Wolfyno.2704 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Kalavier.1097 said: If you actually used the correct terms, people would understand you. No runes are being deleted, the special effects that are going to Relics are coming in and we have to see which arrive and which don't. Likely we'll see some trim of similar bonuses and end up with "Summon, Passive, Elite skill use, etc" type relics. @Zebulon.1850 is right tho. Some runes with similar stats, but had different effects, are definitely gonna get deleted/removed either short or long-term. These 3 runes: Superior Rune of Fireworks, Superior Rune of Surging, and Superior Rune of the Pack share the SAME stats in their first 5 iterations, and only the 6th effect was different, with the last one including a stat bonus (precision), so I doubt seeing how these sets are about power and precision I am sure one of the first two will get removed ... if I understand what was posted. Sure they can put Power as the last stat in Fireworks and Ferocity in Surging ... but that would be redundant with 3 other rune sets that are all about power and ferocity .. basically, few runes will have to go. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idpersona.3810 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wolfyno.2704 said: @Zebulon.1850 is right tho. Some runes with similar stats, but had different effects, are definitely gonna get deleted/removed either short or long-term. These 3 runes: Superior Rune of Fireworks, Superior Rune of Surging, and Superior Rune of the Pack share the SAME stats in their first 5 iterations, and only the 6th effect was different, with the last one including a stat bonus (precision), so I doubt seeing how these sets are about power and precision I am sure one of the first two will get removed ... if I understand what was posted. Sure they can put Power as the last stat in Fireworks and Ferocity in Surging ... but that would be redundant with 3 other rune sets that are all about power and ferocity .. basically, few runes will have to go. As of now: Fireworks: (6): Gain 25% movement speed. Gain 6 stacks of Might, Fury and Vigor for 6 seconds while in combat. (Cooldown: 20 Seconds) Surging: (6): +25% Movement Speed; gain shocking aura for 4 seconds after using an elite skill. (Cooldown: 45 seconds) Pack: (6): +125 Precision; grant nearby allies 5 stacks of Might, Fury and Swiftness for 8 seconds while in combat. (Cooldown: 30 Seconds) So I believe they said Movement Speed it staying a Stat for these purposes. There will be some re-balancing, but nothing deleted. In the example you used, I'm thinking they will be: +25% Movement speed +125 Precision +125 Power and that still leaves room for a 4th (technically) different rune for Ferocity as its last bonus. I'm not saying this is a great setup, but I imagine this is what will be done. Edited August 21, 2023 by idpersona.3810 cleaned up some link text 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 most Relics sound awfully OP for WvW... Maybe they will be disabled there? I mean, arenanet loves endless/overextended fights anyways 🫤 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastagir.2146 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I just want to keep my 6th bonus and not have something activating after some elite skill. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 17 hours ago, idpersona.3810 said: They (Noah) seems to be equating the new Relic to the 7th "rune" in their example. But for anyone who has been up to date with this coming change, that sort of mixing and matching of terms is somewhat grating. It is also possible English isn't their first language. alright. this thread is just super confusing. It seems straight forward to me : There's 100 runes (stat sets), and therefor there will be 100 unique rune effects...give or take due to the whole anet adding new expansion runes, and them consolidating a few sets. Either way by the end of this we should still have roughly similiar number o. Any deviation from that expectation I think would be pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said: alright. this thread is just super confusing. It seems straight forward to me : There's 100 runes (stat sets), and therefor there will be 100 unique rune effects...give or take due to the whole anet adding new expansion runes, and them consolidating a few sets. Either way by the end of this we should still have roughly similiar number o. Any deviation from that expectation I think would be pretty bad. No Anet is not adding any expansion runes. They are adding 12 relics and 40 core relics so 59 of the currenct core runes wont have a relic with the same name. Edit And according to the new announcment it seems they will only add expansion relics going forward not core ones that they said they would. Edited August 22, 2023 by Linken.6345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Three relic choices per character seems plenty to me. I don't have more than 3 builds on any character. I'll pick the most fitting relics and craft a legendary one once that becomes available. No big drama. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Checked the relics - yep they've deleted runes, lol. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idpersona.3810 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Checked the relics - yep they've deleted runes, lol. Explain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon.1850 Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Well, I was right lol. They deleted and removed so many good things. Radiance is gone. All 10% hp bonus are gone. Antitoxin is useless now. Aristocracy deleted. 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idpersona.3810 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zebulon.1850 said: Well, I was right lol. They deleted and removed so many good things. Radiance is gone. All 10% hp bonus are gone. Antitoxin is useless now. Aristocracy deleted. Trying again....can you explain what you mean? Are you just saying there isn't a relic version of those (now former) 6th rune slot bonuses? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zebulon.1850 said: All 10% hp bonus are gone NOOOOOOOO!!! . . . oh welp, I play without pants anyways so no loss for me... Erm... My character wears no pants, no me... I do wear pants irl... 😐 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Zebulon.1850 said: Well, I was right lol. They deleted and removed so many good things. Radiance is gone. All 10% hp bonus are gone. Antitoxin is useless now. Aristocracy deleted. Can maybe provide a screenshot? I don’t know how the acquisition works and I’m not in game but maybe you can go to pvp and see what the story is there? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf.9150 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I'm willing to see how this all turns out, but I know there are some niche sets that I'm hoping we'll have relics to repeat. Like my wife loves Ravens that appear with her Mad King runes, and I want my Rock Dogs back from the Ogre set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 eww, all relics are awful to me... I want my Eagle bonus back 😭 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Arianth Moonlight.6453 said: NOOOOOOOO!!! . . . oh welp, I do wear pants irl... 😐 Prove it! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariurotl.3718 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Sheesh, most interesting things didn't make it to Relics. I can't even think of what to pick because everything is so BLAND. Gib muh Fireworks effect back. 5 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AresGuildwars.6372 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Also it seems that you need to buy the expansion to get the Relic Chest they announced to compensate the loss of the 6th rune. Old system was better. Don't get fooled into supporting those ppl anymore. Wayfarer's Reverie starts in 3 days. GW1 still better, good thing they stopped messing with that game years ago. 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) I read the wiki and it says that there’s 40 core relics, 12 expansion relics and that they will be rolling out more over time. This seems in line with what they’ve already said about releasing the expansion in increments so, I think they’ll make their way back to 100 in a few patches I guess now is just asking if the relic designs are interesting or not. Edited August 22, 2023 by JusticeRetroHunter.7684 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowfang.8529 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Fireworks runes equivalent is garbage now. The relic is sh... 80% relics are sh... 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlenaVolkova.8179 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I assume we just have to find the relic of the same name of our armor runes we're using, and get that passive effect we now lost back. Hopefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereath.1428 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, Crowfang.8529 said: Fireworks runes equivalent is garbage now. The relic is sh... 80% relics are sh... Ahaha wow ANET, thats exactly what I posted about in the other topic. And intentionally using Fireworks as an example, bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganogati.8963 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 So, people are kind of going back and forth, and I've lost track of what the actual change was. From what I'm understanding, is the situation that all runes will remain in the game but that their level 6 ability is removed? Ie, Rune of the Zephyrite no longer grants superspeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa.6793 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Oh yeah kinda all the relic effects are just garbage compared to old effects.. I don't want to pick any of them. Gimme back my fireworks. Edited August 22, 2023 by Ameepa.6793 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlenaVolkova.8179 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ganogati.8963 said: So, people are kind of going back and forth, and I've lost track of what the actual change was. From what I'm understanding, is the situation that all runes will remain in the game but that their level 6 ability is removed? Ie, Rune of the Zephyrite no longer grants superspeed? What seems to be is that they stripped the original 6th rune bonus and turn them into relics, then replace the 6th rune bonus with a stat instead, so I guess we just have to find relic that will restore our now lost rune bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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