aiinseinn.5914 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) i will stop playing against willbender till they get nerved .. its awfull .. have fun guys Edited April 8, 2023 by aiinseinn.5914 15 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholagar.8352 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Play Harb, I feel I go about 50/50 or they run away 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlcl.8176 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Play Catalyst, Harb, Virtuoso. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin.4501 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 I can't believe you have the nerve to post this!! 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin.4501 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 But in all seriousness, the real problem is Anet's 'balance' team never consults with anyone in the PvP/WvW departments (as if such things exist 🤣) before they roll out these new specs. It was the same with the HoT and PoF specs, and then we see them scrambling to 'balance' things months/years later when the balance is all out of whack. Maybe one day they'll learn, but I'm not holding my breath. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Ronin.4501 said: But in all seriousness, the real problem is Anet's 'balance' team never consults with anyone in the PvP/WvW departments (as if such things exist 🤣) before they roll out these new specs. It was the same with the HoT and PoF specs, and then we see them scrambling to 'balance' things months/years later when the balance is all out of whack. Maybe one day they'll learn, but I'm not holding my breath. How the new e-speces are consulted: A-net: So we created this uber mobile bs class with high burst and kitten load of boons that can delete stuff in seconds or run away because why not. *Room filled with only teefs and guardians*: That's what I'm talking about! LETZ GO! *Everyone else still waiting to be allowed to even lick door handle at A-net HQ*: Bruh, what? 6 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphor.3480 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Try catalyst with hammer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarzAttakz.9608 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Zyphor.3480 said: Try catalyst with hammer. I think you missed the part about mobility... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazieL.5684 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Zyphor.3480 said: Try catalyst with hammer. in wvw do you want to never kill people because they just walk away from you? because people will just WALK away from you... 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereath.1428 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) Willbender was made for people who wanted to play like Power Herald players do but without playing Herald, because they weren't good enough with it. Power Herald = High risk / Mid Reward (Used to be equally high years ago. Sad.) Willbender = Low Risk / High Reward. The perfect formula for awful balance, because it means that the class/build will be overplayed. Edited April 8, 2023 by XxsdgxX.8109 5 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Blade of El Elyon.9341 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I agree, Willbender does need looking into, I seem to be seeing more and more of them in WvW and some balancing wouldn't go amiss. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 5:25 PM, aiinseinn.5914 said: i will stop playing against willbender till they get nerved .. its awfull .. have fun guys Did you play one to learn how to kill them? Did you create a build to hunt them down? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingplanet.6912 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said: Did you play one to learn how to kill them? Did you create a build to hunt them down? No, but it just that it's willbender's turn to get nerfed. If devs have any of that in mind in terms of counterplay, then none of the nerfs would've happened. (even reworks.) 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, flyingplanet.6912 said: No, but it just that it's willbender's turn to get nerfed. If devs have any of that in mind in terms of counterplay, then none of the nerfs would've happened. (even reworks.) Don't really find Willbenders that much of an issue to fight, the ones that failed their rotation do have options to run away, but so do a lot of other classes. Build one to see their rotations or build a catchem build that can hunt them when they run from you. If its the burn ones that are getting you add in more condi cleanse if you aren't dodging it. That or share what part of their attack that got you so there is info on what part of the rotation is over performing. