I think, in the vid the effec is increased because the player is using a spider tonic. I know that toon and when in human form the effects of the aura are a bit more reasonable. With the Queen Bee infusion the noise is much more a problem than the visual clutter.

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  • Kako.1930Kako.1930 Member ✭✭✭

    Is that Nicholas Cage?

    Not the bees! xD

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  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is obviously not intended, so I hope you made your point as a joke

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  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Erhmm... I need one of that... If u hv a spare one and not sure what to do with it... you can send it to me tyvm 🤝🤝🌈🌈🎉🎉🎮🎮

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  • Just a flesh wound.3589Just a flesh wound.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 17, 2018

    @lokh.2695 said:
    I think, in the vid the effect is increased because the player is using a spider tonic. I know that toon and when in human form the effects of the aura are a bit more reasonable. With the Queen Bee infusion the noise is much more a problem than the visual clutter.

    I have a Queen Bee and checked. The effects from using a spider tonic greatly increases the size of the bees, though not the numbers. Other tonics, the bees are either the same size or smaller than when used on a char.

    Nerfing the spider tonic to match other topics would make a difference, although it would also remove the amusement value of being in a plastic spider form and holding a gigantic weapon/birthday blaster at the same time.

  • Fremtid.3528Fremtid.3528 Member ✭✭✭

    The guy in the video in chat clearly says its from 8 infusions. Man 8 of any infusions is that annoying. Have you ever seen anyone with more than 4 or 5 (I forgot) ghostly infusions? It's a freaking eyesore. Add to that the character in the video was larger from the tonic. Which that embiggening tonic would do just as well. Imagine 8 bee infusions on a norn, with an embiggening tonic. I mean people are gonna be as ridiculous with their money as they want to be the only saving grace is these bee infusions are several thousands of gold each so there's not more people who can do it. But yelling halp! police! is bad for the game, i think.

  • I'll be honest, I have no idea why anyone would want to use the Queen Bee infusion on their characters. The constant buzzing noise on its own would be enough to drive me insane. I've seen players stack this and other auras all on top of each other, to the point where they end up looking like a walking new years fireworks show, but I can't help but scratch my head and wonder why they do it.

    I wouldn't be able to enjoy playing a game with all that visual and audio noise. It would become too bothersome and distracting. It would obstruct both your view and the ambient sounds of the world. Maybe some people think it looks cool and they want to show off and make other players think they're wealthy or something, but to me, when you just stack a ton of particle effects on top of each other, it doesn't look classy, epic or amazing, it looks messy, ugly and very unappealing.

  • Ziooo.8932Ziooo.8932 Member ✭✭✭

    Phospholuminescent and Queen bee should be toned down in therms of effects, the area and the visual noise is waaay bigger than other auras

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  • I don't think there's a problem, mostly because stacking 8 infusions costs, like, 32,000 gold. It is prohibitively expensive to be annoying this way.

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  • @Onex.2590 said:

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:
    I don't think there's a problem, mostly because stacking 8 infusions costs, like, 32,000 gold. It is prohibitively expensive to be annoying this way.

    I take it you don't visit Mistlock Sanctuary on EU. The annoyance exists and they troll regularly. An option to not be harassed would be appreciated and adding this sound effect to the the other mutable nuisance ones is not unreasonable. The visual is less an issue to me, but I'd certainly dial that down if given the option also.

    I've never seen this in Mistlock/NA and I find it hard to believe that the behavior is that different. People have infusions and it probably wouldn't occur to them that the thing that pleases them bothers other people so much.

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  • intox.6347intox.6347 Member ✭✭✭

    Yeah just stop the stacking option. Things like phospho 8x times is also hell to watch, if there will be option to shut this things off ....

