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The amount of toxicity in pvp games today is mind-boggling

Fragcake.6372Fragcake.6372 Member ✭✭
edited June 11, 2019 in PVP

Every single game there is someone perma flaming no matter what, doesnt matter if we're winning or not, still someone has something abusive to say

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  • Elwita.6081Elwita.6081 Member ✭✭
    edited June 12, 2019

    sorry man don't expect anything pleasant or negativity towards negative behavior in pvp, everyone talks kitten because of frustration or just because it is fun to do so , there are no heroes in this game, just trolls and elitists like me :+1:

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yess this is the time unranked gets better. All the wintraders, tryhards, salty toxic people, bots, and pve afk reward hunters move back to "ranked".

    Enjoy the cesspool everyone. I quit the majority of ranked after season 7. I'll play my 10 games in the last few days as usual. Unranked is the best.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Happy Yes.1453 said:
    Ive made a thief with the name senator palpatine. When someone gets angry, I ask them to use their anger and I try to seduce them to the dark side of the force. For some reason this makes them shut up, while asking them to remain calm just makes them even more angry. People are weird!

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    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Chilli.2976Chilli.2976 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019

    All I can say is, harden up and don't take it personally. I get people flaming me on a rare occasion, and I don't give a kitten. When you start taking it personally, is when problems persist.

  • Alatar.7364Alatar.7364 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    The amount of toxicity in pvp games today is mind-boggling
    Plz Anet fix it by having Voice chat for a better toxicity experience.
    thq

    So many people believe or think that Voice chat would make all the toxicity feel worse or more "harassing" however I really can't help but think that most of the people would laugh their ***off the moment someone would be baby-raging on them with help of voice chat, just like it's super laughable in games that do have voice-chat.

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  • Crypto.7609Crypto.7609 Member ✭✭

    Devs mindlessly copy system that puts you with 4 random people and evaluates people's rank based on performance of those 4 random people instead of your own performance in games = enjoy toxic system until devs become more intelligent and introduce new, performance based ranked system.

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Play dota2 for couple of years, you get bulletproof immunity, any toxic behave in any other game will remind you kindergarden attempts to be toxic,
    downside is you might get top tier toxic yourself.

    "There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city."

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019

    I actually think GW2 is decidedly far better than PvP games usually are in this regard, even if it's because the community is small.

    Like what's the worst that happens? "OMG Uninstall" "OMG stop feeding." "OMG trash team"

    Not good sportsmanship or any way to conduct yourself. But at the worst that's the sort of thing you're going to see. Basic vanilla salt. And on the high end of things we are all a tight nit community. We all know each other. People are less likely to get into a flaming match because there's like 100 players above plat 2 and we're going to familiarize each self with each other. We're going to be against each other, teamed with each other, ect. ect. a lot.

    And that's not ideal at all. And any toxicity is not good. But when is the last time someone got SWATTED and killed because they beat someone at a game like has happened with League of Legends,DOTA2, Halo, and Counter Strike Go? When you want to see when real PvP toxicity hurts people, that's the sort of behavior you can expect in other games. The Guild Wars 2 community, whatever our faults, remain carebears in comparison.

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  • Megametzler.5729Megametzler.5729 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019

    I am having as much good experiences as bad ones. Try to be positive, give constructive suggestions, talk to your teammates... of course, sometimes people do get mad - myself included -, but making a plan at the beginning of a game can really help. Not only the match result, but also friendlier behavior as far as I can say.

    Just yesterday I had a game where our matchup wasn't quite optimal. But we made a good plan, everybody listened and did their part and after a great opening, we won easily. Several people didn't expect the outcome, but were very positive during and after the game.

    TLDR: Try to be a good example, I think it helps a lot. :smile:

    €: I noticed a lot more flaming on NA when watching streams over there. Here in EU, I don't think it's as bad - or it might be my own biased view.

  • MissCee.1295MissCee.1295 Member ✭✭

    @Megametzler.5729 said:

    €: I noticed a lot more flaming on NA when watching streams over there. Here in EU, I don't think it's as bad - or it might be my own biased view.

    I play on both EU & NA server and believe EU to generally be better. If only ping didn't kill me, I'd play non-stop EU server.

  • I'm still confused by all these claims.
    I wasent sure there was a chat to flame in?

  • XenoSpyro.1780XenoSpyro.1780 Member ✭✭✭

    Lord almighty, save me from mean internet words.

  • pukish.5784pukish.5784 Member ✭✭

    I played other games, said fu k at once then immediately got banned.
    Arena Net is too kind for we toxic players, I will enjoy this wasteland.

