MarkoGold.7126 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Hi i am legitimately interested in what content do we get with this new expansion, and would appreciate some feedback. on launch - how many new maps do we get exactly - what new elite specs do we get - do we get new raids / dungeons / strikes - are guild halls getting upgrades to be more useful 2 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite.5389 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/announcing-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvar.5673 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) It sounds like an expansion but officialy they said it's a mini-expansion. However, it's more a paid glorified living story with trimestrial releases like the Icebrood Saga one in terms of size, but each year. All of the Soto mini-expansion will not be available at launch. A big part like 2 out of 3, for sure, but not everything. For the rest, there will not be new raids and elite specs anymore as it's too much work or too difficult to balance. Outside of new Guild Halls for main expansions (which are a thing of the past now), guilds contents are dead since HoT. Edited July 31, 2023 by Anvar.5673 9 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoGold.7126 Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Anvar.5673 said: It sounds like an expansion but officialy they said it's a mini-expansion. However, it's more a paid glorified living story with trimestrial releases like the Icebrood Saga one in terms of size, but each year. All of the Soto mini-expansion will not be available at launch. A big part like 2 out of 3, for sure, but not everything. then i see no reason to buy this. 12 4 1 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, MarkoGold.7126 said: Hi i am legitimately interested in what content do we get with this new expansion, and would appreciate some feedback. on launch - how many new maps do we get exactly - what new elite specs do we get - do we get new raids / dungeons / strikes - are guild halls getting upgrades to be more useful We get 3 maps; 2 at launch, 1 in the next quarter update. No new Elite Specializations, but Elite Specialization weapons while using any Specialization. New weapons in a later quarterly update. We get 2 Strikes Missions, Challenge Modes and a Fractal, as well as new Masteries and a new Daily, Weekly and Monthly reward system. No mention of Guild Halls so far. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 - Two maps and a hub, another map later. - No elites, but weapons aren’t restricted anymore. - Open world legendary armour - New relics system - They said new strikes and raids, but I forget if a number 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keymaster.7362 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 52 minutes ago, Anvar.5673 said: However, it's more a paid glorified living story with trimestrial releases like the Icebrood Saga one in terms of size, but each year. I realy don't know why people keep this comparison, when the new system was clearly designed to avoid many problems of the IBS. The designers are no longer forced to cut the second half of a living story, at least 3 episodes, and to replace them with a bad and rushed 'champions' filler, because they have time pressure to make the next addon. You don't get 2/3 of the expansions in August, you get 1/4. The trimestial updates will all be bigger, with new maps, new story parts and maybe new masterys and other extras, even if we don't have many information for later updates at this moment. And all the updates are included in the addon price. You don't have to pay them afterwards, like with LS 2 zo IBS. 4 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvar.5673 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Randulf.7614 said: - They said new strikes and raids, but I forget if a number 2 strikes missions at launch (CM later) and 1 fractal later. No more raids in the future. 8 minutes ago, Keymaster.7362 said: I realy don't know why people keep this comparison, when the new system was clearly designed to avoid many problems of the IBS. IBS bring us new stories, new masteries and 3 maps (2 of them were released in two parts) like those mini-expansions but without rushed chapters like Champions which is good indeed. 3 maps per year is very great compared to the many content droughts we got since the season 4, for sure. I hope they will manage to keep up the rhythm this time since it always failed in the past. The was already some delayments signs with the episode 3 of season 4 (with Joko and the Gandara rush). Edited July 31, 2023 by Anvar.5673 typo 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Anvar.5673 said: 2 strikes missions at launch (CM later) and 1 fractal later. No more raids in the future. IBS bring us new stories, new masteries and 3 maps (2 of them were released in two parts) like those mini-expansions but without rushed chapters like Champions which is good indeed. 3 maps per year is very great compared to the many content droughts we got since the season 4, for sure. I hope they will manage to keep up the rhythm this time since it always failed in the past. The was already some delayments signs with the episode 3 of season 4 (with Joko and the Gandara rush). I certainly believe 3 maps matching the quality of IBS maps will be a big win. I'm not expecting another Gyala, but that's what they need to steer away from 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, MarkoGold.7126 said: then i see no reason to buy this. Nonsense. Read the linked blog posts and inform yourself instead of listening to other people who also have not played it yet. 😉 https://www.guildwars2.com/en/secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/announcing-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/combat-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-new-chapter-begins-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-rewards-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfof.1842 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Nonsense. Read the linked blog posts and inform yourself instead of listening to other people who also have not played it yet. 