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Man chrono doesn't even compare, they are not even related by blood Berserker is a peasant from a completely different bloodline. And chrono is from a privileged bloodline of royalty. Moa reset combo is actually oppressive, and without it? Chronomancer is safe evade spamming that has z-axis teleport. Evade spam/instant cast shatters > that stupid "effective hp argument" Chrono is literally just vanilla Mesmer but with more blocks on top of evade spam AND has the potential to completely shut someone down with moa combo. Even with the old arcing slice, berserker wasn't even that bad it died to everything else too if people would just disengage and run in a straight line after they see berserker come in with berserk mode. But to counter Chrono/Mesmer you have to pay attention to 1000000 evades/stealth that act as stun breaks/etc We have the right to complain tbh.

Bladespam LOL that's actually funny.

Spellbreaker is obsolete when BsW is more mobile/better stability/barrier on shouts Being an "honest" class in a dishonest game is too taxing for the player playing a class that can get trolled by unblockables and simple dodge counting It IS fun if you win using outdated builds but eventually it just dies to unblockables and stun lock, something that Warrior has been very weak vs since the meta is shouts, and shouts = you CAN get stunlocked to death unless you play daring dragon stability reset spam BsW or be the stunlocker and use CC while doing damage unyielding dragon and set up for the team.

It was a response to the other thread tbh in sPVP. But yes shouts and the barrier on last ammo trait has too much synergy.

And because shouts (which has always been meta everytime it was good)_ is good on BsW why play anything else? Whats wrong about complaining about how WE ARE PIDGEONHOLED WITH NO BUILD VARIETY This is why we have the right to complain, BsW either takes over to the point where why play anything else Or its so bad that Warrior has no good build according to ANET's "pattern" Like sure, me personally I think it's a good thing ANET finally gave Warrior z-axis teleport/CC with damage/stability spam on daring dragon. And that assuming that it was strong, they shouldn't nerf it because other classes are stupid too. But you know what problem comes after? MORE POWERCREEP that ruins/discourages playing other specs.

I remember pre-hot 2015, thats about it 😞

Imagine pretending Moa is hard to land in 2022 And imagine thining z-axis teleports with evade spamming while attacking + instant cast shatters that can be played as temporary pets is hard Mesmer was always a braindead class once you figured out how it worked, it had to be underpowered to be balanced really as shown in 2015 pre-hot even tho they were really strong pre-hot.

There won't and I doubt ANET is gonna allow this to happen Also there isn't much of a population sadly if they were to implement that you won't get a que in the first place The best solution is to make the "main game mode" 2v2 instead of conquest because conquest is garbage and people are still failing at simple rotations in 2022. But with 2v2? You have a better chance to have BETTER MATCHES. Less likely to have bots and less likely to have win traders as well assuming that's even happening today (because god forbid ANET does anything right when they have not) With 2v2 as the main game mode, you will have less toxicity and more likely to have a fun game. GW2 2v2 arena modes put more to the table than battlerite tbh and is probably going to be better than BDO or new world's arenas. Mechanically killing people is already complex, why make conquest the main game mode when people refuse to understand how match ups and 1v1s importance in conquest. Really stupid.

To create BsW probably, if you want to get started on this class, just play BsW because it's "easy mode" tbh.

Also one more thing for the laughs PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT ISN'T EVEN THAT GOOD, why would us Warriors not complain, when there are bad thread starters like this? WE HAD PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT A BAD HEAL that isn't even better than defiant stance and mending. We had people COMPLAIN ABOUT WARRIOR "EFFECTIVE HP" to justify how other classes have z-axis teleports and evade spamming while attacking when in reality effective health is IRRELEVANT because there are combos that kill heavy armor high hp. It's like L2P. We had people complain about an idea called "baseline fast hands," when it isn't even a brain damage ranger pet or mesmer/guardian evade/ranger spam while instant casting. It is VERY LIKELY that people like this work for ANET too and is part of the balance team, they actually don't know what they are talking about. Yet they say stupid things like "Warrior has no counterplay in WvW in small scale" when WvW small scale is the last place you ever want to play Warrior because of stealth resets/etc. Now I ask you people, why should we, Warrior, not whine or complain when there are obnoxious forces like this and are probably working for ANET? Le Sigh. P.S the same thread starter doubled down and even said combat stimulant was still broken even if Warrior was telegraphed, what? Use a telegraphed heal vs stun lockers and good comps, see what happens LOL.