  • Traveller.7496Traveller.7496 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 16, 2019

    One thing I always wonder is why people think raging at their teammates will get a better result out of them. Some of the best matches I've had were ones where people actually communicated a bit and encouraged each other.

    But I guess it's a matter of taking a different skill to build a bridge than to tear it down?

  • Can't you just right click and block?

  • just dodge

  • Jack Redline.5379Jack Redline.5379 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    you have several options to deal with flamers and trolls:
    -come on to them
    -try to convert them to islam
    -ask for build advice with horrible utility skills
    -ask them to hold node for you while you go pee
    -complain about your imaginary (hopefully) hemorrhoids
    -get mad that you are being disabled and have no way to stop this from happening
    -ask your team how to replenish health
    -follow them around while spamming med kit
    -insult their outfit and tell them they'd lose in any fashion competition they dared to enter

    so its basically this: get them so mad that they stop talking, weird them out, or distract them into silence. sure this will most likely make them afk, but hey, then you sure as hell don't have to deal with them anymore! not to mention they probably wont queue again for another 30min. you're welcome and enjoy.

    my personal favorite is to say my dog just threw up on my feet it always shuts everyone up

  • Jack Redline.5379Jack Redline.5379 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Alatar.7364 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    The amount of toxicity in pvp games today is mind-boggling
    Plz Anet fix it by having Voice chat for a better toxicity experience.
    thq

    So many people believe or think that Voice chat would make all the toxicity feel worse or more "harassing" however I really can't help but think that most of the people would laugh their ***off the moment someone would be baby-raging on them with help of voice chat, just like it's super laughable in games that do have voice-chat.

    GW2 is new CSGO deal with it...
    i like ths idea
    lets do this xD

  • Jack Redline.5379Jack Redline.5379 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @alwswannafly.3428 said:
    just dodge

    a man of culture

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Regon Phoenix.8215 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Regon Phoenix.8215 said:

    @Kamskill.9457 said:

    @Regon Phoenix.8215 said:
    Also, do you play necro? Because if you play necro in pvp, then you deserve to be flamed for making your team lose.

    Brain issues ?

    Don't have any. Do you want some?

    Think I already got some after reading your post 😂

    Well, you should see a doctor to help you with that. It might leave permanent damage.

    That self burn was hilarious 😂
    Thumbs up :+1:

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    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
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  • @sephiroth.4217 said:
    That self burn was hilarious 😂
    Thumbs up :+1:

    Oh, looks like it is too late for doctor...

  • Traveller.7496Traveller.7496 Member ✭✭✭

    I started doing some ranked matches for the first time when this season started and I have never seen a worse cesspool than the 10 matches I have fought. When I played unranked it was kindergarten level compared. I don't consider myself having a thin skin, but it does make you think twice before doing any more.

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto.7609 said:
    Devs mindlessly copy system that puts you with 4 random people and evaluates people's rank based on performance of those 4 random people instead of your own performance in games = enjoy toxic system until devs become more intelligent and introduce new, performance based ranked system.

    Posts like this that abdicate control over one's emotions and behavior until a video game company makes rules changes always make me laugh

  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 17, 2019

    This morning we had several new players- brokenhearted of the abuse they received by abusive Toxic Players, insulting them to 'get gut' after each instant deaths by these players.

    Yes!! I totally blame Anet for creating a hostile environment due to their Toxic balancing with Toxic designing of these professions giving, promoting and encouraging these players to be Toxic-Abusive.

    Each time Anet increase Toxic balancing including Toxic designs; it gives abusive players more power to abuse even more.

    Create a Toxic-Hostile environment and an Toxic experience, only encourages and promotes more Abuse

    These Toxic-Abusive players as i witness as well, were very Proud of their actions because 'they can do so without any punishments whatsoever'-'Anet won't do anything'-'they gave it to us, so why not abuse it'

    That is why i am strongly against encouraging Toxic balancing+Toxic designs---It leaves no room for Punishment and Consequences.

    Toxicity gives abusers free-will to abuse-to be hostile and granting them unlimited access to harass anyone without repercussion at anytime, anywhere without Punishment

    (As long Toxicity-Abuse is involved in balancing and designs, its abuse will continue until there will not be anyone left to take the abuse)

    I am furious that Anet has not taken absolutely no steps of defusing Toxicity or to even make any serious attempt of completely removing it in the game

    Toxicity can not be contained or controlled. It's destiny is destruction and death.

