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Best Swordsman

This is not a typical "what class should I play" or "which class is best" poll. I'm wondering what class thematically strikes you as the most authentic swordsman, whether it be by arcane means or by raw physical talent.

Best Swordsman 169 votes

Warrior
20%
Red Haired Savage.5430Krispera.5087DKShang.8792Arzurag.7506BadSanta.6527Silmariena.6205Robban.1256AllNightPlayer.1286TheBravery.9615Oglaf.1074Amaranthe.3578InsaneQR.7412SJWhat.9237ParanoidKami.2867Xuazinegueri.3592Biguyshrooms.2051Interpretor.3091Blocki.4931Lametoile.7394RedShark.9548 35 votes
Guardian
7%
TakeCare.3182Zanjii.8214Kako.1930Esquilax.3491Chaith.8256Opopanax.1803Fipmip.7219Coolguy.8702jan.7915Trehorn.2760xDutchshadow.4763SingleDoubt.6047 12 votes
Mesmer
20%
Autumn.8043Mirdave.2014Khailyn.6248Mini Crinny.6190calb.3128Zaraki.5784spiritualabyss.7016Lily.1935Glaidan.4653mrauls.6519RabbitUp.8294EnchantixAqua.5327otto.5684Kondor.2904blindrage.6158Valenzhul.9582The Spiral King.2483Phasendrache.1320NaturallyNick.4058Kiporion.8642 34 votes
Thief
7%
Solori.6025TwiceDead.1963MrForz.1953Xykris.6758welns.3245sokeenoppa.5384Whitworth.7259Vornollo.5182CallumSmith.8035Warkind.6745James.9071Safandula.8723King Nutella.4570 13 votes
Necromancer (Reaper exclusively)
1%
Linebreaker.7904Okami Amaterasu.9237 2 votes
Revanent
22%
Zephyria.6103Ertrak.9506Undo.5091LuckyThirteen.4576Buran.3796LucianTheAngelic.7054phokus.8934Raknar.4735ArthurDent.9538Blood Red Arachnid.2493Eros.6801ZeftheWicked.3076Exalted Quality.8534Akiro.3952Seteruss.4058NICENIKESHOE.7128Milan.9035AstralDusk.1670Kronos.2560aimz.6287 38 votes
Engineer (Holosmith exclusively)
3%
Laughing Bat.1570Kumouta.4985Boothy.6975Harry.7064Kage.2389Depths.4051 6 votes
Ranger
7%
Mara.6782Stand The Wall.6987PurebladeProductions.4875Sylent.3165Westenev.5289Herdum.3194Leinhart.2981coro.3176Iozeph.5617miguelfermi.3792Crystal Paladin.3871Fenella.2634 12 votes
Elementalist (Weaver exclusively)
10%
Fenom.9457Arimas.3492lLobo.7960Altion.9576Conqueror.3682Imperadordf.2687fuzzyp.6295Pwent.2639lordbachus.6091Joraan Adenard.2061kornfanxxx.9143Mongk.2467kreven.6017Lucidity.5947Skennes.3604Aquatic Werewolf.8375Mizube.9047 17 votes

Comments

  • starlinvf.1358starlinvf.1358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    what kind of swords man? swashbuclker? master at arms? hits thing until its dead?

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Warrior

    Warrior for obvious reasons. Don’t have to resort to “cheap tricks” (like enhancing the blade with magic).

    Just raw, unbridled swordsmanship.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • TanksK.4795TanksK.4795 Member ✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    Swordsmen. Not really sure who’s best. Warrior is indeed the best...in theory. But is guardian really worse? Is Templar’s sword skill under than a veteran soldier? Thief, revenant, mesmer, reaper, weaver, they are masters swordmen in their own way. I only choose Mesmer because I like their sword style.

  • iKeostuKen.2738iKeostuKen.2738 Member ✭✭✭

    Ranger. So nimble.

  • ArthurDent.9538ArthurDent.9538 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Revanent

    Revenant because unrelenting assault animation is epic. Rest of the kit is cool too.