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  • I just saw this toon bouncing around Mistlock. People were complaining and they called us poor and jealous and suggested we mute sound effects because we have "autism". :open_mouth: I don't want to mute sound effects! Why should we change settings because of them? Is there no other solution? I find it bothersome also. :confounded:

  • I actually like aura stacking but that is a bit much lol. I loved stacking twilight aura with tonics before the nerf. It was just cool :)

  • Just a flesh wound.3589Just a flesh wound.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2018

    Some stacking isn’t bad. For example my Charr had the Ghostly outfit which I dyed black then used a Poly Undulating black infusion to make it completely black. I then added a Ghostly infusion for blue smoke. For my mounts I used the Halloween set and dyed them black with blue smoke. Both my Charr and my mounts were deep black with white eyes and with blue smoke coming off them. So I wouldn’t want all stacking to be removed although I admit that it can go over the top if people use multiples effects.

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2018

    Oh it's that person... Always at the bank, annoying others. Now I'm kinda glad I also have Royal Terrace, whenever s/he's around, I just go there instead. :/

  • Fremtid.3528Fremtid.3528 Member ✭✭✭

    @Celine.4206 said:
    I just saw this toon bouncing around Mistlock. People were complaining and they called us poor and jealous and suggested we mute sound effects because we have "autism". :open_mouth: I don't want to mute sound effects! Why should we change settings because of them? Is there no other solution? I find it bothersome also. :confounded:

    That's kinda funny actually like....does this person actually listen to themselves? Does being poor in a videogame make your hearing and sight more sensitive? Does being jealous give you autism? Like they know they're trolling there's literally no getting around it, acting the reason you're annoyed is because you can't afford to be that annoying is just more trolling.

    As for aura stacking, i think some aura stacking is good. The deep purple aura from double quip is lush, I love it and it's the reason I made quip.

  • There are always going to be trolls. Block them from aura stacking and they'll just find some other way to annoy people. (As always: don't feed them. Don't let them know if you're bothered. They almost always go away if they don't get the attention they want.) Consequently, I don't want ANet to limit aura stacking because of trolls.

    However, there are other good reasons to offer more options to reducing visual clutter. So many skills are stunning, there are tells from bosses that we want (or need) to see, fields we want to combo on... and all of that is hidden by too many legendaries, gem shop, infusions, etc.

    Near as I can tell, though: ANet would like to offer more options, it just turns out to be technically more complicated than it looks from our end.

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  • SmirkDog.3160SmirkDog.3160 Member ✭✭✭

    But like people have said, seizures are real, and although there's warnings on most games about seizures, most games are generally okay in terms of risk. My partner gets seizures and he has no problem playing GW2 normally, but the aura stacking hurts his eyes and gives him migraines. It makes sense for games to be flashy sometimes, but I doubt ANet intended for certain things to be deliberately seizure inducing without an option to turn it off on the client side.

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  • @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Onex.2590 said:

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:
    I don't think there's a problem, mostly because stacking 8 infusions costs, like, 32,000 gold. It is prohibitively expensive to be annoying this way.

    I take it you don't visit Mistlock Sanctuary on EU. The annoyance exists and they troll regularly. An option to not be harassed would be appreciated and adding this sound effect to the the other mutable nuisance ones is not unreasonable. The visual is less an issue to me, but I'd certainly dial that down if given the option also.

    I've never seen this in Mistlock/NA and I find it hard to believe that the behavior is that different. People have infusions and it probably wouldn't occur to them that the thing that pleases them bothers other people so much.

    Trust me, this person is very aware of the trolling aspect of his/her behavior and enjoys getting under people's skin. Why do I know this? Because this person has no qualms about directly stating so. He/she also often runs around as a Halloween spider, making the character model bigger and therefore the aura effect much more prominent. But it's already highly annoying on their regular character model. Running and jumping around in the Sanctuary doing nothing, mostly concentrated on the bank/TP area, laughing at people complaining about it. This is obviously a troll. And even without sound effects it's a pain, so the option to turn that off doesn't solve the problem.