    Toxicity will take Gw2 to its grave without mercy

    2 Choices

    1- Either do something about it now
    2- Embrace Gw2 imminent death

    It is Anet duty to encourage a healthy environment and to promote a competitive-Fun experience for all players alike

    (Power-Creep, +1 shotting, Bad Design Mechanics including Stealth, Spamming Powerful Skills at will, Abusing Broken Skills, allowing Thief Toxicity to control the game dynamics including its balancing must immediately end. Lastly; for the complete removal of Thief-to be later added to the game--after carefully being reworked/redesign after once its Toxicity influences in the game has calmed)

  • DoomNexus.5324DoomNexus.5324 Member ✭✭✭

    Easy fix I've discovered last season. Just block everybody as soon as you enter the match. Works like a charm.

  • Dall.9752Dall.9752 Member ✭✭
    edited June 17, 2019

    @Alatar.7364 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    The amount of toxicity in pvp games today is mind-boggling
    Plz Anet fix it by having Voice chat for a better toxicity experience.
    thq

    So many people believe or think that Voice chat would make all the toxicity feel worse or more "harassing" however I really can't help but think that most of the people would laugh their ***off the moment someone would be baby-raging on them with help of voice chat, just like it's super laughable in games that do have voice-chat.

    In Heroes of the Storm (a MOBA of all things, probably the most toxic type of game ever created) the devs were reluctant to implement voice chat. A large portion of the community didn't judge it a great idea either, but turns out it made matches better and less toxic because players who would run wild on their keyboard weren't so enthusiastic about flaming on voice chat.

    Last time I played I'd autojoin voice and turn chat off, save for warnings and pings. Started winning way more after that, games became more fun and less stressful too.

  • Azure The Heartless.3261Azure The Heartless.3261 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 18, 2019

    ?

    Create a guild for chill people. Slowly acquire chill people. Practice in unranked. Go do tournaments.
    Why do people think you need to give toxic players the time of day for any reason? Leave them to struggle in ranked. There's a bunch of people hanging out in duel rooms/the HoTM Arena that are also decent teammates and can also likely pull their weight in tournaments, and they can also write complete sentences without being angry.

    There is literally no reason to play ranked at the moment, especially with match manipulation upsetting the higher tiers of play and basically making it a contest of who is willing to sink the most gold for an arbitrary title. If you want to have fun in pvp, go find the fun people instead of trying to tolerate the people who make it their aim to be as intolerable as possible, then claim the pvp community is dying.

    [Charr Noises]
    [Plays every class]
    [JUST GIT EVEN GUDDER ITS FINE]

  • Zawn.9647Zawn.9647 Member ✭✭✭

    @Azure The Heartless.3261 said:
    ?

    Create a guild for chill people. Slowly acquire chill people. Practice in unranked. Go do tournaments.
    Why do people think you need to give toxic players the time of day for any reason? Leave them to struggle in ranked. There's a bunch of people hanging out in duel rooms/the HoTM Arena that are also decent teammates and can also likely pull their weight in tournaments, and they can also write complete sentences without being angry.

    There is literally no reason to play ranked at the moment, especially with match manipulation upsetting the higher tiers of play and basically making it a contest of who is willing to sink the most gold for an arbitrary title. If you want to have fun in pvp, go find the fun people instead of trying to tolerate the people who make it their aim to be as intolerable as possible, then claim the pvp community is dying.

    the thing is that ranked play is very rewarding...
    the chest pips gives lots of gold and it gives you a legendary via the Year of Ascencion... :/

  • Azure The Heartless.3261Azure The Heartless.3261 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 18, 2019

    @Zawn.9647 said:

    @Azure The Heartless.3261 said:
    ?

    Create a guild for chill people. Slowly acquire chill people. Practice in unranked. Go do tournaments.
    Why do people think you need to give toxic players the time of day for any reason? Leave them to struggle in ranked. There's a bunch of people hanging out in duel rooms/the HoTM Arena that are also decent teammates and can also likely pull their weight in tournaments, and they can also write complete sentences without being angry.

    There is literally no reason to play ranked at the moment, especially with match manipulation upsetting the higher tiers of play and basically making it a contest of who is willing to sink the most gold for an arbitrary title. If you want to have fun in pvp, go find the fun people instead of trying to tolerate the people who make it their aim to be as intolerable as possible, then claim the pvp community is dying.

    the thing is that ranked play is very rewarding...
    the chest pips gives lots of gold and it gives you a legendary via the Year of Ascencion... :/

    I don't think lots of gold/legendaries are worth putting up with what ranked has become to be honest. Not when those things also can come if you put groups together that you actually like being around, whatever the hit to efficiency is, but I understand the reasoning.

