Duke Nukem.6783 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 its time we put all those spear skins to use for something other than water combat. I want to wield a spear and shield at the same time. a weapon class that can block and attack from the front at the same time would be cool, and half abilities as melee and the other half as ranged, or the ability to switch between the two with no CD between weapon swapping the 2 sets of weapon skills on the same weapon. while we're at it RELEASE THE PARAGON (no i don't care that the guardian exists) 16 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcore.5621 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I mean they already have the animations for throw Spears added if u go to eye of north u see a sunspear guy throw Spear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I agree with Duke Nukem. It’s time to throw spears and chew gum. And I’m all out of gum 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Nightcore.5621 said: I mean they already have the animations for throw Spears added if u go to eye of north u see a sunspear guy throw Spear Apart from spear using paragons, Istan map also has scythe-using dervishes. But all that fun stuff seems to be restricted to NPCs only, with players only being able to look at it, and be jelly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) The original virtuoso reveal pic still looks to me like she's holding a spear, as daggers face backwards not forwards in this game. But yeah weapons (and weapon skills) in this game are very generic. Edited June 12, 2023 by scerevisiae.1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem.6783 Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 perfect we all agree then, spears confirmed! they did say they wanted to evolve combat in new ways besides elite specializations in the future, it is time for a new weapon 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 In general, all water weapons really need to get some land use. I mean, if you just hear the worlds "trident necro", you can already imagine half the skillset. Harpoon Engineer? That dude really needs some more primary weapons. Spear Warrior? Come on, this is *screaming* to be in the game! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, Duke Nukem.6783 said: perfect we all agree then, spears confirmed! they did say they wanted to evolve combat in new ways besides elite specializations in the future, it is time for a new weapon Sadly we have been suggesting land spears for many years and still nothing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbrady.2167 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Spears as a land weapon makes sense. Spears are probably one of the most-used weapons in ancient warfare. I have to admit though, that they would probably need a rework of the abilities to reflect a non-aquatic environment. Even if they didn't rework any of the abilities, this is a high fantasy game so I doubt anyone would complain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Duke Nukem.6783 said: they did say they wanted to evolve combat in new ways besides elite specializations in the future, it is time for a new weapon "In the next expansion, called 'Combat Evolved', we will try something new, and show you that you can fight in completely novel ways...with words" (Anet introduces the new Diplomacy system) Edited June 12, 2023 by Astralporing.1957 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberzombie.7348 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 4 hours ago, The Boz.2038 said: Spear Warrior? Come on, this is *screaming* to be in the game! Especially since spears and pikes is the most used weapon throughout history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 No. The game does not need new land weapons. I'd rather have ANet rework underwater combat and make it relevant again. 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 The sole reason they don't is because it's Thief's best weapon and they scurred. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) The sole reason they don't is because there's 16 land weapons in the game and none of the classes is capable of using them all anyways, so introducing new weapons isn't a pressing issue at all. Edited June 12, 2023 by Sobx.1758 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue.8235 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said: "In the next expansion, called 'Combat Evolved', we will try something new, and show you that you can fight in completely novel ways...with words" (Anet introduces the new Diplomacy system) So rather than fighting and killing mobs just to farm some nodes, I can use diplomacy and persuasion to turn hostile mobs into an efficient work force to do the gathering for me? Nice, I'm hiring all the skritt and paying in junk items!.... now that I think about it, skritt might not be an efficient work force.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 DragonHunter has a spear and vindicator too. I would like to add make spears underwater can use staff skins. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem.6783 Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 15 hours ago, The Boz.2038 said: In general, all water weapons really need to get some land use. I mean, if you just hear the worlds "trident necro", you can already imagine half the skillset. Harpoon Engineer? That dude really needs some more primary weapons. Spear Warrior? Come on, this is *screaming* to be in the game! well the harpoon gun makes no sense out of the water but the rest I kinda agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem.6783 Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 13 hours ago, Misterbrady.2167 said: Spears as a land weapon makes sense. Spears are probably one of the most-used weapons in ancient warfare. I have to admit though, that they would probably need a rework of the abilities to reflect a non-aquatic environment. Even if they didn't rework any of the abilities, this is a high fantasy game so I doubt anyone would complain. this whole conversation is built on the assumption that they would get new abilities, not their water abilities the paragon would in particular need a swap button to go between melee and ranged attacks instantly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Duke Nukem.6783 said: well the harpoon gun makes no sense out of the water but the rest I kinda agree with You honestly can't imagine a single-shot torsion-powered thin-stick-with-a-sharp-end projectile-throwing weapon on land? At all? And then add a whole host of abilities based around hobbling the enemy with the tether line, pulling them closer, pulling you closer to them, etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, The Boz.2038 said: You honestly can't imagine a single-shot torsion-powered thin-stick-with-a-sharp-end projectile-throwing weapon on land? At all? You mean, crossbows? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Astralporing.1957 said: You mean, crossbows? Ding ding ding! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Duke Nukem.6783 said: this whole conversation is built on the assumption that they would get new abilities, not their water abilities the paragon would in particular need a swap button to go between melee and ranged attacks instantly oha not to bad get spear guardian skills to land. love to have a extra pull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveBunnies.5730 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 2023/6/12 at AM2点06分, Duke Nukem.6783 said: its time we put all those spear skins to use for something other than water combat. I want to wield a spear and shield at the same time. a weapon class that can block and attack from the front at the same time would be cool, and half abilities as melee and the other half as ranged, or the ability to switch between the two with no CD between weapon swapping the 2 sets of weapon skills on the same weapon. while we're at it RELEASE THE PARAGON (no i don't care that the guardian exists) I support you! But I would also like to use my scepter in water, too. Why not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, FiveBunnies.5730 said: I support you! But I would also like to use my scepter in water, too. Why not? Because making new skills for a new environment is a big thing, and I can't even begin to describe just how much of a non-factor "new underwater skills" is in the current state of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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