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Balancing Conditons


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On 5/14/2022 at 1:23 AM, Fueki.4753 said:

In my experience, it's far more often that it's the conditions, not power damage, that are excessively vomited over CC'd opponents, with barely half a thought involved.

Virtue of Justice active is one of the reasons why support guards rocks a lot still. Unavoidable burn that eventually builds up to such a degree that you're forced to take it.

 

For those who don't know. Until you're hit.. Dodging, blocks, invuls, just about anything you can think of will not remove the buff. You have to be absolutely hit for it to go away. Imagine that effect every 20 seconds/kill times 6 as a possibility in a team fight.

 

Not saying Support gets the refresh but this is a mechanic that exists and is possible.

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1 hour ago, AliamRationem.5172 said:

Only if we add the ability to cleanse power damage after the fact and a stat to frontload condition damage so it deals most of its damage in the first couple of seconds.  Fair?

We already have that, it's called Healing Skill. It's slotted on "6", never heard of it? 
There's also no need for stats like that, there are some classes that do that via traits, like Nuke Holosmith. Fun times.

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29 minutes ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

We already have that, it's called Healing Skill. It's slotted on "6", never heard of it?

 

Have you heard that this maigcal healing slill you have found, also can help recover health lost to condition Damage? 😱 Shocking right?

 

Maybe with this new found knowlegde you will actaully be able to play the game without feeling like those pesky conditions are sooooo unfair?

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

We already have that, it's called Healing Skill. It's slotted on "6", never heard of it? 
There's also no need for stats like that, there are some classes that do that via traits, like Nuke Holosmith. Fun times.

Exactly and that #6 skill also work for condi too. Everything that mitigate power damage also mitigate condi. But condi have condi cleanses on top of that so what's your point?

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22 minutes ago, Eugchriss.2046 said:

Exactly and that #6 skill also work for condi too. Everything that mitigate power damage also mitigate condi. But condi have condi cleanses on top of that so what's your point?

That isn't entirely true you know...?

- Toughness don't mitigate condition damage.

- Some skills only mitigate strike damage (like endure pain or Signet of stone)

- There are also specific damage reduction modifiers.

- ... Etc.

I'm not saying that there is not more than enough way to mitigate conditions yet those kind of things can probably shake your argument.

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1 hour ago, Amadeus.5687 said:

 

Have you heard that this maigcal healing slill you have found, also can help recover health lost to condition Damage? 😱 Shocking right?

 

Maybe with this new found knowlegde you will actaully be able to play the game without feeling like those pesky conditions are sooooo unfair?

If your heal doesn't remove conditions on activation, then it doesn't matter if you even healed. Let's add some poison and heal against power is different against conditions, try again.

21 minutes ago, Eugchriss.2046 said:

Exactly and that #6 skill also work for condi too. Everything that mitigate power damage also mitigate condi. But condi have condi cleanses on top of that so what's your point?

You know that conditions aren't just "damage numbers"? Do you?

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11 minutes ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

If your heal doesn't remove conditions on activation, then it doesn't matter if you even healed. Let's add some poison and heal against power is different against conditions, try again.

You know that conditions aren't just "damage numbers"? Do you?

 

Ohhh noooo not poison, which a power build also can apply for the reduced healing effect!

What are we to do about it! 😱 /S

 

Healing is no different Vs condi then power. 5k health lost from power is the same as 5k lost from condition. If you heal 5k health you have the exact same result.

 

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5 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

We already have that, it's called Healing Skill. It's slotted on "6", never heard of it? 
There's also no need for stats like that, there are some classes that do that via traits, like Nuke Holosmith. Fun times.

And here I thought healing worked just fine for any type of damage?

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