trunks.5249 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Makuragee.3058 said: How dare anet you took my golem away! I want my personnal golem from my rune in a relic now! Its an insult to any asuran player! I NEED MY GOLEM NOW! Its been a part of my build for 11 years now, I dont care about your fancy new relic system if you dont give me my golem!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAARG!!! how dare you dont forget about my rock dog. lol. i was hoping they would have made it a relic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganogati.8963 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I mentioned this on another post, but Im betting its a balancing issue. There may have been concern that the summon relics would become quite powerful when paired with certain runes, whereas before the summons were tied only to specific runes that they knew wouldn't do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shufflepants.9785 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Ganogati.8963 said: I mentioned this on another post, but Im betting its a balancing issue. There may have been concern that the summon relics would become quite powerful when paired with certain runes, whereas before the summons were tied only to specific runes that they knew wouldn't do that. If that were the case, they could have merely nerfed the strength of the summons rather than removing them from the game entirely. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keymaster.7362 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Stx.4857 said: I find it almost impossible to believe that A-Net could be so short sighted that they would remove these rune bonuses without adding them as Relics. They have to have known how popular these were. Arenanet did clarify since the beginning, that they can't bring all relics from the start, and that they will add them bit by bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 wait, Golem is gone?! i haven't played in a few months (i usually pop in, complete the new world story content and vanish) i literally have an asuran golemancer who i play all around Golems, and you're telling me in an EXPANSION they've taken my content away?! wow anet...just wow. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganogati.8963 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shufflepants.9785 said: If that were the case, they could have merely nerfed the strength of the summons rather than removing them from the game entirely. It could be the case still, and they just didn't think anyone would be happy with it. Given the lashback, if its true then they may shift gears and give those to us in relics in the future. I've noticed a lot of players on here are very function oriented, not really caring about environmental or aesthetic stuff (pushback on development into houses, new skins, etc etc), and honestly those summons were already so weak they could have just been like "if we nerf this any further it'll be totally useless", not remembering that some people play for more than just big numbers and would have their builds ruined by it. Honestly, I'm hoping that I'm right simply because it may end up following your suggestion after the reaction they've gotten so far. Edited August 22, 2023 by Ganogati.8963 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks.5249 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, Ganogati.8963 said: It could be the case still, and they just didn't think anyone would be happy with it. Given the lashback, if its true then they may shift gears and give those to us in relics in the future. I've noticed a lot of players on here are very function oriented, not really caring about environmental or aesthetic stuff (pushback on development into houses, new skins, etc etc), and honestly those summons were already so weak they could have just been like "if we nerf this any further it'll be totally useless", not remember some people play for more than just big numbers. Honestly, I'm hoping that I'm right simply because it may end up following your suggestion after the reaction they've gotten so far. i would bet money most people got the rock dog or the golem because they were fun to play with rather than what stat in increased. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganogati.8963 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, trunks.5249 said: i would bet money most people got the rock dog or the golem because they were fun to play with rather than what stat in increased. Honestly, I agree. I would have. I never thought about those runes before now, but now that folks have been talking about them, all I can think is "Man... that rock dog woulda looked cool on my elementalist. Kind of wish I had run that before". Im sorry they're gone. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 My guess is that the summoning 6 tier bonuses will be part of legendary relics... should have been released as one complete system 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Remove them from Core, add them back as SotO-only to get people to buy expansion? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks.5249 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, DeanBB.4268 said: Remove them from Core, add them back as SotO-only to get people to buy expansion? they are not in the expansion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 They will be adding SotO-relics later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf.9150 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I just miss my Rock Dogs, they were part of two of my characters’ backstories and not just a combat tool, and my wife built her character’s story around the ravens summed by the Mad King set. I hope they release the relics for those soon (they should have been in the free sets). 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks.5249 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, AzureWolf.9150 said: I just miss my Rock Dogs, they were part of two of my characters’ backstories and not just a combat tool, and my wife built her character’s story around the ravens summed by the Mad King set. I hope they release the relics for those soon (they should have been in the free sets). 