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Getting other characters to the desert

How do you get your other characters to the desert once one has been there in the story? Unlike for HoT, there is no non-story bound path you can use, like running out the back end of the silverwastes, to get characters there. The desert is completely disconnected from the rest of the map, since we skipped over the scavengers causeway and the gate at Ebonhawk is still closed.

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  • Not everyone has the Lily pass. There needs to be a way for people who didn't preorder to get their alts to the desert without needing gemstore items.

  • @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    Not everyone has the Lily pass. There needs to be a way for people who didn't preorder to get their alts to the desert without needing gemstore items.

    Teleport to a fried, while attainable through the gem store is a reward on many of routine tasks in Guild Wars 2, but I agree that there should be a gate of some kind that leads to PoF maps just like for HoT ones.

  • Vladish.3940Vladish.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    Get to 80 and play the story on those characters? Not like there is benefit to getting non-80s there, and the prologue doesn't take long.

  • Corrada.7304Corrada.7304 Member ✭✭
    edited September 23, 2017

    ATM? NO! after ** FIX** sure for HP only ;s

  • @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    It appears you have to do the first story instance to get in without T2F or a Pass. I checked on a level 80, activated the first PoF story in my Hero Panel and got the prompt to go visit Kiel in Lion's Arch. There doesn't seem to be a non-story, non-gizmo way to get there.

    This is precisely the point. Until now there has ALWAYS been some way to get alts to a map, either by walking in or by portal scroll. While I am not a big fan of portal scrolls, that would still be an acceptable compromise method of alts to the desert. Replaying the beginning of the story over and over will rapidly become extremely tedious, and is impractical for some alts who may be in the middle of story and would lose progress if they switch.

  • I'm in the same boat, I've done the story on one of my characters and I don't particularly want to have to do it on the other 35. It may not be long, but after the first few times it would certainly get boring. I was hoping someone near the airship could teleport me in, but apparently not.

    I think the VIP thing in the Deluxe upgrade available on the Gem Store is the same as the Lily of Elon Pass, but I'm not sure, unless they put another option in soon, it looks like I will be having to save up for a lot of Gems and hope.

  • It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

  • @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    It appears you have to do the first story instance to get in without T2F or a Pass. I checked on a level 80, activated the first PoF story in my Hero Panel and got the prompt to go visit Kiel in Lion's Arch. There doesn't seem to be a non-story, non-gizmo way to get there.

    This is precisely the point. Until now there has ALWAYS been some way to get alts to a map, either by walking in or by portal scroll. While I am not a big fan of portal scrolls, that would still be an acceptable compromise method of alts to the desert. Replaying the beginning of the story over and over will rapidly become extremely tedious, and is impractical for some alts who may be in the middle of story and would lose progress if they switch.

    I absolutely agree. I attempted to bypass the first story instance by getting to the first map in the instance and then logging out and back in, but that only returned my char to Lion's Arch. What they need to put in is, after you've done the first story instance you can talk to First Mate Fidos Foecrush and get the option to be ported to that map.

    As a thought, the HoT maps were accessible to alts without the story through portals from the guild halls. It's possible that will also be an option. Maybe your guild can get the Crystal Desert guild halls or you can ask to join someone's guild just to move them all there, then leave.

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  • Only an option for those in guilds who decide to move to the desert. Still not a general solution.

  • Vladish.3940Vladish.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Joining a guild with the new GH should work as well.

  • You don't even need a guild to get to HoT maps. Just walk straight through the portal in SW Silverwastes.

  • Hesacon.8735Hesacon.8735 Member ✭✭✭

    @Khisanth.2948 said:
    Joining a guild with the new GH should work as well.

    This. I skipped VB on most of my toons (hardest to navigate end to end) by exiting the guilded hollow.

  • Drecien.4508Drecien.4508 Member ✭✭✭

    You can start the story and then leave and you should be in the area.

    30 Beautiful new mount skins?! Anet take my money!

  • Boogiepop Void.6473Boogiepop Void.6473 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2017

    @Drecien.4508 said:
    You can start the story and then leave and you should be in the area.

    Nope, dumps you back to Lion's Arch, where the instance starts. Instance aborts always return you to where you entered the instance. That only worked in the demo because the "entry" for the instance was temporarily in Amnoon square.

  • Also, isn't there a gate that lets you in? However, I think that gate requires a letter from that one person/etc.

  • Rognik.2579Rognik.2579 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lunarlife.5128 said:
    Also, isn't there a gate that lets you in? However, I think that gate requires a letter from that one person/etc.

    The Gate in Field of Ruins is not close enough to any of the PoF stuff that you could go through it directly. Perhaps there will be a connector that way in LS4, but currently, the only way is through the story.

  • Vladish.3940Vladish.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    Actually yes. If you can't play them all what's the point of making them other than having too much money :/

  • Ashabhi.1365Ashabhi.1365 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2017

    I understand that you want to get your other characters to the desert without having to do the instance, but keep in mind that the instance is where you get your raptor, and get your first mastery. At least I am not aware of where else you can get a raptor without doing the instance. If you don't get your raptor, you can't get the rest. The raptor is requisite.

