PvP Balance guy

[Choyacute.8591]

Does the person in charge of the pvp balance even play pvp?

 

And if yes, why does he play only willbender or harbinger?

[Exalted Quality.8534]

You’re talking to a ghost lmao

[Choyacute.8591]

And i forgot he even nerfed core engineer!

 

It must be that core engineer was very detrimental for the game, even more than willbender and harbinger.

 

Dammnit core engineer was S tier not like willbender or harbinger.

 

What is inside the head of the person doing the balance????????

[Newholiday.8103]

Pvp balance guy needs to change his job, for the good of us all

[Sleepwalker.1398]

They've been seen once or twice in WvW on this class.

https://imgur.com/6x8dwwo

Edited June 6, 2022 by Sleepwalker.1398
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[Lan Deathrider.5910]

25 minutes ago, thepolishman.2348 said:

Pvp balance guy needs to change his job, for the good of us all

I hear he specializes in pool noodles.

[Myror.7521]

But we all know willbender and harbringer are same good balanced as warriors is. We all know it. Just dont skip this path. (Irony off)

[Newholiday.8103]

Seriously, petition for CMC to change his job.  He's clearly terrible at it.

[Fueki.4753]

There is no balance in sPvP or anywhere else in the game to begin with.

It's only changes for the sake of changing things.

[Multicolorhipster.9751]

23 hours ago, Choyacute.8591 said:

What is inside the head of the person doing the balance????????

Peace. Everlasting peace and tranquility.

CmC does or did play at some point and I think they mained Ele of all things.

The lord doth work in mysterious ways.

5 hours ago, Fueki.4753 said:

There is no balance in sPvP or anywhere else in the game to begin with.

It's only changes for the sake of changing things.

That might very well be true.

Balance is folly to begin with. It should be about fun changes if its just going to be changing things for the sake of changing things.

[Spellhunter.9675]

On 6/7/2022 at 12:07 AM, Choyacute.8591 said:

What is inside the head of the person doing the balance????????

Water

[Hotride.2187]

On 6/7/2022 at 12:50 AM, thepolishman.2348 said:

Pvp balance guy needs to change his job, for the good of us all

Some big-shot pvper should hire them in the big shots company.

[Copyright.9082]

Was going to post something but then realized we don't know kitten about who does what at arenanet since they don't communicate. 

All we know is that there is no pvp balance team able to operate independantly from every other team. Same goes for wvw. 

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Classic Perception.2507

[apharma.3741]

Limited to numbers changes.
Many problems are not just numbers problems.

What do?

[lotus.5672]

41 minutes ago, apharma.3741 said:

Limited to numbers changes.
Many problems are not just numbers problems.

What do?

Increase core engi cooldowns.

[Newholiday.8103]

44 minutes ago, apharma.3741 said:

Limited to numbers changes.
Many problems are not just numbers problems.

What do?

 

Right now, they're not even bothering with numbers changes.  That's the current state we're in.

[Hotride.2187]

Just now, thepolishman.2348 said:

Right now, they're not even bothering with numbers changes.  That's the current state we're in.

Weren't the changes for williebender number changes only?

[Newholiday.8103]

6 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said:

Weren't the changes for williebender number changes only?

 

Latest changes were >2 months ago.  Willbender and harbinger have been absolutely dominating for that entire time period.  At bare minimum, I would expect numbers changes at a tempo faster than 2-3 months.

Edited June 8, 2022 by thepolishman.2348

[Fueki.4753]

10 hours ago, thepolishman.2348 said:

 

Latest changes were >2 months ago.  Willbender and harbinger have been absolutely dominating for that entire time period.  At bare minimum, I would expect numbers changes at a tempo faster than 2-3 months.

Given that they announced to go for quarterly changes, one shouldn't expect a faster pace.

[Newholiday.8103]

22 minutes ago, Fueki.4753 said:

Given that they announced to go for quarterly changes, one shouldn't expect a faster pace.

 

Huh, wasn't aware they said that.  Pace was biweekly before that.  Sucks then, I guess.  Hopefully, they'll address willbender and harbinger in the June patch.

[semak.7481]

10 hours ago, lotus.5672 said:

Increase core engi cooldowns.

I mean... they butchered core mesmer so many times for the sake of chrono/mirage that I'v lost count... its a bit insulting to see only core engi being mentioned all the time 😕

p.s that mysterious "the balance guy" singlehandedly killed pvp and its population.. as if he was born for this or had an experience at doing so

Edited June 9, 2022 by semak.7481

[Sahne.6950]

11 hours ago, thepolishman.2348 said:

 

Latest changes were >2 months ago.  Willbender and harbinger have been absolutely dominating for that entire time period.  At bare minimum, I would expect numbers changes at a tempo faster than 2-3 months.

You forgot, that Harbinger and Willbender were reaking havoc prior to that balancing patch.... AAAAAANNNND they nerfed Core engie... but left those 2 untouched.   The balancegods work in mysterious ways...

[Pengu.7481]

2 hours ago, semak.7481 said:

I mean... they butchered core mesmer so many times for the sake of chrono/mirage that I'v lost count... its a bit insulting to see only core engi being mentioned all the time 😕

 

its because core engi was already lying dead on the floor when they did it. 

core mes is still miles ahead of core engi in terms of viability

[semak.7481]

44 minutes ago, toxic.3648 said:

its because core engi was already lying dead on the floor when they did it. 

core mes is still miles ahead of core engi in terms of viability

Shield had it coming for a long time.

Good luck with core mesmer in your journey to viablity while holo coulndt carry such a dead weight 😅

Edited June 9, 2022 by semak.7481

[Kuma.1503]

5 hours ago, semak.7481 said:

Shield had it coming for a long time.

Good luck with core mesmer in your journey to viablity while holo coulndt carry such a dead weight 😅

I think you underestimate just how loaded they made holo. They had to stack it to high heavens in order to carry core engineer. 

Here's a list of everything the meta Holosmith setup gives you with just one traitline, no utilities, and no weapons:

Mobility - Holo Leap

Condi Cleanse - Prismatic Converter, Crystal Configuration: Zephyr

CC - Holographic Shockwave, Holo Leap (cripple)

Sustain - Heat Therapy

Self-Might Uptime - Enhanced Capacity Storage Unit, Corona Burst

Vuln Uptime - Corona Burst

Ranged poke damage - Photon Blitz

A good damage modifier - Lazer's Edge

One traitline gives you a well rounded kit. If core engi had anything even remotely decent and you stacked it on top of that, it had to get nerfed because it would cause holo to overperform. Conversely, it should be a testament to just how bad core engineer is if something this overloaded has fallen to the wayside as of late. 

As for why core engimore attention than core mesmer, it's because it's already dead, and they still keep nerfing it. And there are still people , including streamers who defend the nerfs, (Even you say shield had it coming... Because it overperformed on Mech and Holo. Proof that people still defend core engi nerfs to this day) 

At least core mesmer has the luxury of being mostly dead and forgotten. They might be bad but they don't keep getting worse patch after patch.

Core engi, more than likely will continue to see nerfs even after this. Scrapper is still king in WvW, so there may be Elixir gun, Med kit, Alchemy, or Inventions nerfs on the horizon. If Willbender and Harbinger get nerfed, Holo can make a resurgence in the meta... which puts them in the direct line of fire for more core engi nerfs to tone it down. Perhaps  Explosive Entrance can take a hit next. We got rid of their bunkering.  Lets remove all of core engi's damage next!