trunksam.3497 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I'm not english so sorry if i make a mistake. I think adding a option to show your headgear without the one of the outfit can be a nice option for outfit customisation. Like having sunglasses, revenant mist scrim or even elf ears with an outfit can be really cool. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Outfits and armor sets are two completely different things. They cannot mix and match them. 3 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasya neko.1985 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 50 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: Outfits and armor sets are two completely different things. They cannot mix and match them. yes they can, they just never made it that way. look at the original GW, you can do this both ways and it was never an issue, that they totally ignore a most wanted system is not the players fault here, it is completely on them. 6 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunksam.3497 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 You can already show/hide the helmet of outfit.. so i think it's possible to show/hide headgear while with a outfit. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, trunksam.3497 said: You can already show/hide the helmet of outfit.. so i think it's possible to show/hide headgear while with a outfit. Not really, because you show/hide outfit helmet by using actual helmet skin toggle. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecreeper.2930 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Yeah that would be awesome, i need my elven ears with the maid outfit ! 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This is literally the only reason I don't use outfits, because they hide my glasses/cat ears/etc. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuavePuppy.2809 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I understand why people would want this feature, but I would imagine this is the kind of thing that would have needed to be included from the release of outfits, which was many years ago. But then again, what is the point of an outfit if you can mix and match it with armor pieces? Why would that only be limited to the headgear and not the rest of your equipment? And if this was the case, then there'd be no difference between outfits and armor skins, thereby leaving us to ask why outfits exist at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarius.9285 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Outfits and armor sets are two completely different things. They cannot mix and match them. of course they can lol...it's not like it's physically impossible, it's just that they didn't do it 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, trunksam.3497 said: You can already show/hide the helmet of outfit.. so i think it's possible to show/hide headgear while with a outfit. It has been asked for hundreds of times and we have had dev statements when the system was implemented saying they can’t mix the fourth weight (outfits) with the other three armour weights. Now, things do change over time and maybe they will find a way round it, but we do know it hasn’t been possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Outfits and armor sets are two completely different things. They cannot mix and match them. Eeh? Most outfits just have the helmet separate and the chest piece take up all the other slots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sir Alymer.3406 said: Eeh? Most outfits just have the helmet separate and the chest piece take up all the other slots. Yes, but outfits are their own armour weight/class as far as the games’ code is concerned. From what we have been told, they can no more be mixed than light and heavy can be. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Randulf.7614 said: Yes, but outfits are their own armour weight/class as far as the games’ code is concerned. From what we have been told, they can no more be mixed than light and heavy can be. Darn. Short of importing every helmet skin into the outfit weight, looks like nothing will be done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiamat.8254 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Thecreeper.2930 said: Yeah that would be awesome, i need my elven ears with the maid outfit ! Exactly! This is what I want! I would have bought the outfit if this was possible 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulous.2934 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Sir Alymer.3406 said: Darn. Short of importing every helmet skin into the outfit weight, looks like nothing will be done. Then Anet had best get started Importing those helmets to the outfit weight category. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Zebulous.2934 said: Then Anet had best get started Importing those helmets to the outfit weight category. See no need for this since they were not advertised as being able to replace your helm of an outfit with what ever you like. It was either have the outfits helmet or take it off and really they did not even have to implement that tbh. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Linken.6345 said: See no need for this since they were not advertised as being able to replace your helm of an outfit with what ever you like. It was either have the outfits helmet or take it off and really they did not even have to implement that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashTestAuto.9108 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'll just throw in that I would use the outfit system more if helmet skins could be visible. Currently the lack of customisation (and often weird dye channel choices) tend to make them unappealing to me. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, CrashTestAuto.9108 said: I'll just throw in that I would use the outfit system more if helmet skins could be visible. Currently the lack of customisation (and often weird dye channel choices) tend to make them unappealing to me. If Anet were going to make outfits customizable in this manner, they might as well just make armor sets. We would all just have to wait about 9 months for each new set since that's about how long it takes to make them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashTestAuto.9108 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: If Anet were going to make outfits customizable in this manner, they might as well just make armor sets. We would all just have to wait about 9 months for each new set since that's about how long it takes to make them. If true, then this seems like a solid reason not to implement that customisation. I have no idea if it is true though. If, as has been mentioned in this thread, the outfits are just a big chest piece that is treated as a fourth armour weight, with the helmet already independent, then this doesn't *sound* like something that would be equivalent to making new armour sets. Obviously there's a huge amount of unknowns in there from the customer side though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 hours ago, CrashTestAuto.9108 said: I'll just throw in that I would use the outfit system more if helmet skins could be visible. Currently the lack of customisation (and often weird dye channel choices) tend to make them unappealing to me. If you want to mix and match the skins then just stick to the armor skin sets/pieces they also release through gemstore. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulous.2934 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I suppose it is the same problem that the preview window has. If you preview a piece of armor for a weight you don't wear, the preview strips every other armor weight from your character. So your elementalist ends up previewing a pair of steel boots while in their underwear. If outfits are a universal armor weight and if we could stop them from clearing the appearance of the other weights. If they could leave the helmet part of the outfits empty in the equipment window, but include helmet skins in the outfit purchase. If we could equip an outfit, but it ignored the armor weight of what we have on our head and let the head armor show through. That would leave the hide helmet button alone. They would have to release helmet skins for all of the outfits and decapitate the current outfits. I think it could work. Preventing armor from unequipping competing weights might do it. Is a level 80 heavy gauntlet actually more protective than a level 80 glove? Are armor weights actually functional in this game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greyhawk.9107 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 15 hours ago, Zebulous.2934 said: Is a level 80 heavy gauntlet actually more protective than a level 80 glove? Are armor weights actually functional in this game? Yes, they are. A Heavy gauntlet is going to have a higher base armor value than medium or light glove of the same quality type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 6:52 PM, kharmin.7683 said: Outfits and armor sets are two completely different things. They cannot mix and match them. I'm sure it's technically possible but what would it take? We don't know how they program certain things and this could be something that is complex and bug prone. 16 hours ago, Zebulous.2934 said: Is a level 80 heavy gauntlet actually more protective than a level 80 glove? Are armor weights actually functional in this game? Heavy armor has a higher resistance against strike damage. Not against condition damage however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulvar.1239 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Light/Medium/Heavy armor use different body rig. That's why you can't mix them. Outfits are separate because they use custom rigs. That's why they're not part of the armor wardrobe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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