Let me add one more thing btw Current Bladesworn players aren't "real Warrior mains" these are FOTM kids who think z-axis teleports and "spammy" playstyles are balanced. If were talking about "Warriors" that deserve to complain, its the people who want to play Core and want Berserker to be good. People who actually enjoy real casting times to have actual pay offs. I still believe that if BsW is gonna get nerfed, nerf other obnoxious specs as well But unyielding dragon that STUNS AND DOES DAMAGE/barrier spam/shout specs in general and historically/daring dragon stability spam + god tier mobility if you figure out how to use daring dragon which people haven't caught on yet isn't "real Warrior" playstyle and is a different kind of annoying "spammer-like Guardian/Mesmer/Ranger/Tempest/Harbinger or w/e Necro spec" that gets away with spamming/easy win conditions, and has a lot of fail safes. TL;DR It's okay for Warrior to have at least one "good build," so I can at least cheese other classes back. But because of the powercreep, why even pick any other build other than the broken stuff. That's basically what the Warrior mains subconscious right now. So yes they have the right to complain because of PIDGEONHOLING and ANET's constant nerf to telegraphed attacks such as Hammer AND anet's historically incompetence via frenzy nerf during 2013. We have the right to complain because anything that isn't bladesworn is telegraphed and outdated and not fun to play. And bladesworn isn't even the only good side noder really, Harbinger/Mechanist/Some obnoxious ranger spec can do the same thing. But to be fair, "real Warrior" died on HoT 2015.

It should be Warrior but they have a right to be mad. Core Engi has a right to do so but I'm kind surprised they're not as loud. Class mains that whine a lot and don't have the right to do so are Mesmers, Guardians, Rangers, Tempest w/e obnoxious meta elementalists, and Necros. Personally I don't see revs complain, but this class is also very obnoxiously evade spam and annoying. Necros because they never have to wait for stability to run out and fear/stunlock someone Guardians because this class has been brain damage since 2012, name me a class that has team support and CC that ignores evades reliably at a high level, you can't. And when people thought guardian was bad in around 2013-2014, they won a big tournament. Brain damage broken class since conception of the game. Mesmer = Evade spamming while attacking obnoxious coward class, chronomancer has a moa reset combo that's just annoying in 1v1s and it's hard to dodge because you have to predict obnoxious "high skill cap" instant cast shatters, virtouso = evade spamming while attacking, mirage = pet class Ranger = Evade spamming while attacking class with an automatic AI helping it bait dodges and stun breaks, pretty sure soul beast has an revenant sword 3 like attack and is protected too IIRC Tempest = will literally stun you through stability stacks and projectile block spam, annoying Honorable mention: -daredevils a little annoying to fight but at least they dont have ranger/mesmer pet/clones and don't have annoying team support like guard, kinda funny that I don't see them complain a lot personally. Would be funny if people complained about this class being bad tho, thief still really good. -Same with deadeye. It's an annoying spec to fight if not checked, but at least deadeye isn't an annoying clone/pet instant cast class that can stunlock your whole team like tempest or peel for your team like guardian does with its high skill cap "CC that goes through evades"

If anything like that were to happen, just put it on Core Warrior. It needs it, and it would be possibly fair because Core is just so telegraphed and outdated.

None, they're boring meta-slave FOTM kids shareholders that probably paid ANET to do this balancing lol.