😉 https://www.guildwars2.com/en/secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/announcing-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/combat-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-new-chapter-begins-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-rewards-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ Sure many people will read through entire catalogue of 1000 words first to search few relevant information? Why they don't even release basic list like: 3 maps ... ... so every one can see full content at once? 6 2 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) For the reading-averse, the first link (above) is mostly comprised of pictures: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/secrets-of-the-obscure/ Edited July 31, 2023 by Inculpatus cedo.9234 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfof.1842 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: For the reading-averse, the first link (above) is mostly comprised of pictures: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/secrets-of-the-obscure/ You know what is actually funny? when players do much better job than devs, for free: Guild Wars 2: Secrets of the Obscure - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W) 4 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Indeed. Those players read the News Blogs and other offerings from ArenaNet. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfof.1842 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Just now, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: Indeed. Those players read the News Blogs and other offerings from ArenaNet. and gather relevant information out of 10,000 words of ads and PR talk Ironic really, how about we get clear information directly from devs instead? No, would be impossible, right? 5 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Many players enjoy the deeper dives on information that the News Blogs, interviews, etc. provide. You do not, and that's fine. You've been answered in your thread and found the Wiki article. Gratz! Edited August 1, 2023 by Inculpatus cedo.9234 typo 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfof.1842 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: Many players enjoys the deeper dives on information that the News Blogs, interviews, etc. provide. You do not, and that's fine. You've been answered in your thread and found the Wiki article. Gratz! they can do both, you know 5 news blogs + 1 basic list for summary or is too much work, so players have to do for free? 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Nonsense. Read the linked blog posts and inform yourself instead of listening to other people who also have not played it yet. 😉 https://www.guildwars2.com/en/secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/announcing-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/combat-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-new-chapter-begins-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-rewards-in-guild-wars-2-secrets-of-the-obscure/ I have read all of those. Multiple times. Where is the part that includes a reason for me to purchase the expansion? 4 3 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said: I have read all of those. Multiple times. Where is the part that includes a reason for me to purchase the expansion? If none of that excites you, then don't buy it. There's nothing wrong with not liking a product even if other people do like it, and vice versa. No one needs to persuade you to buy SotO; it's absolutely fine if you don't. Maybe you'll change your mind after you see what people with SotO are doing, maybe you'll be glad you saved your money. It's entirely up to you and what you enjoy in a game. All anyone else can tell you is why *they* want to get SotO, and their reasons may not apply to you. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I bought for three reasons.. More story. Hopefully GW2 early style. New weapons to screw around with builds wise. Zojja. Its just what i like. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, wolfof.1842 said: and gather relevant information out of 10,000 words of ads and PR talk Okay, first it was 1,000 words, now it's 10,000. 😉 They even use large fonts that make for a fluent reading experience! 😂 18 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said: I have read all of those. Multiple times. Where is the part that includes a reason for me to purchase the expansion? I'm afarid that is a question only you can answer. 😉 Edited August 1, 2023 by Ashantara.8731 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfof.1842 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Okay, first it was 1,000 words, now it's 10,000. 😉 They even use large fonts that make for a fluent reading experience! 😂 next time I say 100,000 😃 just wait 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 1:30 PM, Donari.5237 said: If none of that excites you, then don't buy it. There's nothing wrong with not liking a product even if other people do like it, and vice versa. No one needs to persuade you to buy SotO; it's absolutely fine if you don't. Maybe you'll change your mind after you see what people with SotO are doing, maybe you'll be glad you saved your money. It's entirely up to you and what you enjoy in a game. All anyone else can tell you is why *they* want to get SotO, and their reasons may not apply to you. I was responding to someone who claimed that it was, "nonsense," to not be interested in this expac. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 18 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Okay, first it was 1,000 words, now it's 10,000. 😉 They even use large fonts that make for a fluent reading experience! 😂 I'm afarid that is a question only you can answer. 😉 And yet you were trying to push your answer onto another.... 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 7:27 PM, Keymaster.7362 said: I realy don't know why people keep this comparison, when the new system was clearly designed to avoid many problems of the IBS. The designers are no longer forced to cut the second half of a living story, at least 3 episodes, and to replace them with a bad and rushed 'champions' filler, because they have time pressure to make the next addon. You don't get 2/3 of the expansions in August, you get 1/4. The trimestial updates will all be bigger, with new maps, new story parts and maybe new masterys and other extras, even if we don't have many information for later updates at this moment. And all the updates are included in the addon price. You don't have to pay them afterwards, like with LS 2 zo IBS. if u think that this new model stops anet from changeing direction and abandon ideas or rush content or create delays u must be new here or u know something whats never heard of anet. Anet changing their mind is the only constant in this game 6 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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