    [And tournaments are pretty lucrative too]

    [Charr Noises]
    [Plays every class]
    [JUST GIT EVEN GUDDER ITS FINE]

  • WOW you must have amazing team coordination with that attitude. Hope to never see you in my matches.

    @DoomNexus.5324 said:
    Easy fix I've discovered last season. Just block everybody as soon as you enter the match. Works like a charm.

  • Terc.5736Terc.5736 Member ✭✭✭

    My simple solution is to turn off the chat and play as best as possible. I play for chests , ascended shards , and gold nothing else. I do find it strange that any criticism in this forum of ANET is quickly snuffed out and poster given a warning but the constant abuse of members in PVP by some is tolerated and allowed to escalate to unbearable levels. The increase of inactive/idle players in tourneys is also something that wasn't as bad last year

  • I am not abdicating toxic behavior, but...were these new players in ranked PvP? If so, they have no business being there. They need to hone their PvP skills in unranked, by the time they "get gud" they will have thick skin and not get hurt feels over a video game.

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    This morning we had several new players- brokenhearted of the abuse they received by abusive Toxic Players, insulting them to 'get gut' after each instant deaths by these players.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Imo this depends with how game actually works and is managed.

  • SlateSloan.3654SlateSloan.3654 Member ✭✭✭

    over the past years alot staff has change inside arenanet and since what? 2014 i think john corpening is head of competitive and he is pretty much an sympathic guy i would any time meet in a bar after work to have some chit chat and a beer with, watch a football match in a stadium together or what ever. but when i see how and where the meta and balance has gone to in all competitive gamemodes its no wonder that community is so hard toxic by now as the current meta and design puts people under hard stress and frustration so they vent in form of toxic chatting and its heavily increasing.

    one false move and BBOOOOOOMM 20k hit you recieve and are in downstate directly. no human errors allowed anymore.

    is the gameplay design what turned community into. theres almost no "between" anymore with sustained fighting where you can say "gg" after to your enemies. either you block the first attacks with stress dodgefest and all the blocks you have or it makes BOOOOOOOOMMMM 23k , 18k, baaaaaaMMMM 8k hit and all boons gone.... thats why alot people have no respect of their enemies anymore. that all leads to a lack of fun. that leads to people calling enemies out and the other side just is like "improve your personal skill level noob" while playing a class which can one shoot enemies out of nowhere....

    the number of fights where i can say "kitten that other guy was pretty good and the fight was FUN" is very low these days, most the times i anger myself about that kitten 5 digit incomming damage even if i win.

    its a matter of leadership here, as the only one who did not change over the years is the head of competitive.

    you can see that because nothing has really changed on the gamemodes. wvw got 1 new desert map and pvp got beta dshinn + some minor changes on coliseum after years of existence... stronghold not to meantion is like small scale roaming with pve content inside, better go wvw directly.

    And there is only one thing we say to Death: 'not today'.

  • DoomNexus.5324DoomNexus.5324 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    @SplendaDaddy.6980 said:

    WOW you must have amazing team coordination with that attitude. Hope to never see you in my matches.

    @DoomNexus.5324 said:
    Easy fix I've discovered last season. Just block everybody as soon as you enter the match. Works like a charm.

    Yes indeed because I have good map awareness and can actually see and use minimap and group display.
    Actually I didn't block a lot of ppl this season, I was just very unfortunate at the end of last season because I could only play very occasionally on weekend evenings (where we all know the best queues are happening) so I dropped hard to gold 2.. but it keeps getting better the higher I climb back into plat to a point where toxicity is basically non-existent anymore in plat 2.
    What really grinds my gear this season is actually the amount of completely stupid bleed outs.. Like I had so many (almost) thrown matches because some people just never cleaved or stomped anyone so they kept resetting (obviously - but to some not so much apparently..) and eventually won the team fight.
    Like just yesterday I had several matches where a couple soulbeasts were constantly left to bleed out or people between enemy spawn and far.. it's actually mind bogglingly stupid if you ask me. We still won but it was unnecessarily close.

  • Gamble.4580Gamble.4580 Member ✭✭✭

    Should get no pips for loss

  • Dirame.8521Dirame.8521 Member ✭✭
    edited June 20, 2019

    I have my chat set to Combat so I don't see no evil or hear no evil. Gives a person less mental stress. I also don't do much talking to people apart from "play side nodes" depending on the enemy team comp at the start of a match.

  • The best way to react is to not react towards people flaming

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