Chyro.1462 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 8/28/2024 at 7:52 AM, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said: that example, warcraft was a real time strategy game and not an mmo, and world of warcraft is an mmo but of course has no sequel and the playerbase didnt want to make a new one, not a very good comparison,. Thats like saying i bought final fantasy 1 so therefore i should get ffxiv, its rediculous. path of exile is also a terrible example, since its also not an mmo, and not comparable to this conversation at all. So their argument is invalid because warcraft and WoW aren't the same genre, thus can't be considered sequels and don't count as example for an older game being abandoned after the new one came out? Well gw1 is a COrpg unlike gw2 that is an MMOrpg, then it also doesn't count for your argument. Since they're not the same genre of game they can't be sequels 😄 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 8/28/2024 at 11:08 AM, Biziut.3594 said: ANet could have not done any of that, and They could charge for everything from the beginning, They didn't, so thats enough a gift for me. You're completely missing the point... It's not entitlement to expect some appreciation, that's like telling your wife she's not getting anything because you spent the entire year fixing the house and working on her car. It's not about giving EVERYONE a free gift either, it's about looking at the people that made a character in 2012 and giving THOSE people something to look at, it could be just a balloon, anything you can show off and point at to say "yeah, I've been playing this game for 12 years" considering in years pass we got a special chair (pose rock) and infinite birthday cake, getting nothing to look at for years in a row does suck in a game that's ultimately all about getting stuff to show off. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) The best BDay anniversary present is the 8th year, after that it went down hill faster than Jack and Jill. They even stopped giving you Titles from the 11th year onwards >.> Before, every year I looked forward to receiving these presents but this year my 12th anniversary being on the first week of Sep, today I have yet to login to my main to collect the gifts knowing they sux big time. Bleh. Edited September 21 by Sugar Min.5834 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yttris.2945 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 8/24/2024 at 5:18 PM, Obnoxa.6702 said: ... and pray to Kormir whoever said "Queen Jennah feet pics" wasn't dropping a spoiler. I can see it being a 5 gold junk item "Yeah, I'm sure you just *happened* to find this..." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 4 hours ago, Dean Calaway.9718 said: You're completely missing the point... It's not entitlement to expect some appreciation, that's like telling your wife she's not getting anything because you spent the entire year fixing the house and working on her car. It's not about giving EVERYONE a free gift either, it's about looking at the people that made a character in 2012 and giving THOSE people something to look at, it could be just a balloon, anything you can show off and point at to say "yeah, I've been playing this game for 12 years" considering in years pass we got a special chair (pose rock) and infinite birthday cake, getting nothing to look at for years in a row does suck in a game that's ultimately all about getting stuff to show off. why? whats so special about 12 years? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian.9741 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 They should just give us 1g per year in the present. Grandma always used to send me money and I could buy whatever I wanted. 🙂 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltaicbore.8012 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 8/28/2024 at 12:52 AM, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said: path of exile is also a terrible example, since its also not an mmo, and not comparable to this conversation at all. Good point. Then again, you also insisted that the GW2 community is stupid for not holding Anet to the same standards as gacha players do for their games, so I guess logic only matters to you when it serves your agenda (of just dooming on the game). None of the other MMOs I've played really gave any anniversary gifts worth remembering, and I can't remember a single one that gave character-based birthday gifts at all. Because of this, I'm fine with what Anet has chosen to give us. I wouldn't oppose getting more, but that doesn't mean I need to agree that Anet is doing any of us an active disservice by keeping things the way they are.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obnoxa.6702 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Yttris.2945 said: I can see it being a 5 gold junk item "Yeah, I'm sure you just *happened* to find this..." Well when you put it that way, now I kind of want to see that happen just for the lulz - but only if the vendor says that when you turn it in... 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, Bladestrom.6425 said: why? whats so special about 12 years? If you had a wife, you'd know. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biziut.3594 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) 21 hours ago, Dean Calaway.9718 said: You're completely missing the point... It's not entitlement to expect some appreciation, that's like telling your wife she's not getting anything because you spent the entire year fixing the house and working on her car. You compare two diffrent things. You bought a product from ANet, You have the right to use it, ANet job is to mantain it. Thats what I expect Them to do, additional free vanity trinkets are nice touch but they are unnecessery. You made a deal, You get what You paid for. You have a right to "expect" to get something more, but You have no right to demand it, nor being angry when Your "expectations" aren't met. It is ANet free will if They choose to give You a gift. Plus imho, if You force someone to give You a gift... than it's not really a gift. As for Your misguided comparison. Your wife is not a product... at least I hope so. xd Look at this terms below, and take them to Your heart. You repairing a house is a (Work), You do work to eighter earn (Money), or (It's Your own kitten house, if You want to live in the