    I can't imagine a character in the desert without mounts, but hey, it's your choice. May not seem like much reward from a horribly annoying instance, but once you've done it once or twice, it goes much faster.

  • @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    It appears you have to do the first story instance to get in without T2F or a Pass. I checked on a level 80, activated the first PoF story in my Hero Panel and got the prompt to go visit Kiel in Lion's Arch. There doesn't seem to be a non-story, non-gizmo way to get there.

    It's possible one of the NPCs is selling some sort of portal scroll. I haven't seen it yet, but the maps are vast & I am slow.

    I definitely don't like this kind of gating, especially if the initial story involves a lot of waiting for people to complete their speeches.

    "Face the facts. Then act on them. It's ...the only doctrine I have to offer you, & it's harder than you'd think, because I swear humans seem hardwired to do anything but. Face the facts. Don't pray, don't wish, ...FACE THE FACTS. THEN act." — Quellcrist Falconer

  • Zaltys.7649Zaltys.7649 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2017

    @Ashabhi.1365 said:
    I understand that you want to get your other characters to the desert without having to do the instance, but keep in mind that the instance is where you get your raptor, and get your first mastery.

    Once you get the raptor, all your alts have it automatically. Since it's a mastery, and masteries are account-wide. So that's not a good argument for forcing alts to go through the story.

  • Thelgar.7214Thelgar.7214 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2017

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    Actually yes. If you can't play them all what's the point of making them other than having too much money :/

    Deliberate trolling? I find it hard to believe you can't understand that grinding the exact same extended scene 30 times just to get access to an area isn't "playing" in any sense of the word. Or is it just pettiness?

  • A bit early for this, but you could probably enter through the guild hall in Vabbi. Though, of course, that puts you in Vabbi... but, still in PoF.

  • @Jak.6049 said:
    A bit early for this, but you could probably enter through the guild hall in Vabbi. Though, of course, that puts you in Vabbi... but, still in PoF.

    Right, I was actually planning on capping a GH for a storage guild just to do this. However, that's hardly something that is easily available to everyone, given that it needs 100 gold, a free guild slot (or an accommodating GL), and time to do the events.

    "Face the facts. Then act on them. It's ...the only doctrine I have to offer you, & it's harder than you'd think, because I swear humans seem hardwired to do anything but. Face the facts. Don't pray, don't wish, ...FACE THE FACTS. THEN act." — Quellcrist Falconer

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    @GreyWolf.8670 said:
    You don't even need a guild to get to HoT maps. Just walk straight through the portal in SW Silverwastes.

    Really? I was pretty sure that alts still either had to do the Rally to Maguuma story or use a gizmo. Did that change?

  • @Sarpan.9074 said:

    @GreyWolf.8670 said:
    You don't even need a guild to get to HoT maps. Just walk straight through the portal in SW Silverwastes.

    Really? I was pretty sure that alts still either had to do the Rally to Maguuma story or use a gizmo. Did that change?

    You just need to walk out the back end of the Silverwates. It's a readily accessible map gate.

  • @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    LOL I'd figure if you have 30 (!) lvl 80 alts that you need to get to the oasis, that it's safe to say that you are pretty heavily invested in this game. Heck, maybe it's the only one you play. Why not drop some extra cash on a game you clearly enjoy?

  • elrin.4750elrin.4750 Member ✭✭✭

    There should be a way without doing the prologue. Personally I don't care. POF maps are boring, bland and nothing to do there.

  • bobsort.4097bobsort.4097 Member ✭✭✭

    It is strange, lots of people commented here and agree with it, but there are only 3 thumbs up! As suggested in feedback forum, although anet still might read all forums, if you want your voice heard and agree with it, thumbs up the first post.

    Also I do agree, using guild hall, teleport to friend or even doing story over and over is not a viable option. This is not the first time Anet publishing a new map, they might have known this would happen and players will ask for it, if there is no direct entry point.

  • bobsort.4097bobsort.4097 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    The people who were in hurry, already finished content and nothing would stop or slow them even not even a single story step!
    Just 4 hours after launch, I saw someone using skipper jumped to mastery point in Diviner's reach in desert highland. It means he already had 15 mastery points. these kind of people are only may be 10%~15% top hardcore players.

    And then there are people like me with different playing style and purpose.

  • bobsort.4097bobsort.4097 Member ✭✭✭

    @Drecien.4508 said:
    You can start the story and then leave and you should be in the area.

    Have you tried it?
    Just a flesh wound.3589 a few posts above you, says he tried it and it didn't work

  • bobsort.4097bobsort.4097 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    Actually yes. If you can't play them all what's the point of making them other than having too much money :/

    For economical reasons. who you think is supplying stuff that you buy from TP?

  • edited September 24, 2017

    Rudimentary method but can't you just go to Lion's Arch (or anywhere else), type in chat if anyone has access to PoF, add as a friend and have them go to Amnoon, then use Teleport to Friend?

