subversiontwo.7501 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Regarding the blogposts, roadmaps and studio updates: I'd consider this a general game concern regarding communication and development overall, rather than any specific details about WvW only concerning players there. Quote Alliances When? This year. Our communication regarding this feature over the last few years missed the mark. In the past, development priorities shifted away from WvW, and unfortunately both World Restructuring and our players suffered as a result. Our new leadership team views WvW as a cornerstone mode of Guild Wars 2, and it will be a focus of ours going forward. July 2021 Quote We'll be back in the New Year with [a blogpost] that covers the December World Restructuring Beta December 2021 Quote Roadmap Spring 2022: Gameplay systems: WvW Alliance Betas Quote In the July 2021 ArenaNet Studio update, we said that we view World vs. World as a cornerstone game mode of Guild Wars 2. This statement still holds true for us, and now that Guild Wars 2: End of Dragons is released, we can further increase our support for WvW. We said that we’d be taking a multiphase approach to building this system. We’re still in Phase One. March 2022 Quote In the meantime, the team has shifted their attention to designing the user experience surrounding Alliances, a sub-feature of World Restructuring that allows multiple guilds to matchmake together. We’re also in the early phase of designing our next batch of rewards improvements for the mode. We’ll have more details on this in a future blog. April 2022 Hello? Echo? @Josh Davis.7865 Edited May 2, 2022 by subversiontwo.7501 7 2 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythical.6315 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Patience. They’re not going to give weekly updates. 5 1 3 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, mythical.6315 said: Patience. They’re not going to give weekly updates. I don't think you get it. The blogpost from december has not come yet. The betas from the roadmap have not come. The qoutes are promises of things to come, that have not come. No one is asking for weekly updates. Assurances of updates to come, are themselves not updates. Edited May 3, 2022 by subversiontwo.7501 10 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythical.6315 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, subversiontwo.7501 said: I don't think you get it. The blogpost from december has not come yet. The betas from the roadmap have not come. The qoutes are promises of things to come, that have not come. No one is asking for weekly updates. These are the same problems that the developer aknowledged in 2013. Should we have patience for another 9 years? You do realize that it's still spring, right? Patience. Edited May 3, 2022 by mythical.6315 4 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, mythical.6315 said: You do realize that it's still spring, right? Patience. Yes, for 28 more days. They have some stepping up to do if they are to deliver on anything substantial in that time frame. Reminders are in order. 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythical.6315 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, subversiontwo.7501 said: Yes, for 28 more days. They have some stepping up to do if they are to deliver on anything substantial in that time frame. Reminders are in order. It’s a blog post lol 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, mythical.6315 said: It’s a blog post lol Yeah and they can't even give us that little, for 5 months, lol. 4 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythical.6315 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, subversiontwo.7501 said: Yeah and they can't even give us that little, for 5 months, lol. As I said, patience. Better to have a post closer to the next test so that there’s more new developments that they can blog about. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie.5370 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, subversiontwo.7501 said: Yes, for 28 more days. They have some stepping up to do if they are to deliver on anything substantial in that time frame. Reminders are in order. Makes sense for it to be posted later rather than sooner, no? There'll be more to talk about, and they'll be able to give more information. I'd expect it at the end of the month. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodio.6134 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 9 hours ago, mythical.6315 said: As I said, patience. Better to have a post closer to the next test so that there’s more new developments that they can blog about. Tbh, you are kinda right, but also wrong. Patience is key, BUT we (the WvW-players) have been promised World restructuring for years now. It took years of silence until the betas started. It takes months of silence on any updates. Yes, we need to be patient, but ANet doesn't give us anything. Not for weeks, but MONTHS (after Years of silence). We have also been promised improvements in communication, which also never happened. There's zero interaction between ANet and the players in the WvW-forums. So imo, although crying about it won't help, I don't think it's unjustified. And the cherry on top: ANet called WvW a "cornerstone" of GW2, yet it seems (out of WvW-players perspective) that they don't care at all. