how to fight necros on shrout?

[kima.3045]

they do the syth attack that spins  and just insta kill....  how you fight a necro?

[JusticeRetroHunter.7684]

2 hours ago, kima.3045 said:

they do the syth attack that spins  and just insta kill....  how you fight a necro?

The counter to reaper is to kite…kite meaning you simply walk away from the reaper. 
 

Good reapers know this is their strongest weakness and will bring a range weapon, some skills to slow you down, and/or take skills to make themselves more mobile. 
 

Most reapers aren’t that good so with that knowledge you should be fine

side note: Reaper 4 is not an insta kill. It’s actually pretty weak and if a reaper opens in shroud with this its a sign they aren’t that good. A pro reaper will simply 1,1,1 you and save reaper 4 to either kitten ur heal or they will use it if you manage to kite out and they have no mobility to land anything else.

 

Edited September 4, 2023 by JusticeRetroHunter.7684

[Dadnir.5038]

Once a reaper is in shroud his abilities are "limited". No more stun break, no more cleanse (unless they are traited for that specifically). You just have to capitalize accordingly on these 2 points. Hard CC, boon rip and blind are sure way to make them consider going out of shroud.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Dadnir.5038

[Arheundel.6451]

49 minutes ago, JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:

The counter to reaper is to kite…kite meaning you simply walk away from the reaper. 
 

Good reapers know this is their strongest weakness and will bring a range weapon, some skills to slow you down, and/or take skills to make themselves more mobile. 
 

Most reapers aren’t that good so with that knowledge you should be fine

side note: Reaper 4 is not an insta kill. It’s actually pretty weak and if a reaper opens in shroud with this its a sign they aren’t that good. A pro reaper will simply 1,1,1 you and save reaper 4 to either kitten ur heal or they will use it if you manage to kite out and they have no mobility to land anything else.

 

Forgot to mention: 

Copius access to chill/cripple,  they all use speed relic, F1 dash under quickness can easily catch up, quickness removes casting delays from shout skill with over 340 radius, some will use GS pull after forcing dodges, axe necro 2 can crit upward of 7k dmg and there is no animation like most of the necro toolkit, devoid of casting animation ......some professions/specs have a real hard time vs reaper

[Arheundel.6451]

1 minute ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

Once a reaper is in shroud his abilities are "limited". No more stun break, no more cleanse (unless they are traited for that specifically). You just have to capitalize accordingly on these 2 points. Hard CC, boon rip and blind are sure way to make them suffer.

And stability on shroud plus quickness making it easy to land shroud 5 aoe CC, all this on a 10s CD which reduce dmg by 50% 

[Arheundel.6451]

It's easier to fight 2 x deadeyes plus a soulbeast or mesmer at the same time....than a half decent necro player, given how bloated and UNNERFED is their toolkit, literally received negligible to zero significant nerfs since 2020, even the hard hitting skills lile axe 2 got spared by Feb2020 power dmg nerfs....a 900 range no animation, no path attack on target doing upward of 7k dmg

[Dadnir.5038]

1 hour ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

even the hard hitting skills lile axe 2 got spared by Feb2020 power dmg nerfs....a 900 range no animation, no path attack on target doing upward of 7k dmg

Sure, they didn't nerf the skill, they just had the coefficient going down from 0.5 to 0.33. And a character extending it's hand with a axe spining is absolutely not an animation.

[Arheundel.6451]

2 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

Sure, they didn't nerf the skill, they just had the coefficient going down from 0.5 to 0.33. And a character extending it's hand with a axe spining is absolutely not an animation.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ghastly_Claws

Are you sure about that? A 1.33 coefficient is for Dragon's tooth and that thing got a huge kittening animation of a whole meteorite hovering on you for 2s before dropping...and that still got gutted to the ground....but sure a hand wave can be considered just as effective....sarcasm off

 

[Burnfall.9573]

here is as 6 years old guide to fight a Necromancer Profession-Reaper

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/68d06k/teaching_you_how_to_fight_reaper_in_wvw/

 

[Dadnir.5038]

1 hour ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ghastly_Claws

Are you sure about that? A 1.33 coefficient is for Dragon's tooth and that thing got a huge kittening animation of a whole meteorite hovering on you for 2s before dropping...and that still got gutted to the ground....but sure a hand wave can be considered just as effective....sarcasm off

The elementalist do have advantage that compensate the disadvantages you are focusing on. I shouldn't need to teach you about the advantages of the elementalist, right? Even if we don't consider class, I shouldn't need to have to teach you about the pros and cons of a channeled skill over a "cast and forget" skill, right?