dump than it's on You) You repairing Your wife car is (Work) and eighter a (Favor) or a (Deal) depending on what You and Your wife have established. If it's Your (Favor) for Her than You might (Expect) something in return, but You are in no right to (Demand) anything. You are in position to make (Demands) if You and Your wife made a (Deal) that she will give You something in return. You see that the above have nothing to do with (Gifts). You do not recive (Gifts) from Your loved ones becouse You are (Expecting) them, nor becouse You are (Demanding) them. You recive (Gifts) becouse You are (Loved and Appreciated). Relationship between You and ANet is a (Deal). They do (Work), You give (Money). In return You get a (Product). A thing that so great many peoples are mistaking for (Work). You are playing and probably enjoying a game, a product that You bought made by strangers that do not have a responsibility to have a relationship with You, let alone give You a free gifts. Their (Work) is maintaining a game to earn (Money), thus, You should be thankful that You get any (Gifts) at all. I know I am. 21 hours ago, Dean Calaway.9718 said: It's not about giving EVERYONE a free gift either, it's about looking at the people that made a character in 2012 and giving THOSE people something to look at, it could be just a balloon, anything you can show off and point at to say "yeah, I've been playing this game for 12 years" considering in years pass we got a special chair (pose rock) and infinite birthday cake, getting nothing to look at for years in a row does suck in a game that's ultimately all about getting stuff to show off. I made character in 2012, what I look for is not some baloon I can wave to show of. It's the content I play, lore I learn, friends I make. 21 hours ago, Dean Calaway.9718 said: a game that's ultimately all about getting stuff to show off. Yes, and the "Getting" part is what makes the game alive, plus the things I mentioned above this quote, the main meal and the cake. "Stuff to show off" is just the cherry on the top of this cake. If the game would consist only from the free gifted stuff to show off, without the gameplay to earn it, You would end up with a "beautiful cherry... but also with empty belly" and the game would fall faster than Concord. ^^ Edited September 22 by Biziut.3594 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 9/21/2024 at 7:25 PM, Dean Calaway.9718 said: If you had a wife, you'd know. been married for 26, guess we missed the message. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tula.6021 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 8/25/2024 at 1:47 AM, Jumpin Lumpix.6108 said: skins for vets only, legendarys for vets only, infusions for vets only, mounts for vets only, none of it buyable. Rewarded on a yearly basis (or more frequently) due to supporting/playing the game for so long. You can even base it on playtime or simply the age of the account, or achievement points. If anything then, on real money spent in the account. That's what pays the bills, not achievemtn points. As already the second comment summarised it: No you don't get vet only stuff anymore, for a good reason. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 12 hours ago, Bladestrom.6425 said: been married for 26, guess we missed the message. Indeed message missed, that explains your comments, mystery solved 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulous.2934 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Powercreep in birthday rewards is a bad thing. A new player would see even the eighth year birthday reward and say to themselves, "that's something cool that I will never get." Players aren't used to being able to leave a game and come back years later. Many would assume that they would play for two years, grow bored, then leave never to return. I certainly want useful things every year, I don't think it is a good idea to lock rewards behind distant milestones. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 That's a good thing tho, an early indicator to let players know that the game is massive, no one will ever get everything and that it's better to find and focus on the things you enjoy rather than worry so much about what other ppls have . . . Besides which we've done so much to make it easy for new players to "catch up" it was nice to have a token reminder that the ppls who slog through it all the hard way weren't forgotten . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy.3728 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 (edited) 16 hours ago, Zebulous.2934 said: A new player would see even the eighth year birthday reward and say to themselves, "that's something cool that I will never get." I certainly want useful things every year, I don't think it is a good idea to lock rewards behind distant milestones. Yeah agreed. But a new title every now and then wouldn't hurt. Rainbow colored for eye kitten on 18th birthday then. 🌈 edit: lol, how c.ancer is censored. It's a star sign too for god's sake. Edited September 24 by Lucy.3728 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 No thank you for the rainbow colored anything. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy.3728 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 58 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: No thank you for the rainbow colored anything. no one wants eye c ancer -.- 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I've given up on the birthdays after the 10th, and I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. They're so insignificant now. The rewards are intentionally mild so as not to alienate new players. Would I have liked to receive a free gen 1 account-bound legendary for the 10th or 12th? Sure. Is it the end of the world if I don't get that? Hell no. Honestly the only reason I look forward to the birthdays now is to get the next crazy dye color. The rest of the items are just... there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 9/21/2024 at 1:03 PM, Dean Calaway.9718 said: anything you can show off and point at to say "yeah, I've been playing this game for 12 years" Common misconception on this forum. Bday gifts aren't telling anyone "I've been playing this game for x years", they're saying "I've created a character x years ago". 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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