  • Lily.1935Lily.1935 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    Swords were used more frequently as a side arm. Since armored combat the soldiers would prefer a weapon that could crack armor, like a mace or warhammer. So to put it simply, a sword would be more commonly used with unarmored people. Although there are Sword techniques that can be used against armored foes, such as half swording or the murder stroke. But for its expressed purpose of cutting and stabbing the class I feel would fit that tight quarters city fighting would be mesmer. Misdirection and controlling the field in order to prevent death against an Armored foe. At least Mesmer would be my opinion.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Warrior

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Lily.1935 said:
    Swords were used more frequently as a side arm. Since armored combat the soldiers would prefer a weapon that could crack armor, like a mace or warhammer. So to put it simply, a sword would be more commonly used with unarmored people. Although there are Sword techniques that can be used against armored foes, such as half swording or the murder stroke. But for its expressed purpose of cutting and stabbing the class I feel would fit that tight quarters city fighting would be mesmer. Misdirection and controlling the field in order to prevent death against an Armored foe. At least Mesmer would be my opinion.

    That would depend heavily on the time period but yeah, that would be almost accurate if we're thinking of the classic mid to late medieval period. In the early medieval period(11th to 13th century approximately) swords were one of the main weapons along with spears, shields and axes.

    "Cracking" armor is not a thing. At best you could hope to dent or puncture it with the mentioned weapons among others. Blunt force goes through armor, so even if you only dent the armor, you can still do heavy internal damage to the person under the armor. Plate armor is not made of hard cast iron which breaks like your average door handle would, it's made of hardened spring steel that has some flexibility to it for the very reason mentioned, cracking or breaking. Extreme hardness is an unwanted quality in armor because hardness is relative to brittleness. Extreme example of hardness is glass, and cast iron has many of the same properties as glass.

    Mace and warhammer were mainly cavalry weapons btw, your average infantryman would probably rather have a pike, a billhook or a halberd as a primary weapon, and indeed a sword as a sidearm, which mostly came down to how easy it is to carry. Heavily armored infantry or dismounted knights in full plate would also probably use a halberd or a poleaxe primarily but mace, warhammer, battleaxe or even a falchion paired with a shield were certainly options depending on what type of armor/weaponry you are facing. Mail armor/coat-of-arms were still fairly prevalent even in that period.

    On the topic, a big factor to consider was the classes that can wield 2 swords simultaneously, because if you've ever tried dualwielding you know it's bloody hard. So it came down to warrior, mesmer or revenant. I just think Revenant has the coolest sword skills, hence why I chose it.

    funny enough that the revs big hitting skills arent touching the opponent with the actual swords, those only hit with his mistpowers

  • Salshazar.7023Salshazar.7023 Member ✭✭
    edited August 3, 2018
    Warrior

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Lily.1935 said:
    Swords were used more frequently as a side arm. Since armored combat the soldiers would prefer a weapon that could crack armor, like a mace or warhammer. So to put it simply, a sword would be more commonly used with unarmored people. Although there are Sword techniques that can be used against armored foes, such as half swording or the murder stroke. But for its expressed purpose of cutting and stabbing the class I feel would fit that tight quarters city fighting would be mesmer. Misdirection and controlling the field in order to prevent death against an Armored foe. At least Mesmer would be my opinion.

    That would depend heavily on the time period but yeah, that would be almost accurate if we're thinking of the classic mid to late medieval period. In the early medieval period(11th to 13th century approximately) swords were one of the main weapons along with spears, shields and axes.

    "Cracking" armor is not a thing. At best you could hope to dent or puncture it with the mentioned weapons among others. Blunt force goes through armor, so even if you only dent the armor, you can still do heavy internal damage to the person under the armor. Plate armor is not made of hard cast iron which breaks like your average door handle would, it's made of hardened spring steel that has some flexibility to it for the very reason mentioned, cracking or breaking. Extreme hardness is an unwanted quality in armor because hardness is relative to brittleness. Extreme example of hardness is glass, and cast iron has many of the same properties as glass.

    Mace and warhammer were mainly cavalry weapons btw, your average infantryman would probably rather have a pike, a billhook or a halberd as a primary weapon, and indeed a sword as a sidearm, which mostly came down to how easy it is to carry. Heavily armored infantry or dismounted knights in full plate would also probably use a halberd or a poleaxe primarily but mace, warhammer, battleaxe or even a falchion paired with a shield were certainly options depending on what type of armor/weaponry you are facing. Mail armor/coat-of-arms were still fairly prevalent even in that period.

