Gorilla.4120 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The grandmaster trait Unyielding Dragons applies a 1/2s stun to every Dragon Slash skill. Does this mean all of the Dragon Slash skills will be reduced to a 0.01 damage coefficient? If so, they should rename the trait to Impotent Dragons because Dragon Slash has no other purpose but damage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mighty Cole.7849 said: The grandmaster trait Unyielding Dragons applies a 1/2s stun to every Dragon Slash skill. Does this mean all of the Dragon Slash skills will be reduced to a 0.01 damage coefficient? If so, they should rename the trait to Impotent Dragons because Dragon Slash has no other purpose but damage. Dragon who stepped in it's tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulumdir.3795 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I've been saying this, the feb 2020 update messed us up the most out of all classes. And in my opinion it didn't have anything to do with "purity of purpose" or any design philosophy bullcrap. They either don't know how to balance correctly, or they look at balance as a waste of time and just chuck Cal at all issues. Headbutt will forever be my reminder of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla.4120 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I have to admit, being rooted in place for 5s while charging a weapon skill that has no damage and a half second stun is pretty ingenious. I wonder if it was designed by some of those mathematicians Cal Cohen was talking about in the live stream? 🤔 Edited September 19, 2021 by Mighty Cole.7849 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Their excuse will probably be it's a trait you don't have to take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP.8093 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Oh come on now. It'll obviously just do the normal Dragon Slash damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugboatSteve.3607 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: Their excuse will probably be it's a trait you don't have to take. I'll add this one to the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, ASP.8093 said: Oh come on now. It'll obviously just do the normal Dragon Slash damage. You doubt Cal's insistence that Hard CCs do no damage? Perhaps the wind up on it would be enough to justify still having damage though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: You doubt Cal's insistence that Hard CCs do no damage? Perhaps the wind up on it would be enough to justify still having damage though... Skills thats naturally do CC don't do damage but traits that do damage due to CC are fine. e.g. Terror and Lightning Rod. For me this follows the same rules because its a trait it should be fine. It would also be weird that it didn't because the times you would need to benefit from the unblockable and cant be blinded outside of competitive modes is near 0. Trait seems almost designed for PvP so if it 0'd the damage it just doesn't feel like it would make sense, at least to me. Edited September 19, 2021 by Sigmoid.7082 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sigmoid.7082 said: Skills thats naturally do CC don't do damage but traits that do damage due to CC are fine. e.g. Terror and Lightning Rod. For me this follows the same rules because its a trait it should be fine. It would also be weird that it didn't because the times you would need to benefit from the unblockable and cant be blinded outside of competitive modes is near 0. Trait seems almost designed for PvP so if it 0'd the damage it just doesn't feel like it would make sense, at least to me. I know, but I'm not putting past Cal to do it as a cruel joke on warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: I know, but I'm not putting past Cal to do it as a cruel joke on warriors. We do whine a lot ig. That's how they see us.. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla.4120 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Where is Karen when we need her? 😄 https://i.imgur.com/oJOTeiq.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonecap.4105 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 What? The grandmaster doesn't remove the damage. The stun is short duration, its functioning like a daze but its been designated a stun instead to make it stronger. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoosh.2718 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Mighty Cole.7849 said: The grandmaster trait Unyielding Dragons applies a 1/2s stun to every Dragon Slash skill. Does this mean all of the Dragon Slash skills will be reduced to a 0.01 damage coefficient? If so, they should rename the trait to Impotent Dragons because Dragon Slash has no other purpose but damage. Traits that stun dont effect the damage of a skill that does damage, I believe Ele has a few like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It will most likely still deal damage. Remember lightning rod, the trait which adds damage to every CC applied by the elementalist? It doesn't get the reduced damage treatment, the statement about this was that you specifically take this trait to deal damage with your stuns, so it makes no sense to not give it damage. This is a similar case for me. You take the trait to add a stun to your damage ability. Making the attack deal no damage in exchange for the stun would feel terrible, I don't see them reducing the damage with this trait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscuro.9720 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I would guess the stun may be turned into a daze, and the duration will be chopped down per charge. Won’t know until we play it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 We will never find out. Because we will never survive long enough to charge Dragon slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Maybe quickness will affect the build up time? If it doesn't then maybe it should. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterPeanut.9746 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 It should still do damage, similar to lightening rod. Also, folks who are insisting it's a short duration stun should read the tooltip again. It's a variable stun duration based upon your dragon trigger charge. It's 0.5s per stack up to 10. So a max 5 second stun if you full channel dragon trigger. A more likely scenario is somewhere in the 2-3s stun range which is still really strong. And unblockable and unblindable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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