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingplanet.6912 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said: Don't really find Willbenders that much of an issue to fight, the ones that failed their rotation do have options to run away, but so do a lot of other classes. Build one to see their rotations or build a catchem build that can hunt them when they run from you. If its the burn ones that are getting you add in more condi cleanse if you aren't dodging it. That or share what part of their attack that got you so there is info on what part of the rotation is over performing. I wish I would've recorded when I saw willbender carrying out 1 vs ~8 pug fight (and winning) few weeks ago. Again, I have no problem when a profession has such potential because who knows, I might find it interesting and play it some day. But too many profession got gutted out in the past by anet simply because they can do that. Don't worry though. From what I know anet doesn't seem to read their own forum that much. Only if they see this kinds of nerf request getting a lot of likes in reddit, then it is very likely to be deleted next patch. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 F1 Rushing Justice: Rush, 800 range, 12s cooldown F2 Flowing Resolve: Rush, 450 range, 20s cooldown, 2 charges. F3 Crashing Courage: Shadowstep, 600 range, 30s cooldown. Sword 5 Advancing Strike: Shadowstep, 750 range, 20s cooldown. Flash Combo: Shadowstep, 900 range, 25s cooldown. Repose: Shadowstep return. Whirling Light: Lunge, 600 range, 15s cooldown. Rolling Light: Dodge back, 300 range, 25s cooldown. Quick retribution: Lunge, 300 range. Heaven's Palm elite: Shadowstep, 600 range, 20s cooldown. Sword 2 Symbol of blades: No line of sight teleport to target, 600 range, 8s cooldown. Judge's Intervention: Teleport, 1200 range, 40s cooldown. Merciful Interventon: Shadowstep, 1200 range, 40s cooldown. Why does one spec have this many mobility options that most of also does aoe damage? even the dodge one lmao. While also being built off one of the best support classes in the game. This is a thief on suparoids. 🤡 balancing to put that very lightly. Nothing to see here just fork over 🤑💰💸 15 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkidu.5937 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: F1 Rushing Justice: Rush, 800 range, 12s cooldown F2 Flowing Resolve: Rush, 450 range, 20s cooldown, 2 charges. F3 Crashing Courage: Shadowstep, 600 range, 30s cooldown. Sword 5 Advancing Strike: Shadowstep, 750 range, 20s cooldown. Flash Combo: Shadowstep, 900 range, 25s cooldown. Repose: Shadowstep return. Whirling Light: Lunge, 600 range, 15s cooldown. Rolling Light: Dodge back, 300 range, 25s cooldown. Quick retribution: Lunge, 300 range. Heaven's Palm elite: Shadowstep, 600 range, 20s cooldown. Sword 2 Symbol of blades: No line of sight teleport to target, 600 range, 8s cooldown. Judge's Intervention: Teleport, 1200 range, 40s cooldown. Merciful Interventon: Shadowstep, 1200 range, 40s cooldown. Why does one spec have this many mobility options that most of also does aoe damage? even the dodge one lmao. While also being built off one of the best support classes in the game. This is a thief on suparoids. 🤡 balancing to put that very lightly. Nothing to see here just fork over 🤑💰💸 no port on auto attack ?! 🤨 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riba.3271 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 World would look like a very bleak place if willbender was nerfed and roaming scene was just cele players pressing 1 stat gapping everything else. It is skillful enough build to be left alone. Nerf cele, then we can talk. 3 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, enkidu.5937 said: no port on auto attack ?! 🤨 Need to save something for next elite spec expansion. 🤑🍿 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Riba.3271 said: World would look like a very bleak place if willbender was nerfed and roaming scene was just cele players pressing 1 stat gapping everything else. It is skillful enough build to be left alone. Nerf cele, then we can talk. But what if it was already a bleak place? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riba.3271 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Xenesis.6389 said: But what if it was already a bleak place? I am video gaming, I am escaping from reality 🤓 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Riba.3271 said: I am video gaming, I am escaping from reality 🤓 Same, unfortunately I'm now escaping from gw2 reality too. 😏 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingplanet.6912 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Riba.3271 said: It is skillful enough build to be left alone. Nerf cele, then we can talk. Would be great if you ask other overly-nerfed roaming classes to be rolled back again 😊 6 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Same, unfortunately I'm now escaping from gw2 reality too. 😏 Many of my guildies already moved on. Probably anet too 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Celestial stats are broken. Many builds are op with them, while weaker with power or condi based stat. But wb is broken both on power and on cele stats. Wb population gets so big, close to ranger at this point. So many skilled players ... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiinseinn.5914 Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, TheGrimm.5624 said: Did you play one to learn how to kill them? Did you create a build to hunt them down? i have not the time or gold to build one . it was hard enough to build a scraper with asc gear and weapon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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