    On the topic, a big factor to consider was the classes that can wield 2 swords simultaneously, because if you've ever tried dualwielding you know it's bloody hard. So it came down to warrior, mesmer or revenant. I just think Revenant has the coolest sword skills, hence why I chose it.

    Hey, if all else fails, you can just unscrew the pommel and end him rightly. :P

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Revanent

    @Salshazar.7023 said:
    Hey, if all else fails, you can just unscrew the pommel and end him rightly. :P

    Been watching Skallagrim, have we? :wink:

  • Warrior

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Salshazar.7023 said:
    Hey, if all else fails, you can just unscrew the pommel and end him rightly. :P

    Been watching Skallagrim, have we? :wink:

    Subscribed to him, actually :wink:

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Revanent

    @Salshazar.7023 said:

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Salshazar.7023 said:
    Hey, if all else fails, you can just unscrew the pommel and end him rightly. :P

    Been watching Skallagrim, have we? :wink:

    Subscribed to him, actually :wink:

    Same here.

  • Lametoile.7394Lametoile.7394 Member ✭✭✭
    Warrior

    Warrior. No magic tricks, just pure mastery. He's the master of arms, hence the best swordman. Got thrust, slash, parry and counter,...just the technical moves, not some fancy spell (though i really like the sword skills of the revenant, which I wold put second.)

    It's nice to see comments from people who know well about weapons btw :)

    MURDER STROKE!

  • Warrior

    There is also a strong emphasis on bleeding with the sword on the warrior, which is a major part of what swords in real life are about.
    Of course, there are different blades and different styles; some are meant to puncture, others made to cut off limbs, but they all have in common that the recipient of a well executed sword stroke will have an injury that will bleed. Hit an artery and you do not need to cut much more.

  • Kako.1930Kako.1930 Member ✭✭✭
    Guardian

    Oh wow, not many people thought it was guardian lol. I guess I was thinking of the classic knight/valiant swordsman, in which case I think guardian fits the best. Both the greatsword and one handed sword fit it really well, and it performs great with both. :)

  • Scar.1793Scar.1793 Member ✭✭✭
    Revanent

    Mesmer is just cheesy stuff. Their flurry animation comes from warrior sword burst skill animation.
    With Revs even if they are far from op as mesmer the skills on swords feel really good and interesting to manage and play with. Unrelenting Assault animation is kitten too if you time a jump correctly with the animation.

  • Vornollo.5182Vornollo.5182 Member ✭✭✭
    Thief

    Thief. Especially pre-HoT when S/D (2/0/0/6/5 ) ruled supreme... Watching Sizer... Pure gold.

    [PUSH] Constant Pressure

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Warrior

    @Scar.1793 said:
    Mesmer is just cheesy stuff. Their flurry animation comes from warrior sword burst skill animation.
    With Revs even if they are far from op as mesmer the skills on swords feel really good and interesting to manage and play with. Unrelenting Assault animation is kitten too if you time a jump correctly with the animation.

    But Revenants are the ultimate cheaters. They’re the opposite of the Warrior: they don’t really rely on their own swordsmanship but channel a fancy figure from history and use them and their skills/abilities.

    They’re the Ditto of GW2.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Lily.1935Lily.1935 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    I think it all boils down to opinion. In my opinion the most swordsman thing out there is the dashing young man fighting for the lady's hand or to avenge his father. And since it was the side arm of choice even as armor fell out of favor I can't help but think of this archetype. Of others don't agree that's okay. Neither of us are wrong.

  • Scar.1793Scar.1793 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2018
    Revanent

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Scar.1793 said:
    Mesmer is just cheesy stuff. Their flurry animation comes from warrior sword burst skill animation.
    With Revs even if they are far from op as mesmer the skills on swords feel really good and interesting to manage and play with. Unrelenting Assault animation is kitten too if you time a jump correctly with the animation.

    But Revenants are the ultimate cheaters. They’re the opposite of the Warrior: they don’t really rely on their own swordsmanship but channel a fancy figure from history and use them and their skills/abilities.

    They’re the Ditto of GW2.

    It’s called Power!

    My warrior in GW2 used a sword and was awesome.