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Custodio.6134 said: And the cherry on top: ANet called WvW a "cornerstone" of GW2, yet it seems (out of WvW-players perspective) that they don't care at all. personally all that i wish for is a balance patch concerning smallscale... we have not had a balancepatch in... i think forever lol.... We can be happy that the supportscrapper nerfs almost completly deleted Nadescrapper.... if that thing would still be running around it would be madness. Smallscale meta is just bunkers over bunkers over bunkers... its getting really boring lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabi black.1824 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) let's try to stay in the theme of the post. last communication is from April 22. if we have another communication by 22 May it would already be a big step forward I would say. a monthly cadence is a really good thing. it also wants to be a tip for arenanet, for the particular moment in which this mode is located. for my experience I can tell you that it is as if he had suffered a bad blow (and I do not say dead game or stupid things like that clearly wrong). everyone is waiting for alliances, EOD has been launched, we have seen pve fly light years ahead of our wvw . offended wvw players who take a break, wvw players intrigued by pve, players who become invisible etc etc. the result is that at stake you have a perception of stale/ bored. by my standards of course. not ready for your plans yet? not a problem. just talk to each other. Maintaining easy communication with your wvw community at this particular time is especially helpful. just my personal opinion. Edited May 4, 2022 by Mabi black.1824 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabi black.1824 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 since I never lack a positive thought, all the work of arenanet in pve that has brought quite a few new players as they said, we could find them in our parts in a few months, finished all their adventures could be intrigued to test themselves in this mode. arenanet may also have predicted this. update alliances and everything they might have in mind, could be voluntarily moved 6/12 months on the arenanet clock. it might make sense and I wouldn't even worry if I have an interlocutor to talk to and who keeps me informed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus.5672 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 8:47 PM, mythical.6315 said: As I said, patience. Better to have a post closer to the next test so that there’s more new developments that they can blog about. Imagine being a arenanet apologist in 2022, yikes. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger.3496 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Communication is fast and free in most cases, and would go a long way to backing up Anets ridiculous claim that WvW is a cornerstone of Gw2. I joined this game after launch, around HOT, and walked into the game with the expectation that WvW had died off at launch and was just ignored content. It took years for me to give it a try, because honestly, I had never heard it mentioned by Anet, and really still havent despite getting into WvW and loving it. People see content getting loved by the devs and they try it out, something that probably hasnt happened in GW2 WvW in a very long time. I wonder how many people are in my boat here, who didnt give it a try long enough to find action, and just wrote off the game mode forever. Communication would fix this, at least letting the community know its still active (it really is) and still fun (it is if you dont care about results) Whenever I see a developer with content like this, a mode that works but has been ignored for the games life, I fear a late game change and improvement, as I've seen other games absolutely destroy what was holding the ignored content together all those years. Part of me fears its server community, and the fact that its broken in a manner thats well known by all is the glue holding it all together and any update might turn it into structured PVE dungeons, existing but never played. Personally i want big changes but nothing ive seen shows me the people working on WvW get what makes it fun and know how to improve on that. Given the desert map and EOM content I feel safe in this assumption. I hope im wrong, i hope alliances breathe new life into the game, and they can maybe make boonballs less of a permanent zerg state, and maybe add some fluff content into the existing maps. Edited May 4, 2022 by StrangerDanger.3496 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lotus.5672 said: Imagine being a arenanet apologist in 2022, yikes. In all honesty, I posted the thread in general discussion, where spoiled brats get free content every two months (for our money), it just took the hack mods some 20 hours to dump the thread into the WvW basement, the realm of forgotten dreams 😉. I expected nothing less and as with the last thread of Anet qoutes, this was just another lighthearted- and tongue-in-cheek go at the ridiculous silence (or the talk with no sight of walk; true or false). I'm genuinely kind of keen on the blogpost though, because the devs have put themselves in a corner where the blogpost can only signal one of two things: a major breakthrough or a major setback. I'm hoping for the former but I'm not counting my chickens. Regardless of the outcome the information, when it comes, is poised to be good discussion (though not guaranteed good news). Grouch says he likes good banter, so I try to give some banter at times. We have little else to add to the topic of Alliances/WR at this point. Edited May 4, 2022 by subversiontwo.7501 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 8:30 PM, subversiontwo.7501 said: I don't think you get it. The blogpost from december has not come yet. The betas from the roadmap have not come. The qoutes are promises of things to come, that have not come. No one is asking for weekly updates. Assurances of updates to come, are themselves not updates. Next expac selling feature for the 3rd time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 12:37 AM, subversiontwo.7501 said: Regarding the blogposts, roadmaps and studio updates: I'd consider this a general game concern regarding communication and development overall, rather than any specific details about WvW only concerning players there. Hello? Echo? @Josh Davis.7865 It's always worth checking their Linkedin profiles in case they move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 it would be more than time for another beta run at least. anet wrote like as if they'd want / need more betas but first "had to" focus on pvE things after ditching any improvements on the wvw system for years, no clue what we can really expect anymore. nearly a waste of time to look for updates here. the link system is toxic as ever, matchups are unfun as ever... no changes just bold promises sofar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkidu.5937 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 blogpost its gonna be amazing not 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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