Ausar.9542 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Wasnt Revenant supposed to have been the most Mobile in Combat class? So what happened to that? Because I feel Ranger and Thief do a better job than that now. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Sure, the day when warrior is the top Melee class 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Ausar.9542 said: Wasnt Revenant supposed to have been the most Mobile in Combat class? So what happened to that? Because I feel Ranger and Thief do a better job than that now. What gave you that idea? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shao.7236 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Ausar.9542 said: Wasnt Revenant supposed to have been the most Mobile in Combat class? So what happened to that? Because I feel Ranger and Thief do a better job than that now. If you're talking PvP, it's right behind Thief, for good reasons though. Revenant can take a lot of direct punishment so that had to be balanced somehow. Ranger is on the other hand always the same anomaly that's been struggling to be balanced, pets are still not completely balanced and it's funny to hear that some don't need changes, I could say the same for Core Elementalist or Warrior that some skills didn't need to be changed, what told Anet that Ranger stunbreaks skills didn't have to be changed is beyond me, it's still one of the profession that's the hardest to catch because CD's are so low and rotation so easy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 As someone who paid very close attention to all things Rev before HoT launched, I don’t recall a single time where any of the devs or press releases stated that Rev would be the “most mobile class.” Not sure where you got that idea 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausar.9542 Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, LucianTheAngelic.7054 said: As someone who paid very close attention to all things Rev before HoT launched, I don’t recall a single time where any of the devs or press releases stated that Rev would be the “most mobile class.” Not sure where you got that idea https://mmohuts.com/news/guild-wars-2-reveals-new-revenant-legend-shiro-tagachi/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/slashing-devastation-and-a-memorable-assassin/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomNexus.5324 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ausar.9542 said: https://mmohuts.com/news/guild-wars-2-reveals-new-revenant-legend-shiro-tagachi/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/slashing-devastation-and-a-memorable-assassin/ Well, it says "high mobility" and that Shiro "gives more mobility" but nobody claimed it's going to be "the highest mobility". And Rev has crazy high mobility nonetheless. 23 hours ago, Ausar.9542 said: (...) Thief do a better job than that now. I hope so.. the only thing that's keeping thief alive is its above-average OOC mobility. In combat mobility may be a little bit better on thief compared to rev, true, but their fighting capabilities are a lot worse in both duels as well as team fights. Edited February 10, 2022 by DoomNexus.5324 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artharon.9276 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Tbh it feels like it's on par with thief. Good gap closers, reasonable stun breaks, i never felt i need more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 12:01 AM, Ausar.9542 said: https://mmohuts.com/news/guild-wars-2-reveals-new-revenant-legend-shiro-tagachi/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/slashing-devastation-and-a-memorable-assassin/ Those were the times in which Impossible Odds provided quickness and Phase Traversal energy cost was 20, not 35, and didn't have a 5 seconds cooldown. Even then Revenant wasn't as mobile as Thief, Ranger or Warrior, and their two last specs are slow paced at moving and lack any kind of blink/teleport (albeit Vindicator has a couple of mid ranged gap closers). Sometimes Rev has been showcased as a "mix between Warrior and Thief", but in reality they are more a mixe between an Engineer and a Warrior: a mid HP class with a legend kit instead of a belt kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 6:01 PM, Ausar.9542 said: https://mmohuts.com/news/guild-wars-2-reveals-new-revenant-legend-shiro-tagachi/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/slashing-devastation-and-a-memorable-assassin/ Those 2 articles are referring to the legend, not the class. Shiro is more mobile than the rest of the legends, not the rest of the classes. Nothing in either of those mentions being a more mobile class. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 No, Warrior was supposed to be. Revenant, or more specifically the Legend/Subclass of Shiro is what made Revenant mobile, so they were more like a very tanky Thief. In fact, the entire sPvP early period of Revenant's existence is just a comparison between Power Herald and Power Thief being the best +1 rotation class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomNexus.5324 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) On 2/19/2022 at 7:00 PM, Buran.3796 said: Those were the times in which Impossible Odds provided quickness and Phase Traversal energy cost was 20, not 35, and didn't have a 5 seconds cooldown. Even then Revenant wasn't as mobile as Thief True. But thief then was also a lot more mobile in general. sb#5 alone for example is essentiall 77.78% more expensive than it used to be, since it had a range of 1200 at only 6 ini vs 900 range at 8 ini now. Like.. to travel the same 3600 units of distance you now need 4 casts at 8 ini (32 in total) whereas then only needed 3 casts at 6 (in total 18). With no increase of available initiative. Man.. I really wish we had a legacy mode for Custom Arenas where for the entire match all skills would be like at a selected patch :( I miss the old days where a good backstab crit could oneshot a soft target and the high mobility in general. Edited February 21, 2022 by DoomNexus.5324 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereath.1428 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) They definitely never wanted that. Especially after the most recent nerf to Phase Traversal which increased its cooldown by a 140%. I despised that change more than any other in a long time. Edited February 21, 2022 by XxsdgxX.8109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 5:04 AM, DoomNexus.5324 said: True. But thief then was also a lot more mobile in general. sb#5 alone for example is essentiall 77.78% more expensive than it used to be, since it had a range of 1200 at only 6 ini vs 900 range at 8 ini now. Like.. to travel the same 3600 units of distance you now need 4 casts at 8 ini (32 in total) whereas then only needed 3 casts at 6 (in total 18). With no increase of available initiative. Man.. I really wish we had a legacy mode for Custom Arenas where for the entire match all skills would be like at a selected patch 😞 I miss the old days where a good backstab crit could oneshot a soft target and the high mobility in general. Infiltrator's Arrow - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W) SB 5 has never been 1200 range at least not in the live game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomNexus.5324 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 hours ago, ArthurDent.9538 said: Infiltrator's Arrow - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W) SB 5 has never been 1200 range at least not in the live game. Oh, you're right, I was confusing it with Cluster Bomb in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I do not recall that rev is or was the most mobile. It surely is one of the most mobile classes. Balance wise, if it is more mobile than thief that would be bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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