How viable do you thing mace will be?

[asterix.9614]

Apart from staff, what elite spec weapon has ever been viable in wvw roaming for ranger? Everything either simmers down to power lb+gs or druid staff+ core weapon. Why is everything we get so bad that we can only be viable playing the same old style everytime. I am afraid that mace will be equally bad, and just another weapon that can be ticked off the box of things the ranger "can use", but is a pile of 💩 

[Beddo.1907]

No idea, since we know nothing about it.

However I see no point in doom calling right away.

[MalekithDG.6124]

Does it matter?

Even if it puts ranger on top of the roaming food chain it. does. not. matter. WvW is now officially confirmed to be abandoned. Content drought for years and years with no hope for future and its consistently getting worse...

They have absolutely no idea how to balance their game and there are no incentives to play the gamemode let alone winning it. Even if rangers suddenly becomes a blast to play and Tier 1 you will still be doing the same thing you were doing before. Roaming is a rotting job in a rotting gamemode. Not to mention ranger is not guardian, they wont even blink an eye in regards to nerfing... As soon as you become popular they will bring down the nerf hammer while willbender, ever since it launched, popping the kitten off.

There are things in game that requires hotfix level of attention from devs and they are completely dominating the game... If their way of solving these, from the viewpoint of ranger, is by releasing an ubiquitous weapon then no thanks. I would rather have a complete rework of ranger and its unique, outdated mechanic than get a new shiny weapon that will be overused much like gs/lb.

[Gotejjeken.1267]

I suspect Mace mainhand will be power, as we only have sword for 1H power (dagger is condi and axe is hybrid). 

Mace offhand should be support in terms of block/blind/aegis or something.  The offhand would also have the CC capability as that's the case for all other ranger offhands (sans torch).  

[Fueki.4753]

At the very least, I assume hey will be more viable than Warrior's maces.

[conquistator.6549]

Given the recent track record of the balancing and spec (EoD) onwards, my expectation is mace’s going to be total useless with no practical use and is only there just as a tick box for Soto.

[BumboJumbo.1308]

All the elite spec weapons have been viable recently:

Untamed with mainhand dagger

Untamed with hammer

Druid with hammer/staff

I'm sure people will come up with more builds with hammer/staff/mainhand dagger as time goes on.

[Jungario.6485]

I hope main hand mace will be nature magic range weapon, not melee. Anet, lets suprise us! You dont want to give us rifle, give us something uniqe with this maces.

[Draeyon.4392]

I'm hoping that they're AoE range skills (or cleave type skills if they are set on more melee weapons) No single target nonsense, ranger has plenty of that already.

Something like rev hammer or mace.

[Ehecatl.9172]

On 9/22/2023 at 12:29 AM, Draeyon.4392 said:

I'm hoping that they're AoE range skills (or cleave type skills if they are set on more melee weapons) No single target nonsense, ranger has plenty of that already.

Something like rev hammer or mace.

It'd be cool if the maces were used more like drums. Pounding the earth to stir up nature spirits to attack nearby enemies or something.

It'll probably just be cracking heads with furious melee strikes, but one can hope for a little more variety in the ranger arsenal.

[kharmin.7683]

I don't expect it to be viable at all for me.  But, then again, I typically do not run with whatever the popular meta build(s) are.  I'm not a fan of this weapon for ranger, so I will probably never use it.  /shrug

[Dredsh.2360]

 

45 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said:

I don't expect it to be viable at all for me.  But, then again, I typically do not run with whatever the popular meta build(s) are.  I'm not a fan of this weapon for ranger, so I will probably never use it.  /shrug

good 🙂 , not all things are meant to be liked by everyone

[kharmin.7683]

15 hours ago, Dredsh.2360 said:

 

good 🙂 , not all things are meant to be liked by everyone

I agree and that's fine as long as Anet doesn't make some choices irrelevant in favor or newer choices by the design of the content.

[Teknomancer.4895]

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How viable do you thing mace will be?

How viable do you think mace will be?

FTFY

[Eekasqueak.7850]

I'm assuming all the weapons they add will be pretty good so they can be a selling point for the expansion. 

[draxynnic.3719]

It will be somewhere between god emperor-tier and uninstall tier, inclusive. Beyond that we can't really say.

As an educated guess, though, there's a good chance it will be defense/support/CC-oriented since most maces are, and thus be a bit of a niche weapon (albeit possibly welcome because it's a niche that existing ranger weapons don't really fill). But they might surprise us.

[WastedYears.8934]

Ranger doesn’t have a “spin” melee damage skill yet.

So mace off hand will be a spin skill which will totally serve no purpose or add anything to any ranger builds.

And yes I have 0 faith in Anet when it comes to ranger.

[Fueki.4753]

14 minutes ago, WastedYears.8934 said:

Ranger doesn’t have a “spin” melee damage skill yet.

While not spinning your character (unless I misremember the animation), Whirling Defense (Axe 5) counts towards that kind of ability and has a Whirling Finisher.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Fueki.4753

[WastedYears.8934]

Thnx for pointing that out. 

maybe it will be a CC spin skill then where it sucks players in like a tornado instead of knock back

[kiwituatara.6053]

I hope they make our maces focused on smashing the ground generating aoe craters. It would be nice to see some offensive ranger builds in WvW Zerg scene.

[kharmin.7683]

1 hour ago, kiwituatara.6053 said:

I hope they make our maces focused on smashing the ground generating aoe craters. It would be nice to see some offensive ranger builds in WvW Zerg scene.

I thought that was what the latest sword changes were supposed to bring.  More offense/DPS

[zeyeti.8347]

As many weapons don't act like in  reality it could also be a healing weapon , a range dps weapon or a melee one , seeing mesmer with Gs being 1200 range , cata with mid range hammer, ranger with infinite pockets of throwing axes , it could be everything .

[draxynnic.3719]

8 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said:

As many weapons don't act like in  reality it could also be a healing weapon , a range dps weapon or a melee one , seeing mesmer with Gs being 1200 range , cata with mid range hammer, ranger with infinite pockets of throwing axes , it could be everything .

Cata hammer is melee for all intents and purposes. Calling it 'midrange' is a gross exaggeration of its ranged capabilities, especially given the sluggish projectile speeds.

I also wouldn't expect a relatively low-magic profession like ranger to have something like mesmer greatsword. Not impossible, mind you, but unlikely.

The most likely possibility is something broadly similar to maces on other professions. This is a group that includes the warrior offhand mace shockwave and all the revenant stuff, though. So 'nature magic powered close range AoE' is certainly a possibility.

[Beddo.1907]

Option 1
It does 50k dps and gives 100% full boon uptime.
Option 2
It heals enemies and boon strips your team.

Both are as valid, with the info we have.

[zeyeti.8347]

20 hours ago, draxynnic.3719 said:

Cata hammer is melee for all intents and purposes. Calling it 'midrange' is a gross exaggeration of its ranged capabilities, especially given the sluggish projectile speeds.

I also wouldn't expect a relatively low-magic profession like ranger to have something like mesmer greatsword. Not impossible, mind you, but unlikely.

The most likely possibility is something broadly similar to maces on other professions. This is a group that includes the warrior offhand mace shockwave and all the revenant stuff, though. So 'nature magic powered close range AoE' is certainly a possibility.

Didn't say it is well designed , but half of his skills are mid range, i know they are bad , but it is mid range.

Ranger can throw axes so he would be able to throw maces , gs for mesmer is just an example that the first weapon use in mind of all ppl (me include) is not what it is in this game , if you speek about a greatsword or zweihander first thing in mind is close up combat with slashing skills.