JinONplay.8905 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 why does this even exist? this trait is either useless or very underwhelming. Why can the devs just make the burning on bow automatically? why do i even need this trait for a condi weapon to have condition damage? This trait has been ignored for a very long time and it has been very useless 13 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscuro.9720 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Pre 2020, there was a really cool double-ranged build with rifle and longbow that worked pretty well that used crackshot. It died though 😞 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdict is Vengence.6912 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, JinONplay.8905 said: why do i even need this trait for a condi weapon to have condition damage? Such a funny and accurate question. Simple thoughts like these really puts things into perspective 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalthea.4326 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Agreed. That, and the 10% damage buff to rifles is almost unnoticeable, not to mention how useless underwater weaponry already is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 7 hours ago, oscuro.9720 said: Pre 2020, there was a really cool double-ranged build with rifle and longbow that worked pretty well that used crackshot. It died though 😞 rip warrior diversity 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscuro.9720 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Just now, eXruina.4956 said: rip warrior diversity 😞 More decent builds now though, thanks to Oct 4 patch 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, oscuro.9720 said: More decent builds now though, thanks to Oct 4 patch 🙂 aye. 🙂 we finally got our second wind. 💪 and praying they follow it through in coming patches. 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzaku.9765 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Last I checked, it was bugged to make Volley generate 2x Adrenaline per shot. Which would be good if Rifle were even remotely usable anywhere. The 10% buff to Rifle auto damage is really funny too since it's competing in the same slot as Warrior's Sprint. Edited October 8, 2022 by Jzaku.9765 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Kalthea.4326 said: Agreed. That, and the 10% damage buff to rifles is almost unnoticeable, not to mention how useless underwater weaponry already is. Because its only the AUTO that gets 10% stronger. 😬 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbujackson.9564 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Isnt the burning on the longbow AA still bugged and gives less duration than intended because of an old competitive split? The effects on AA are actually so weak that you can make them baseline and give a flat stat increase depending on your weapon instead. Longbow/harpoon 120 condi dmg, Rifle 120 power while keeping the lower CD. Or just make it a pure condi trait because warriors sprint 10% mod already exists. Edited October 8, 2022 by anbujackson.9564 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaif.3518 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 You're ignoring the 20% recharge to skills 2-5. Im not saying your other points are wrong, but 20% recharge is a decent benefit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalthea.4326 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, jaif.3518 said: You're ignoring the 20% recharge to skills 2-5. Im not saying your other points are wrong, but 20% recharge is a decent benefit. Most of those are ammunition skills, which is probably why that buff isn't noticed as much, but yes, that is a decent buff given to other weapons as well. Except Hammer and mace now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, Kalthea.4326 said: Most of those are ammunition skills, which is probably why that buff isn't noticed as much, but yes, that is a decent buff given to other weapons as well. Except Hammer and mace now. Which, if you all remember, Anet is starting to cull, so that benefit will soon be gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonecap.4105 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 It’s not a useful trait. It sucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaniretouni.4762 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 almost 80% of the arms trailine is useless and complain about 1 trait? don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to complain because warrior has been crap since 2020 but complain for more stuff. we need way more support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalthea.4326 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 hours ago, thaniretouni.4762 said: almost 80% of the arms trailine is useless and complain about 1 trait? don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to complain because warrior has been crap since 2020 but complain for more stuff. we need way more support. I think this is mostly a "rifle barely has anything and the one thing it does have isn't good" type deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padrion.7382 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I'm currently using this trait on a condi berserker. It more or less triples the dps on longbow auto attack and reduces the cooldown of a couple of other useful abilities. Warrior's Sprint is probably still better in PvP for getting out of immobilize but in PvE it is really not as mandatory anymore with mounts and stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalthea.4326 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 7:18 AM, Padrion.7382 said: I'm currently using this trait on a condi berserker. It more or less triples the dps on longbow auto attack and reduces the cooldown of a couple of other useful abilities. Warrior's Sprint is probably still better in PvP for getting out of immobilize but in PvE it is really not as mandatory anymore with mounts and stuff. Part of the problem with our DPS is that we have to rely on a gimmicky trait like this to provide a function to a condi weapon that should have been baseline on it to begin with, not to mention requiring the 20% cooldown on any weapon we want to use properly otherwise we're left in the dust due to high cooldowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) crack shot is garbage because warrior range is garbage. also because warrior sprint is too crucial because warrior dies to immob, an immobed warrior = dead warrior, that's literally the reason why they added this trait back then, warrior was basically already died the moment it is immobed. which is why, this trait outshine literally every other trait. if you put brawler's recovery, peak performance, forceful greatsword and warrior's sprint in same tier, warrior's sprint will be picked. why warrior so weak to immob, because warrior sustain CCing enemy, melee pressuring and landing burst. if you are immobed, you can't do none of those, so you are just dead. unlike other classes with built in immob cleanse in skills, or is able to sustain without the need to hit the enemy. literally every form of warrior sustain is through hitting the enemy, adrenal health, magebane tether, full counter, cull the weak, cleansing ire, etc. if you run damage warrior without warrior sprint, you may as well just delete the game. unless you are bladesworn with a million self heal that does not require hitting the enemy so you can use warhorn on top. if warrior is not THIS weak to immob, then warrior's sprint value would diminish and crack shot and vengeance may see some play Edited October 13, 2022 by felix.2386 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 8:26 PM, JinONplay.8905 said: why does this even exist? this trait is either useless or very underwhelming. Why can the devs just make the burning on bow automatically? why do i even need this trait for a condi weapon to have condition damage? This trait has been ignored for a very long time and it has been very useless The point of this trait seems to be increasing -even if ever so slightly- sustained ranged dmg. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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