Ayakaru.6583 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Germany and France are legible for the participation in the trophy rewards,but the rest of europe isn't? this has to be a typo, right?what legislation is different in the netherlands, belgium, spain, etc, from these two?Well, I live in the part of netherlands with a german heritage, so I identify as a german when the lots are drawn :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 See the Dev posts in the 'official' thread (or the Dev Carousel/Dev Tracker).Not sure what the 'trophy rewards' are, but in-game rewards are available to everyone; Sweepstakes to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaralyna.3104 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 The reason that some countries are excluded in the sweepstake is due to laws... In the case of the Dutch (I am among): According to Dutch law, an individual may not receive more than 2,500 Euros in total prizes. And the total amount of prizes for an entire promotion prize pool cannot exceed 100,000 Euros. The sweepstake has prizes incl Buggy Tour > Estimated ARV: $10,000USD. And they don't even mention the value of winning the car but I assume its not low either so the total prize pool may actually exceed the 100,000 Euro's. I do not know what the currency rate is of USD to Euro atm tho. Next to that you will have to add taxes to import i.e the car.As for the heritage, where I live it has been French, Spanish, German, Roman territory in past. This won't make any change as in current state we are Dutch by law :P (p.s. Germans living in Netherlands on paper are also excluded in this sweepstake).Bottom line: Anet is in its right to exclude these countries, NL included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 @Aaralyna.3104 said:The reason that some countries are excluded in the sweepstake is due to laws... In the case of the Dutch (I am among): According to Dutch law, an individual may not receive more than 2,500 Euros in total prizes. And the total amount of prizes for an entire promotion prize pool cannot exceed 100,000 Euros. The sweepstake has prizes incl Buggy Tour > Estimated ARV: $10,000USD. And they don't even mention the value of winning the car but I assume its not low either so the total prize pool may actually exceed the 100,000 Euro's. I do not know what the currency rate is of USD to Euro atm tho. Next to that you will have to add taxes to import i.e the car.As for the heritage, where I live it has been French, Spanish, German, Roman territory in past. This won't make any change as in current state we are Dutch by law :P (p.s. Germans living in Netherlands on paper are also excluded in this sweepstake).Bottom line: Anet is in its right to exclude these countries, NL included.That makes sense, i guess.Didn't know about the 2500 prize max.But then we should be able to join the roll for the computer. A powerhouse gaming pc costs a bit over a 1000, 1500 if you go fancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holykitten.3064 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 The rules are what they are.I’m pretty sure Anets legal team covered all bases, and included all countries that could have been with this particular sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 @Aaralyna.3104 said:The reason that some countries are excluded in the sweepstake is due to laws... In the case of the Dutch (I am among): According to Dutch law, an individual may not receive more than 2,500 Euros in total prizes. And the total amount of prizes for an entire promotion prize pool cannot exceed 100,000 Euros. The sweepstake has prizes incl Buggy Tour > Estimated ARV: $10,000USD. And they don't even mention the value of winning the car but I assume its not low either so the total prize pool may actually exceed the 100,000 Euro's. I do not know what the currency rate is of USD to Euro atm tho. Next to that you will have to add taxes to import i.e the car.As for the heritage, where I live it has been French, Spanish, German, Roman territory in past. This won't make any change as in current state we are Dutch by law :P (p.s. Germans living in Netherlands on paper are also excluded in this sweepstake).Bottom line: Anet is in its right to exclude these countries, NL included.Car has a starting price of $20,895 USD according to VW's website and that is before a bunch of other stuff that is going to increase the price further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 From the documentation: Grand Prize – One (1) Winner will receive a choice of a custom skinned 2019 VW Beetle (ARV: $30,000USD) or $20,000USD cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaralyna.3104 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Ahh thanks Inculpatus, I couldn't find that one on the site.Ayakuru, the pc wasn't that cheap either. But then still the total prize pool value remains above Dutch max as you have to count up all prizes given out during the promo :)We cannot change this sweepstake's availability, neither can Anet as they have to go by individual country laws (even regional ones). I don't even blame them. We should just be gratefull that some players are able to win such valuable prices, and that anyone outside of those countries got the free living world episode (for ones that didn't log, its still worth 200 gem) and the new race tracks with its in game rewards. If you want to complain it has to be against your countries government :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khayoss.7621 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I wish I could live in Europe...contests and prizes be damned. :/ :/ :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrother.1340 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Khayoss.7621 said:I wish I could live in Europe...contests and prizes be damned. :/ :/ :/ Is there something stopping you from living there? Money? Time? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khayoss.7621 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @jbrother.1340 said:@Khayoss.7621 said:I wish I could live in Europe...contests and prizes be damned. :/ :/ :/ Is there something stopping you from living there? Money? Time? Just curious.I guess it's having the money to relocate, making sure I had employment, and the immigration process as a US citizen. It's just been a year's long dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Ayakaru.6583 said:Germany and France are legible for the participation in the trophy rewards,but the rest of europe isn't?Who said so? Please read the news that listed all eligible countries. Mine is in there, and it's neither Germany nor France. