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What in gods name hapend to wvw/eotm

Genlog.4983Genlog.4983 Member ✭✭

hello all first off all sorry for my english

after a very long break i wanna try gw2 again and see how things are going
so i wanna se wvw and omg they added mounts and you can glide to -.-

i even saw warclaw jump over walls o.O
ore players that dont have them get far behind the zerk party
i dunno what the dev team was thinking but the fun is wvw is not so fun anymore

and it seems that the comm of the zerk party jump from 1 border to the other ??
so in my few there so less players now in wvw that you dont have difrent zerk party's to defend is border ??

also my favorite area eotm its totaly dead really bummer i so much love the area
but thx to the dev team to remove the exp and only get rank points it seems players totaly quit eotm

old days was so much fun there was always a few 100 players on ea side and it was epic
and you can lvl your alt char fast there to becouse of the good exp
and nice loot for ea boss you fight

here so good old vid from 2014 that is a good old epic battle how it much be

not to mention the good old fear necro that was so funny to see a zerk party fear of the cliff :)

so in my few bring back the good old fasion back to wvw and eotm
let me know what you guys think can be beter for both

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  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    you .cant earn pips in eotm, so nobody plays it anymore.

    Getting the mount does suck. But it doesn't take too long. I've done it recently.
    I still dont think the mount is good for wvw, but adding ome was inevitable, as its a way to make money off wvw players.

    Wvw is profitable than it used to be, thanks to pips and reward tracks.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    wvw is now the new eotm only that its not per skirmish, its per relinks.

    long term wise.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MELORD.5013 said:
    WvW nowadays is just an AoE spam fiesta and it feels bad
    broken classes specially the pof ones
    i hope the new team will balance some of it

    to be fair, wvw has always been about aoe spam. but now 111 spam is less.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • SeikeNz.3526SeikeNz.3526 Member ✭✭✭

    i dont think the mounts are that bad, wvw is nothing more than running around one tower to another, theres no pvp only aoe spam fest, wvw is boring as hell

  • KurokawaKazuma.8641KurokawaKazuma.8641 Member ✭✭
    edited November 30, 2019

    Scourge, firebrand, holosmith, deadeye, boonbeast, mirage, weaver (so almost every spec PoF has to offer) and mounts (because avoiding fights and high five each other as you and the enemy pass by is an accepted norm nowadays) happened to WvW.
    Nothing more really. Game mode is severely unfun now.

    What do i type here?

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Offair.2563 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:

    @MELORD.5013 said:
    WvW nowadays is just an AoE spam fiesta and it feels bad
    broken classes specially the pof ones
    i hope the new team will balance some of it

    to be fair, wvw has always been about aoe spam. but now 111 spam is less.

    To be more fair, wvw was les aoe and skill spammy before HoT and it's powercreep that came with elite specs and such.

    because we used 111 that hit 5 ppl :P

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Garrus.7403Garrus.7403 Member ✭✭✭

    @MELORD.5013 said:
    WvW nowadays is just an AoE spam fiesta and it feels bad
    broken classes specially the pof ones
    i hope the new team will balance some of it

    It was always an AoE spam fiesta even in core.

  • wow thx so much for the coments
    so it seems there alot of work to be done in wvw
    also pain to my heart that 2 of the big bosses left arenanet :(

    so i hope the next boss wil turn the ship around
    i remeber players beging for mounts and see now gw2 is not going to well
    so i wonder if that was a good idee ??

    even with the new mount skyscale things only get to easy and take out the fun in my few

    years back i work my kitten off to get map complation to 100% with out mounts
    even alot of mastery with out them its was blood sweat and tears but i did it and it makes me happy
    but now things are to easy and it gets boring you dont learn how to play gw2 that way

    and i hope anet brings back eotm like old days that was fun and epic
    and in my few eotm looks beter its amazing high in the sky and the area is also not that big

    good and fun fights with good zerk partys

  • hunkamania.7561hunkamania.7561 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They've worked long and hard to destroy wvw and have accomplished their goals. From horrible expansions killing wvw balance, mounts and gliders that no1 wanted, a stupid new map no1 wants to play, auto upgrades, banners, and the list goes on and on. Can we get someone in charge of wvw that knows the gamemode? These guys are clueless

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  • Bristingr.5034Bristingr.5034 Member ✭✭
    edited November 30, 2019

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    a stupid new map no1 wants to play

    There's a fair number of people that actually like the new map. Just because your server doesn't, doesn't mean that other servers don't enjoy it.

  • @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    a stupid new map no1 wants to play

    There's a fair number of people that actually like the new map. Just because your server doesn't, doesn't mean that other servers don't enjoy it.