    My warrior in GW2 can’t use a proper power spec with swords it has to be condi (as if we didn’t have enough classes specced condi like scourges).

    Can’t say it feels like playing a real warrior. Even Mesmers are better but heavy armor and dual wielding swords? I’m sold !

  • Mhina.1827Mhina.1827 Member ✭✭

    I'm thoroughly enjoying reading your posts and how some/most of you use the weapon's historical context to substantiate your opinions. Keep up the great work.

  • Khailyn.6248Khailyn.6248 Member ✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    I think of mesmer because it reminds me of fencing especially in movies 3 musketeers, princess bride (i see you used bonettis defense against me aye?), the count of monte cristo etc. While warriors and guardians have a more medieval style, so it's really a toss up since both had their places throughout history. Mesmer and arguably thief to a point just have a more sword duelist feel that was seen in Italy and France (later on using pistols which both professions also use).

  • Iozeph.5617Iozeph.5617 Member ✭✭✭
    Ranger

    Ranger hands down. Someone said nimble and it's true, but what sets it above Warrior is that all of its Great Sword skills are usable on the run. You'd have figured the master of arms class(Warrior) wouldn't be so crippled in this regard but there's nothing so tragic-comic as seeing a Warrior plant for Hundred Blades and then watching as someone or something simply walks out of it. It's reminiscent of Peter Sellers, as Inspector Jacques Clouseau, doing karate chops at empty air.

  • KeoLegend.5132KeoLegend.5132 Member ✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    Mesmer of course. The best Duelist

  • Fipmip.7219Fipmip.7219 Member ✭✭✭
    Guardian

    I agree with kako in the guardian being the most like a knight with a sword. a warrior feels more detached from swords than guard, typically seen wielding many differing weapons like axes and hammers and spears. other classes feel like they are more more magical or maniacal, like thief and engi.

  • draxynnic.3719draxynnic.3719 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Lily.1935 said:

    On the topic, a big factor to consider was the classes that can wield 2 swords simultaneously, because if you've ever tried dualwielding you know it's bloody hard. So it came down to warrior, mesmer or revenant. I just think Revenant has the coolest sword skills, hence why I chose it.

    The dualwielding we see in this respect is all fairly 'practical' dualwielding, however: we don't see anyone trying to strike with both swords simultaneously. Most offhand sword skills are blocks (iRiposte, actual Riposte), reflecting standard practice of using one weapon for defence, being used essentially as a focus for a magical attacks (iSwordsman, Shackling Wave) or simply throwing it (Impale). Sword/axe on Warrior is probably technically more difficult because it not only involves using both weapons offensively, it involves doing so simultaneously.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2018
    Ranger

    watching gw fox on his melee ranger 1vX'ing before it was even a thing was the best.
    best mobility, best evades, best animations (with sb can do rev sword 3 anim), best burst even.
    ranger all da way.

    Te lazla otstra.
    nerf list

  • coro.3176coro.3176 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Ranger

    "Swordsman" in my mind means a fighter that uses their sword offensively and defensively, eg. for blocks/parries.

    Ranger fits best here, with 1h sword being evasive and flowing, but not magical (eg. no teleports). GS has some very flavourful "swordsman" skills in Counterattack and Hilt Bash.

  • draxynnic.3719draxynnic.3719 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think there is some magic in ranger sword skills - those giant ghostly animals aren't popping up naturally.

    However, I think it's also fair to distinguish what the ranger does from professions like the guardian and revenant, where many attacks are simply channeling magic through the blade. The ranger is at least in a position where all their attacks involve hitting the enemy with their sword, even if the attacks are magically enhanced, rather than simply channeling magic through the sword or performing actions that would be completely impossible without magic.

    When it comes to greatswords... if you're thinking about pure martial prowess, I'd be inclined to say that rangers are better greatsword users than warriors. Warriors feel like they use their greatsword the way people think two-handed swords got used in combat: gripping it exclusively by the handle and swinging the blade at the enemy. Rangers feel closer to using genuine longsword/greatsword techniques. (Although they don't have an 'end him rightly' skill, instead throwing the whole sword and presumably drawing a second one... have to admit, I do roll my eyes a bit at Crippling Throw and Bladetrail.)

    For one-handed swords... the question is a bit murkier. If looking at pure martial proficiency, you'd probably be looking at warrior, ranger, or thief.