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Ashantara.8731 said:@Ayakaru.6583 said:Germany and France are legible for the participation in the trophy rewards,but the rest of europe isn't?Who said so? Please read the news that listed all eligible countries. Mine is in there, and it's neither Germany nor France. ;)Shhhh your country is just a myth then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Ashantara.8731 said:@Ayakaru.6583 said:Germany and France are legible for the participation in the trophy rewards,but the rest of europe isn't?Who said so? Please read the news that listed all eligible countries. Mine is in there, and it's neither Germany nor France. ;)Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Finland, France, Germany, New Zealand, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, the United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) and the 50 United States (including the District of Columbia and PuertoAustria and switzerland, okay, nitpicking there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost Finland, UK, Norway, Russia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost Finland, UK, Norway, Russia....I mean..doesnt russia count as both Europe and Asia :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Does it matter if it does?Poster claimed the Sweepstakes was available to only two countries in Europe; it seems that is not so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holykitten.3064 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrother.1340 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallune.8150 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @jbrother.1340 said:@Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :)It most definitely is .. the connection just happens to be underwater ;) I am quite impressed though that they are willing to ship the car to Europe as part of the prize. (Although I'm guessing import taxes and other stuff may make the cash alternative a better option) :Grand Prize vehicle will be delivered to winner at address provided by winner during notification process, within three months of winner confirmation (unless otherwise agreed to in writing by Sponsor) – delivery outside the continental United States of America will increase delivery timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrother.1340 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Vallune.8150 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :)It most definitely is .. the connection just happens to be underwater ;) I am quite impressed though that they are willing to ship the car to Europe as part of the prize. (Although I'm guessing import taxes and other stuff may make the cash alternative a better option) :Grand Prize vehicle will be delivered to winner at address provided by winner during notification process, within three months of winner confirmation (unless otherwise agreed to in writing by Sponsor) – delivery outside the continental United States of America will increase delivery timeframe.lordy lol... give me a break you can split hairs all you like but in reality we are all just floating :)Magma trumps all, unless you want to get subatomic about it :)Would take the cash :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @jbrother.1340 said:@Vallune.8150 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :)It most definitely is .. the connection just happens to be underwater ;) I am quite impressed though that they are willing to ship the car to Europe as part of the prize. (Although I'm guessing import taxes and other stuff may make the cash alternative a better option) :Grand Prize vehicle will be delivered to winner at address provided by winner during notification process, within three months of winner confirmation (unless otherwise agreed to in writing by Sponsor) – delivery outside the continental United States of America will increase delivery timeframe.lordy lol... give me a break you can split hairs all you like but in reality we are all just floating :)Magma trumps all, unless you want to get subatomic about it :)Would take the cash :)If you go subatomic then nothing is really connected....Either way, that what youre calling splitting hairs, is the obvious mistake of defining being part of the EU the same as being part of Europe.No wonder Europe is shrinking if the definition changes that dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrother.1340 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @FrizzFreston.5290 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Vallune.8150 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :)It most definitely is .. the connection just happens to be underwater ;) I am quite impressed though that they are willing to ship the car to Europe as part of the prize. (Although I'm guessing import taxes and other stuff may make the cash alternative a better option) :Grand Prize vehicle will be delivered to winner at address provided by winner during notification process, within three months of winner confirmation (unless otherwise agreed to in writing by Sponsor) – delivery outside the continental United States of America will increase delivery timeframe.lordy lol... give me a break you can split hairs all you like but in reality we are all just floating :)Magma trumps all, unless you want to get subatomic about it :)Would take the cash :)If you go subatomic then nothing is really connected....Either way, that what youre calling splitting hairs, is the obvious mistake of defining being part of the EU the same as being part of Europe.No wonder Europe is shrinking if the definition changes that dramatically.I guess I should use a sarcasm tag or something because it really is and you are just sucking it up :)They are also bailing out of the union so... Lines in the sand what can you say. I like em all anyway. Humans are ok with me. Even if they live on fake islands :)Either way it is none of my concern.The subatomic is where all the action is at these days. The best parties and all the chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 @jbrother.1340 said:@FrizzFreston.5290 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Vallune.8150 said:@jbrother.1340 said:@Haleydawn.3764 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:Europe must be shrinking, then? Lost UK....we're getting there ;)The UK can’t opt out of the continent. It is not even attached to the continent :)It most definitely is .. the connection just happens to be underwater ;) I am quite impressed though that they are willing to ship the car to Europe as part of the prize. (Although I'm guessing import taxes and other stuff may make the cash alternative a better option) :Grand Prize vehicle will be delivered to winner at address provided by winner during notification process, within three months of winner confirmation (unless otherwise agreed to in writing by Sponsor) – delivery outside the continental United States of America will increase delivery timeframe.lordy lol... give me a break you can split hairs all you like but in reality we are all just floating :)Magma trumps all, unless you want to get subatomic about it :)Would take the cash :)If you go subatomic then nothing is really connected....Either way, that what youre calling splitting hairs, is the obvious mistake of defining being part of the EU the same as being part of Europe.No wonder Europe is shrinking if the definition changes that dramatically.I guess I should use a sarcasm tag or something because it really is and you are just sucking it up :)They are also bailing out of the union so... Lines in the sand what can you say. I like em all anyway. Humans are ok with me. Even if they live on fake islands :)Either way it is none of my concern.The subatomic is where all the action is at these days. The best parties and all the chicks.I am just pointing out the difference either way, before it gets sillier. Definitions are serious business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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