    You know that nobody else's opinion matters :) Its all about ME ME ME and what I like. Anyone who doesn't like the same is just a

  • Omaris Mortuus Est.2738Omaris Mortuus Est.2738 Member ✭✭
    edited November 30, 2019

    What can you do.
    They were caught out lying thanks to ncsoft.
    GW2 as a whole, not just WvW, was getting the minimum amount of resources spent on it!
    No wonder the PvE is terrible and WvW is neglected so much
    All we've ever got were gimmicks.
    Server pride doesnt exist anymore.
    Just guilds playing together to keep themselves together.
    To be honest I am surprised so many players still play the game.

    I guess that is why you see so many pew pew rangers in WvW these days. Players just fed up of the zerg so they like to troll instead.

    As for the bandwagon servers who still to this day claim to be in it for the fights.
    Well when they have to fight a server which can kill them half the time as well, they tank it down to the lower tiers for "good fights"

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    most dont care

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Ben K.6238Ben K.6238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Genlog.4983 said:
    i remeber players beging for mounts and see now gw2 is not going to well
    so i wonder if that was a good idee ??

    Mounts aren't the reason WvW sucks - it's always had problems with the game design, and the class balance since HoT has broken the PvP element, which was the only part that was ever functioning well. It sounds like they've finally got some staff on PvP/WvW skill balance who understand competitive gameplay (if true, it would be the first time since about 2006), so maybe that part could start to improve.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    i dont think the mounts are that bad, wvw is nothing more than running around one tower to another, theres no pvp only aoe spam fest, wvw is boring as hell

    Lel, found the guy who never played wvw more than 20minutes.

    About topic:
    Mounts are bad. For various reasons.
    Eotm should be deleted or become one of the border maps (with balance changes)
    Eotm was never rly a wvw map, only karmatrain.
    You can still level in wvw, you dont get exp, but tomes of knowledge.

  • Junkpile.7439Junkpile.7439 Member ✭✭✭

    Makes me sick to play WvW nowadays. Enemy just stand in AoE and won't die. Fights are total trash. Horrible gameplay.

    Low quality trolling since launch
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  • Hannelore.8153Hannelore.8153 Member ✭✭✭

    I'll never understand why EotM is not in the standard rotation. Its better than Dessert BL.

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    2 things
    1. tournaments disappeared
    2. the try hards - are few. most ppl dont care.


    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    WvW was dying before Mounts were added. Revision Historian tell you otherwise that Mounts killed WvW. WvW was dying before PoF as well.

    WvW's problem is that it's not objective based. It has no meaning anymore and Faction pride is a thing of the past now. There are too many maps at once (4 maps and 1 EoTM map 5 total) which spread out the population too much which is why usually most of those maps are dead population wise. They need to cut down on boarderland maps. No need for 3 of then per match-up. I would combine the boarderland maps into one map and have just EBG and 1Borderland map. Or can do 1 EBG map and 2 Bl maps that are 2 Faction based maps.

    Use the orange meta event timer system to introduce time based objectives to the WvW maps with designated winner/losers. Then it reverts back to the way its currently is where players just fight again over meaningless structures. This way both player types get something out of WvW.

    Also need more mobile sieges added to the game with different uses and play styles.

  • in my few shutdown wvw and all map eotm is so much beter and much more fun
    yearssssss back around 2015 or so it had more players then wvw

    second the map it self looks 10x beter
    you dont see red dots on the map so you dont really no where they are
    only the info on your screen witch tower is taken

    only the green side you can buy becons to set them up to ping where the players are
    other thing blow up bridges walk around in scorpion form to do more damage to walls

    no mounts no gliders just old fasion walking in a big group
    killing bosses get nice loot exp karma and so on

    easy for alt char to lvl faster
    try to knock of the players of the edge so funny

    good old days i laugh so hard that a cry and all players scream necro necro necro
    necro was insane op back that time as you can see in the vid you get good exp

    yesterday i was in wvw but its seems that now they dont care to capture areas just want to kill players over and over again -.-
    other server had a much bigger zerk party and they crush us over and over again

    but the com keep trying only for free bags dont see much fun in that
    am more a player to conquer areas with a good party like i always did in eotm

    so i really dont know what to think atm of wvw
    i wish anet brings back the good old eotm like old days and have fun again

    its all about fun that maters and anet remove that fun away from eotm
    becouse there always to many players there for karma and exp and more

    so what players love it and it was fun dont remove that

  • @KurokawaKazuma.8641 said:
    Scourge, firebrand, holosmith, deadeye, boonbeast, mirage, weaver (so almost every spec PoF has to offer) and mounts (because avoiding fights and high five each other as you and the enemy pass by is an accepted norm nowadays) happened to WvW.
    Nothing more really. Game mode is severely unfun now.

    I see spellbreakers alot too

  • gebrechen.5643gebrechen.5643 Member ✭✭✭

    EotM is, thank the gods, a tale of the past. The map was a karma train for a reason.