100% agree they should have. me i used the rock dog with my ranger cool to have two pets out 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzik.5873 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, AzureWolf.9150 said: I just miss my Rock Dogs, they were part of two of my characters’ backstories and not just a combat tool, and my wife built her character’s story around the ravens summed by the Mad King set. I hope they release the relics for those soon (they should have been in the free sets). My main name is literally Zzik the Golemancer, he was my buddy, my little golem... I use him since the very first time I found out about the existence of the rune. Hes been with me for 9 years... 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknomancer.4895 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, AzureWolf.9150 said: I just miss my Rock Dogs, they were part of two of my characters’ backstories and not just a combat tool, and my wife built her character’s story around the ravens summed by the Mad King set. I hope they release the relics for those soon (they should have been in the free sets). With any luck, the Mad King one will be reissued for the Halloween event. Probably not free to replace what was already there, but if that one comes back, that's the time it will happen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stx.4857 said: I find it almost impossible to believe that A-Net could be so short sighted that they would remove these rune bonuses without adding them as Relics. They have to have known how popular these were. Nothing to do with shortsightedness, they were intended as huge nerfs to all the rune buffs. Take the Runes of Dwayna for example, they had increased maximum health bonus, increased regeneration effectiveness and increased regeneration durations but now the Relic of Dwayna gives only increased regeneration effectiveness, that's it. A huge nerf. Glad that I didn't buy SotO. Booo. Edited August 23, 2023 by Sugar Min.5834 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I both loved and hated the Golem. I even made a little lore to include it in my gameplay... 😢 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf.9150 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Teknomancer.4895 said: With any luck, the Mad King one will be reissued for the Halloween event. Probably not free to replace what was already there, but if that one comes back, that's the time it will happen. I was thinking that too. Something new to buy with corncobs 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deffy.1320 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/22/2023 at 11:39 PM, Liewec.2896 said: wait, Golem is gone?! i haven't played in a few months (i usually pop in, complete the new world story content and vanish) i literally have an asuran golemancer who i play all around Golems, and you're telling me in an EXPANSION they've taken my content away?! wow anet...just wow. They obviously don't like us having fun, now i had a Charr warrior and he is a tiger pirate got the peg leg and everything and of course for the hilarity fun factor i had privateer runes on, because he gets to shout YAAArrrrhhh and has a loyal parrot that will come and help him, or he did have, now left sobbing in DR, we have had these runes for years in game how dare they destroy RP i wont be pre ordering ever again. Edited August 24, 2023 by deffy.1320 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynder.2509 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 People actually ran these? Well, I know for certain the golem was used for a certain mechanist build but not anymore. These runes were absolute trash from the start. That's also why snowcrows or hardstruck not used them in their builds. Especially since you can't control these things and they would end up pulling stuff in or make the boss focus them instead of the stacked group. This is also why minions on necro suck. A ranger pet you can at least set to passive (which 90% of ranger players don't seem to know as it seems) just like the mech but everything else is out of control and that's why usually rangers (especially longbow rangers who spam knockback and have no idea how to put the kitten bear to passive) and necros ended up getting kicked from groups instantly. I really hate the relic design btw and what they did to monk and torment runes. How am I supposed to play my qdps harbinger and hfb or druid now. Especially with api down so I can't check snowcrows to update all my builds. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, deffy.1320 said: i had a Charr warrior and he is a tiger pirate got the peg leg and everything and of course for the hilarity fun factor i had privateer runes on, because he gets to shout YAAArrrrhhh and has a loyal parrot that will come and help him, or he did have, now left sobbing in DR ouch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, Cynder.2509 said: People actually ran these? Well, I know for certain the golem was used for a certain mechanist build but not anymore. These runes were absolute trash from the start. That's also why snowcrows or hardstruck not used them in their builds. Especially since you can't control these things and they would end up pulling stuff in or make the boss focus them instead of the stacked group. This is also why minions on necro suck. A ranger pet you can at least set to passive (which 90% of ranger players don't seem to know as it seems) just like the mech but everything else is out of control and that's why usually rangers (especially longbow rangers who spam knockback and have no idea how to put the kitten bear to passive) and necros ended up getting kicked from groups instantly. There's more to this game than the meta, instanced content, and group dynamics. Anet has apparently forgotten that. 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/22/2023 at 2:36 PM, starhunter.6015 said: I want a refund of dungeon tokens for the Runes of Golemancy. I'm curious, what would you do with the dungeon tokens? Edited August 24, 2023 by Gibson.4036 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DeanBB.4268 said: There's more to this game than the meta, instanced content, and group dynamics. Anet has apparently forgotten that. The golem was probably at its most annoying -to other players- in regular ow gameplay. Edited August 24, 2023 by Sobx.1758 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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