  • artemis.6781artemis.6781 Member ✭✭✭

    @SmirkDog.3160 said:
    But like people have said, seizures are real, and although there's warnings on most games about seizures, most games are generally okay in terms of risk. My partner gets seizures and he has no problem playing GW2 normally, but the aura stacking hurts his eyes and gives him migraines. It makes sense for games to be flashy sometimes, but I doubt ANet intended for certain things to be deliberately seizure inducing without an option to turn it off on the client side.

    I understand your partner's pain. I too suffer from migraines and sometimes all the "shinies" really become painful. There's some content I literally cannot engage in (like GH & Pala) because of the visuals. I wished we had the option to turn the visuals down a bit.

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Seizures and migraines are real, and nearly every game for 15 years has had the option to "turn off other players effects". I really don't get why Anet won't deal with this.

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  • Vash.2386Vash.2386 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    Actually that would be the perfect solution. Or just right click their name and set as standard model. There are a few people I would do that too.

  • SmirkDog.3160SmirkDog.3160 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    I would love that. And it would at least somewhat counter the players that are like "weh I spent 30,000 gold for all these auras, people should see me!!!!" because we will see them. And then no longer see them.

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  • @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    That's a really intriguing idea.
    I encourage you to post it as a suggestion in its own thread. It might turn out to be completely impractical for ANet to implement (or maybe there would need to be a second block list: one for just whispers and a size-limited one for visual/aural noise). Either way, I think it's deserving of more attention.

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  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    What if I don't dislike that someone? Blocking him only to remove his visual effects seems a bit too drastic to me.

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  • Pifil.5193Pifil.5193 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2018

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    What if I don't dislike that someone? Blocking him only to remove his visual effects seems a bit too drastic to me.

    Really? Blocking someone really isn't that big of a deal, it's like muting someone in an online game. Looking at the screenshot at the top of the thread blocking that guy seems perfectly OK to me... I don't feel like I'd be missing out on much there. YMMV.

    Anyway, you can always unblock them later if you wish. I periodically purge my block list, once I can no longer remember why I blocked them.

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2018

    @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    What if I don't dislike that someone? Blocking him only to remove his visual effects seems a bit too drastic to me.

    Really? Blocking someone really isn't that big of a deal, it's like muting someone in an online game. Looking at the screenshot at the top of the thread blocking that guy seems perfectly OK to me... I don't feel like I'd be missing out on much there. YMMV.

    Anyway, you can always unblock them later if you wish. I periodically purge my block list, once I can no longer remember why I blocked them.

    I suppose it's subjective, on my block list I only add people who kitten me off, I give them a nickname to remember the reason for the future and I never remove them from the list, nor I play any content with them when they appear to be in the same squad of myself.

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  • Fremtid.3528Fremtid.3528 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Wouldn't it be great if blocking someone also blocked their sound and visual "spam" turning them into the standard human model?

    What if I don't dislike that someone? Blocking him only to remove his visual effects seems a bit too drastic to me.

    Really? Blocking someone really isn't that big of a deal, it's like muting someone in an online game. Looking at the screenshot at the top of the thread blocking that guy seems perfectly OK to me... I don't feel like I'd be missing out on much there. YMMV.

    Anyway, you can always unblock them later if you wish. I periodically purge my block list, once I can no longer remember why I blocked them.

    I suppose it's subjective, on my block list I only add people who kitten me off, I give them a nickname to remember the reason for the future and I never remove them from the list, nor I play any content with them when they appear to be in the same squad of myself.

    Same here, the jerks don't stop being jerks just because time has passed and i've long forgotten why they ended up where they did. Which is why when i realized this I started giving them nicknames so I would remember. It's also funny when telling my friends who's on my block list "overly aggressive ho ho tron guy" is one of my friend's favorite nicknames btw.

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  • SmirkDog.3160SmirkDog.3160 Member ✭✭✭

    @Anthony.3207 said:
    Auras exist so people can buy gold.

    And people can still buy gold. No one is saying to take them out, we're saying to have the option to turn off the visual effect in our client so we don't have to see it. There's an option to mute player instruments, but I haven't seen anyone complain about their wasted money because some people can't hear them 'play'.

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