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  • Inoki.6048Inoki.6048 Member ✭✭✭

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    They've worked long and hard to destroy wvw and have accomplished their goals. From horrible expansions killing wvw balance, mounts and gliders that no1 wanted, a stupid new map no1 wants to play, auto upgrades, banners, and the list goes on and on. Can we get someone in charge of wvw that knows the gamemode? These guys are clueless

    I'm wondering why people still play this game. Why not just quit and play something else? Or will I hear the same "I made friends here" or "no alternative" comments?

    I quit. From time to time I open this page to check IF something's changed, just curiosity, but after such a long time I'm more certain nothing will. They have proven it on many occasions.

    Once a game (mode) goes into maintenance mode it's done. WvW has been in, for a long time.

    In all honesty, do you really believe that they will invest into a 7 years old game after such a long period of blatant neglect and actually turn things around? After a large portion of their revenue has left?

    This game is finished.

    Look around - plenty of room to improve at, but they just toss new content out that everyone completes in a few hours and then we're back to square one.

    🤦‍♂️

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @KurokawaKazuma.8641 said:
    Scourge, firebrand, holosmith, deadeye, boonbeast, mirage, weaver (so almost every spec PoF has to offer) and mounts (because avoiding fights and high five each other as you and the enemy pass by is an accepted norm nowadays) happened to WvW.
    Nothing more really. Game mode is severely unfun now.

    Its true, holos and spellbreakers where sooooooooooo weak on PoF release that literally no one played them and they still dont.

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    No seriously, dont. Shark teeth.

  • Celsith.2753Celsith.2753 Member ✭✭✭

    @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    a stupid new map no1 wants to play

    There's a fair number of people that actually like the new map. Just because your server doesn't, doesn't mean that other servers don't enjoy it.

    Yes and boy do those two players per server that like it whine like babies when no one else wants to go there.

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  • DeceiverX.8361DeceiverX.8361 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Celsith.2753 said:

    @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    a stupid new map no1 wants to play

    There's a fair number of people that actually like the new map. Just because your server doesn't, doesn't mean that other servers don't enjoy it.

    Yes and boy do those two players per server that like it whine like babies when no one else wants to go there.

    Right? The numbers have objectively fallen off a cliff since mounts.

    You sure that Sniper idea is as good as you thought it was gonna be?
    Because I think my original idea is better.
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  • gebrechen.5643gebrechen.5643 Member ✭✭✭

    And how do you connect that to mounts? I mean you can state it, but there is no way you can prove it. The numbers are going down since HoT and mounts weren't an issue.
    Correlation doesn't imply causation. The main reasons are most likely the players destroying the servers by transfering for karma train since seasons, balancing issues and Anets "maybe one day you'll get alliances".

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  • Hyper Cutter.9376Hyper Cutter.9376 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    2 things
    1. tournaments disappeared

    You're really never going to accept the truth about the tournaments, are you?

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hyper Cutter.9376 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    2 things
    1. tournaments disappeared

    You're really never going to accept the truth about the tournaments, are you?

    what truth? the anet version or player version?

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • misterman.1530misterman.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:
    WvW was dying before Mounts were added. Revision Historian tell you otherwise that Mounts killed WvW. WvW was dying before PoF as well.

    WvW's problem is that it's not objective based. It has no meaning anymore and Faction pride is a thing of the past now. There are too many maps at once (4 maps and 1 EoTM map 5 total) which spread out the population too much which is why usually most of those maps are dead population wise. They need to cut down on boarderland maps. No need for 3 of then per match-up. I would combine the boarderland maps into one map and have just EBG and 1Borderland map. Or can do 1 EBG map and 2 Bl maps that are 2 Faction based maps.

    Use the orange meta event timer system to introduce time based objectives to the WvW maps with designated winner/losers. Then it reverts back to the way its currently is where players just fight again over meaningless structures. This way both player types get something out of WvW.

    Also need more mobile sieges added to the game with different uses and play styles.

    Yup. Said it several times before that WvW needs better rewards. Players on the winning server get a chest, based on their participation level for the week. The chest can contain Grandmaster Marks, Legendary Crafting materials, etc. Players on the 2nd place server also get something. Players on the losing server get something even smaller. But rewards should be given for winning the week.

  • @Bristingr.5034 said:

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    a stupid new map no1 wants to play

    There's a fair number of people that actually like the new map. Just because your server doesn't, doesn't mean that other servers don't enjoy it.

    As someone who server hops and has been on every US server, this is not correct. You have a handful (if that even) who like the BL and play it. That is why it's a total waste land, I try and go roam there and will go clear around the whole map and back to spawn camp and no one has capped anything back yet, it's THAT dead. Yet at the same time, 3 way blob fights on EBG and 2 way blob fights on the other BLs. Blobs only go to DBL when there is nothing else to cap and they only go to cap every thing and leave to go back to the other maps. If so many people like the map as you seem to think, where are these people? They like the map so much yet don't play it?

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