It's more like how dare ANET destroy other builds by making builds that are just 1000% stronger. Why play Core Warrior when BsW is just better in every way. Spellbreaker? Still telegraphed, doesn't have a constant cleanse because its easier to proc cleansing ire as bladesworn. Can't really teleport over ledges like BsW either once you get used to daring dragon. And even the unyielding dragon one is good too because finally Warrior has a way to ignore blind/block. That's the real problem, they trashed build variety by making BsW good because other specs are so stupid that you may as well overbuff one Warrior so "each class has 1 good spec" So now we are in a position where PLAY THIS OR YOU LOSE. And it just isn't fun anymore. So I understand that ANET should make good specs because a class should at least have 1 good spec, but ANET shouldn't be trashing build variety because it just becomes stale and boring. Because they didn't want to balance around the 2015 pre-HoT era, there is powercreep, really stupid on their part.

including HoT, HoT specs are stupid too. I meant to say why can't i just play my old core specs as well lolz. Should've clarified that i guess.

Did a bladesworn beat you or something? XD but yeah you have to buy expansions to be relevant, real sad.

Man I remember doing quickness stacking with flurry back in launch wish those days would come back but they're not unless a private server comes out.

No because we don't spam evades and blinds/random weakness or w/e instant cast BS etc, but bladesworn is a different type of braindamage. And ANET will probably nerf it to the point of unplayability because they have been historically bad with game balance. It's basically the old celestial d/d ele but with stability spam and constant regen/cleanse if you do it right, and it's borderline fair because of other classes and powercreep. D/d celestial elementalist back in 2015 was stupidly brain damage once you figured out how to use it, bladesworn with daring dragon = constant damage stability constant mobility, high effective hp/health tankiness. High skill cap, but privileged and braindead, (Yes you heard me, a class/spec can be high skill cap and be very privileged and braindead, Bladesworn aka "Fake Warrior" is no exception) much like the old d/d ele for it's time. Plus it actually has a z-axis teleport, which becomes very easy to use with daring dragon. But if bladesworn gets nerfed, "Warrior" will not have one good spec, even tho bladesworn isn't really Warrior. So I will say enjoy it while you can if you play it and pray that everything else gets nerfed if bsw gets nerfed too.

Daring dragon is actually nice tbh, being able to use dragon trigger 2 for mobility is nice because it resets dragon stance so even if you miss you can still do something. And it allows stability spam because daring dragon = no ICD on stability when entering dragon trigger, which borderline allows BsW to compete with other classes that have annoying evade/blind spam/evade frame eating dragon hunter traps. With daring dragon, you only care about how many dodges/invulns you've baited, you don't have to count the stun breaks and depend on stun lock. It IS spamming playstyle to be honest, hence BsW isn't really Warrior once people figure out how Daring Dragon works. Sadly it will probably get nerfed, I would say that I'd rather play the 2015 Warrior where landing big hits feels good. But I am also compelled to say enjoy it while BsW lasts because of ANET's historical incompetence.

Vindicator and Herald, both iframe spammers. Very annoying tbh. My OP BsW effective hp can't even keep up its just annoying :Kappa: Iframes needs to be checked sigh.

Yea I want Hammer to be the aggro weapon Like make it take multiple stacks of stab tbh if it's not gonna ignore evades Blind spam aegis still would counter it sigh.

Count dodges, count cool downs is basically how GW2 pvp works I'd look into builds that give you a hard time and look at their utilities see which one is a stun break/evade.

Herald is stupid why is this class viable again, sigh. Evade spamming invuln spamming class, worse than the old stance Warrior because shiro is evade spam galore, and glint has blinds from time to time which is still annoying Chrono Moa reset so annoying too Necro still tanky and obnoxious Mechanist basically another Ranger Ranger still ranger. Same with guard Tempest stunlock Bladesworn isn't really Warrior, but if this gets gutted Warrior won't have a good build, zero build variety class that's pidgeonholed like always. Also stability spam basically the cousin of evade/blind spam (Seriously stop using stun dragon, daring dragon stability spam is stronger and the constant cleanse from cleansing ire + adrenal health infinitely up + mobility ASSUMING it doesn't bug feels nice in sPvP since daring dragon resets the dragon stance) Just bring back pre-hot 2015 in a private server, somebody. I miss landing big casting times on Warrior and feel rewarded.

Man.. I know bladesworn isn't really Warrior but does it have to carry over like that haha