In fact, I think the bigest issue is that, in general, you tend to compare apples and oranges all while neglecting the unique contexts in which they revolve, and show those as proofs that your indignation is justified. This is really something you have to work on, you need to accept that comparing different things existing within different contexts just don't lead an argument anywhere.

[Bazsi.2734]

2 hours ago, Burnfall.9573 said:

here is as 6 years old guide to fight a Necromancer Profession-Reaper

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/68d06k/teaching_you_how_to_fight_reaper_in_wvw/

 

And if we know something about guides in MMO-s, it's that the older they are the better they are. If possible get a guide from pre-release, can't possibly go wrong with that one!

Edited September 4, 2023 by Bazsi.2734

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

9 hours ago, Burnfall.9573 said:

here is as 6 years old guide to fight a Necromancer Profession-Reaper

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/68d06k/teaching_you_how_to_fight_reaper_in_wvw/

 

He just doesn't miss

Its incredible

 

As much as I'd like to see Burnfall defend reaper as energetically as he opposes thief, he's right.  Reapers fine. Walk away from it and the moment they drop shroud you have 10 seconds to make them worry.  Alternatively, watch their bar for stab from infusing terror in shroud, then interrupt them when it expires.  Most Reapers Ive fought dont expect people to be ready to cc them the instant their skill 3 expires.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Azure The Heartless.3261

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

13 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

It's easier to fight 2 x deadeyes plus a soulbeast or mesmer at the same time....than a half decent necro player, given how bloated and UNNERFED is their toolkit, literally received negligible to zero significant nerfs since 2020, even the hard hitting skills lile axe 2 got spared by Feb2020 power dmg nerfs....a 900 range no animation, no path attack on target doing upward of 7k dmg

Come now, keep that same energy you have for the other classes people want axed. This one is fine too.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

Kite Reapers when they are in shroud. CC chain them if you can't.

[Eddie.9143]

Kite, cc, run away in shroud. As soon as the shroud falls off, burst! If they use their heal with blood bond to barrier, wait more to burst.

[WhoWantsAHug.3186]

Don't get hit by elite, don't get hit by shroud skills, take condi cleanse, take heavy CC, pewpew from ranged. 

[Eddbopkins.2630]

Distance. Shroud skills are over powered for sure.

[Spellhunter.9675]

On 9/4/2023 at 12:16 PM, Arheundel.6451 said:

And stability on shroud plus quickness making it easy to land shroud 5 aoe CC, all this on a 10s CD which reduce dmg by 50% 

You should at least read some wiki before posting kitten on the forum.

[Arheundel.6451]

6 hours ago, Spellhunter.9675 said:

You should at least read some wiki before posting kitten on the forum.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaper's_Shroud  

Consider your current level of understanding in general before opening the browser....but before that you could read your own class skill description....even if not strictly necessary to succeed....you are a clear example of that 

P.S

The fact somebody even reacted to your post....a testament to the whole charade in gw2

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Arheundel.6451

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

29 minutes ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaper's_Shroud  

Consider your current level of understanding in general before opening the browser....but before that you could read your own class skill description....even if not strictly necessary to succeed....you are a clear example of that 

P.S

The fact somebody even reacted to your post....a testament to the whole charade in gw2

 

Kind of like how not to long ago a bunch of Reapers were QQ'ing about having no defense. Like, do you not read the effects of the profession mechanic and it's skills and supporting traits?

[Spellhunter.9675]

14 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaper's_Shroud  

Consider your current level of understanding in general before opening the browser....but before that you could read your own class skill description....even if not strictly necessary to succeed....you are a clear example of that 

P.S

The fact somebody even reacted to your post....a testament to the whole charade in gw2

 

My level of understanding allows me to understand that shroud 5 is a single target CC, shroud 5 and stab are not on 10 sec CD.

But I believe forum warrior will use powerful mental gymnastics to tell me that I don't understand deepest level of forum shitposting.

[kima.3045]

well, they to the spinning sith skill and they just rush directly to me... and well i die =(

 

 

or if they have piston the lunch the green goo.... and i don't know how that is so powerful.... (i try to LOS if i can )