LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Waffles.5632 said: I agree, meta builds only really shine in meta team comps. This is so ridiculously untrue it's insane. Most meta builds are better outside of meta comps than builds like this and/or can be tweaked with a trait adjustment or two to be highly self-sufficient without losing much of what makes them meta. Comments like these show low knowledge of the reality of the strength of meta builds and how easy it is to tweak those builds to make them solo sufficient This build is fine for OW, sure, but I personally wouldn't want anyone to run it in my groups for fracs/strikes/raids. Not because the build can't clear that content (it can), but because it's so far from optimal for the role it's trying to fill. The issue with weird hybrid builds like this is that they don't fill any of the major requirements for a party. Vindicator's biggest issue as a hybrid is that it is just redundant in an actually well-built group (i.e., most instanced groups, even pugs (and no, providing 25 might/Prot/boon extension really isn't enough, it's still redundant with many, many other team comps)) Is it Playable? Certainly. Good outside of OW? No, not really, so I wouldn't classify it as "good for strikes/fracs," but as "passable" for those at best. But even that is kind of dangerous in that it gives newer players (which are the primary people that would be playing a build like this) false ideas about what is good or bad for instanced content, which can lead to bad confrontations with less agreeable players. Builds like this run under the assumption of being "good for fracs/strikes" kind of sets new players up to fail instead of giving them the tools to get better, which is a big disservice to those players imo Edit: I am a big proponent of "play how you want" and "make your own groups," however, just to be clear so not knocking you playing the build in your own groups or with like-minded people. I do think it's important to acknowledge the reality that the build is far from optimal for instanced content (and certainly not "good" for it), that the larger community may not accept builds like these easily, and that in some ways it does set up newer players to fail Edited February 26 by LucianTheAngelic.7054 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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