    Though I believe you will still have to do the Prologue to advance the story.

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Sarpan.9074 said:

    @GreyWolf.8670 said:
    You don't even need a guild to get to HoT maps. Just walk straight through the portal in SW Silverwastes.

    Really? I was pretty sure that alts still either had to do the Rally to Maguuma story or use a gizmo. Did that change?

    You just need to walk out the back end of the Silverwates. It's a readily accessible map gate.

    Wow. Silly me, blindly believing the wiki. I did that first story on all my toons to get into VB. LOL.

  • @Sarpan.9074 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Sarpan.9074 said:

    @GreyWolf.8670 said:
    You don't even need a guild to get to HoT maps. Just walk straight through the portal in SW Silverwastes.

    Really? I was pretty sure that alts still either had to do the Rally to Maguuma story or use a gizmo. Did that change?

    You just need to walk out the back end of the Silverwates. It's a readily accessible map gate.

    Wow. Silly me, blindly believing the wiki. I did that first story on all my toons to get into VB. LOL.

    Wiki for VB says (my emphasis):
    "Getting there[edit]
    From the Silverwastes: the portal to Verdant Brink is in the south-western part of the map. First time access is activated through the Story Journal entry Prologue: Rally to Maguuma."

    But I didn't check edit history, that note can be a later addition.

  • @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:
    But I didn't check edit history, that note can be a later addition.

    That note has been there since a week after HoT launched.

    "Face the facts. Then act on them. It's ...the only doctrine I have to offer you, & it's harder than you'd think, because I swear humans seem hardwired to do anything but. Face the facts. Don't pray, don't wish, ...FACE THE FACTS. THEN act." — Quellcrist Falconer

  • John.8507John.8507 Member ✭✭✭

    Just start the story once your level 80 - you can just skip the other stories.

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:
    But I didn't check edit history, that note can be a later addition.

    That note has been there since a week after HoT launched.

    Welp, me and reading comprehension, I guess. Alas. :)

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    Sorry for multiple posts, but since I can't edit yet...

    I had read the wiki entry as meaning the first time access per character, not account. My mistake.

    And, yeah, I agree with the OP that doing the story over and over is tedious (from experience, heh). I'm glad I have the Lily pass if this is the way it is and stays that way.

  • Vladish.3940Vladish.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    @bobsort.4097 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    Actually yes. If you can't play them all what's the point of making them other than having too much money :/

    For economical reasons. who you think is supplying stuff that you buy from TP?

    I don't use TP.

  • @Vladish.3940 said:
    I don't use TP.

    That's irrelevant. The TP is used by hundreds of thousands of players. While it's your choice to avoid the financial benefits, please don't let it color your view of how the existence of the TP and people who farm/gather on multiple toons affect the gameplay of the rest of the community.

    "Face the facts. Then act on them. It's ...the only doctrine I have to offer you, & it's harder than you'd think, because I swear humans seem hardwired to do anything but. Face the facts. Don't pray, don't wish, ...FACE THE FACTS. THEN act." — Quellcrist Falconer

  • Vladish.3940Vladish.3940 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2017

    @Vladish.3940 said:
    I don't use TP.

    That's irrelevant. The TP is used by hundreds of thousands of players. While it's your choice to avoid the financial benefits, please don't let it color your view of how the existence of the TP and people who farm/gather on multiple toons affect the gameplay of the rest of the community.

    And just as me not using TP is irrelevant... their desire to skip a story part where you are introduced to first mini-boss and create a reason for your character wanting to stop her murdering spree is irrelevant to me. It's an important part of character's developing story and doesn't mean it should be skipped just because you don't feel like playing it.

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:

    @Vladish.3940 said:

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    It should not require gems to get your alts to content you paid real money to access already.

    It doesn't, it's called play the story. It doesn't take long. The game just came out and people seem to be in a hurry to finish all the content on the first day.

    Tell that to someone with 30 or more alts they need to get access. Do you want to play that opening instance for EVERY ONE OF THEM?

    Sorry, but a) 30 characters, what the hell? and b) that's up to you but IF you have 30 chars, then this also means more work.

    That said; yes, it would be nice to have a way to skip this. I am lucky having the Lily of the Elon thingy, but not everyone has that.

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    they could open the gate...kinda ;)

  • I don't like the fact that if a character has left the crystal desert area and gone to (for example) lions arch, the only way to get back is to use a waypoint. They should have made either a world gate or some other way to get there that doesn't require having to waypoint halfway across the gw2 map

  • Zaron.1987Zaron.1987 Member ✭✭✭

    Just finish PoF story with 1 Character after that you can start the collection for the griffon mount which gives you a permament account wide portal scroll to Vaabi. ( You dont have to do the collection or spend 250g just start it for the gizmo porting thingy!)

    So only thing anet want for twinks to enter is that the main finished the story and that more than fair

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spearmarshal's_Plea

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