  • InsaneQR.7412InsaneQR.7412 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Warrior

    Warrior is best swordsman. Warr has 6 skills on sword on default and can wield a greatsword.
    Mesmer is probably second.

    For best sword i am torn apart:
    Mesmer, Thief, Warrior and Guardian all have great sword skills.
    Thief and Guard are my fav though just due to the teleports.
    Rev has a good sword too but u dont like skill number 2,it could have been so mich more. And ranger sword is a love hate relationship. I love the disengage but i hate the locked engage behind a disengage.

  • kasoki.5180kasoki.5180 Member ✭✭✭
    Mesmer

    @draxynnic.3719 said:
    I think there is some magic in ranger sword skills - those giant ghostly animals aren't popping up naturally.

    However, I think it's also fair to distinguish what the ranger does from professions like the guardian and revenant, where many attacks are simply channeling magic through the blade. The ranger is at least in a position where all their attacks involve hitting the enemy with their sword, even if the attacks are magically enhanced, rather than simply channeling magic through the sword or performing actions that would be completely impossible without magic.

    When it comes to greatswords... if you're thinking about pure martial prowess, I'd be inclined to say that rangers are better greatsword users than warriors. Warriors feel like they use their greatsword the way people think two-handed swords got used in combat: gripping it exclusively by the handle and swinging the blade at the enemy. Rangers feel closer to using genuine longsword/greatsword techniques. (Although they don't have an 'end him rightly' skill, instead throwing the whole sword and presumably drawing a second one... have to admit, I do roll my eyes a bit at Crippling Throw and Bladetrail.)

    For one-handed swords... the question is a bit murkier. If looking at pure martial proficiency, you'd probably be looking at warrior, ranger, or thief.

    a) Its nice to see there are other Skallagrim fans in the gw community :D
    b) I have to agree. Honestly ranger GS is my favourite weapon design in the game. Especially posture on skill #4 is so well made

  • Warrior

    @Lily.1935 said:
    Swords were used more frequently as a side arm. Since armored combat the soldiers would prefer a weapon that could crack armor, like a mace or warhammer. So to put it simply, a sword would be more commonly used with unarmored people. Although there are Sword techniques that can be used against armored foes, such as half swording or the murder stroke. But for its expressed purpose of cutting and stabbing the class I feel would fit that tight quarters city fighting would be mesmer. Misdirection and controlling the field in order to prevent death against an Armored foe. At least Mesmer would be my opinion.

    Maces dont crack armor(maces were used against armored targets to "ignore" the armoe and crack the bones beneath)...all your post is nonsense.

  • Warkind.6745Warkind.6745 Member ✭✭✭
    Thief

    Warrior sword skills are condition based and make a funny little 'slish' noise on contact. Since I prefer an impactful attack over a dozen little papercuts, I'd go with thief every time.

    All is vain.

  • Eekasqueak.7850Eekasqueak.7850 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Warrior

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lily.1935 said:
    Swords were used more frequently as a side arm. Since armored combat the soldiers would prefer a weapon that could crack armor, like a mace or warhammer. So to put it simply, a sword would be more commonly used with unarmored people. Although there are Sword techniques that can be used against armored foes, such as half swording or the murder stroke. But for its expressed purpose of cutting and stabbing the class I feel would fit that tight quarters city fighting would be mesmer. Misdirection and controlling the field in order to prevent death against an Armored foe. At least Mesmer would be my opinion.

    Maces dont crack armor(maces were used against armored targets to "ignore" the armoe and crack the bones beneath)...all your post is nonsense.

    There were some mace adjacent weapons made to puncture or dent armor though like warhammers, it might not start cutting into skin or puncture it etc, especially with some stuff worn underneath but it will still cause blunt force trauma and maybe even restrict the wearers movement depending on where and how severely it gets dented.

  • Crystal Paladin.3871Crystal Paladin.3871 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2018
    Ranger

    Looking at ranger's monarch leap and serpent strike, and sword auto attack how he swirls and handles the sword, it makes me think, ranger can surely be considered one of the best swordsman... ;)

  • Elementalist (Weaver exclusively)

    Of all the Classes I tried I like the Sword skills of the Weaver the most, Love the jump and teleport skills and adding elements strikes.

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