Reaper AFK farming is allowed I think

[FitzChevalerie.1035]

why would anet give us autocast if they didnt want it to be used

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

You are likely to get the same answers as in the all the other threads you've created on the subject.

Report, and move on.

[Kisakee.3587]

Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

[Randulf.7614]

How do u know they are running a script and not just pressing one button in the keyboard every half hour

[Kisakee.3587]

@Randulf.7614 said:How do u know they are running a script and not just pressing one button in the keyboard every half hour

Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases. And i just did the test and took a look at one spot over one day, after 14 hours the exact same player still stood there. I don't have to tell you that it is very unlikely that someone is standing at the same spot for 14 hours and presses the auto attack key every 10 seconds, right?

And before you start arguing: It's the same with everyone there. Go take a look by yourself if you don't believe us.In fact i started luring strong enemies to them to watch them die and sometimes it works.

[Selient.6018]

@Kisakee.3587 said:

@Randulf.7614 said:How do u know they are running a script and not just pressing one button in the keyboard every half hour

Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases. And i just did the test and took a look at one spot over one day, after 14 hours the exact same player still stood there. I don't have to tell you that it is very unlikely that someone is standing at the same spot for 14 hours and presses the auto attack key every 10 seconds, right?

And before you start arguing: It's the same with everyone there. Go take a look by yourself if you don't believe us.In fact i started luring strong enemies to them to watch them die and sometimes it works.

You got the point!!

It's not against the rule if they really not afk, buthow do you play gw2 10+ hours at same spot?Really?

There is no answer for it,Devs just ignore this problem since release,GMs jsut tell you to report in game and reply like NPC.

[Randulf.7614]

I feel you might be a little obsessed over it if you are watching over a 14hr period. It is Anets problem not ours. Do what the rest do and report/move on, making sure you take screenshots.

Anet have repeatedly sorted some offenders - sometimes immediately and sometimes in waves later on down the line.

Until they cause me an actual direct issue...I fail to see any issue especially since it is beyond my control anyway

Report and move on

[Kisakee.3587]

Of course i didn't stood there too just watching them but took a look every other hour. And if you chose to ignore such unfair behaviour that's on you but others do care, that's called justice.

[FOX.3582]

@"Selient.6018" said:There are always 10+ afk players sit at Domain of Istan.Reporting in game does not help.Why it's allowed?No GM can answer this.

Here is an idea, and try to bare with me here okay?

Have you ever tried just PLAYING and ENJOYING this game? Why would you even care about this? What is wrong with people ...

[Dante.1763]

@FOX.3582 said:

@"Selient.6018" said:

There are always 10+ afk players sit at Domain of Istan.Reporting in game does not help.Why it's allowed?No GM can answer this.

Here is an idea, and try to bare with me here okay?

Have you ever tried just PLAYING and ENJOYING this game? Why would you even care about this? What is wrong with people ...

Its even better cause you dont get 10k AP by farming, so those players actively play to! XD

What would OP think about me? i spend all day sitting in the BC half the time, or out in Whatever the new map is just talking to people.

[BadHealer.3608]

@Kisakee.3587 said:Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases.Yes, you can set one skill at autoattack (CTRL+Mouse2). I'm doing this for 7 years. What is wrong with that? Should I banded for live for abusing?

[Yellow Rainbow.6142]

@FOX.3582 said:

@"Selient.6018" said:

There are always 10+ afk players sit at Domain of Istan.Reporting in game does not help.Why it's allowed?No GM can answer this.

Here is an idea, and try to bare with me here okay?

Have you ever tried just PLAYING and ENJOYING this game? Why would you even care about this? What is wrong with people ...

This is always my thought. Why do you even care. Just play your game the way you want..

[Hashberry.4510]

This community even loves its bots.

[Randulf.7614]

@Hashberry.4510 said:This community even loves its bots.

Sadly there is no hug emote to go up and give them a great big jolly embrace!

[Vinceman.4572]

@Hashberry.4510 said:This community even loves its bots.

This community has rather understood that bots aren't a serious issue in this game, not even a little annoyance that need to be taken care of.

[Sruni.8294]

If you feel like a owner of a GW2 account is doing something wrong just report them and move on. Making a post on a public forum saying a person is doing something wrong is going to solve nothing at all. Once you report them it's in Arenanet's hands if they get punished or not.

[Selient.6018]

@iAntigone.2097 said:If you feel like a owner of a GW2 account is doing something wrong just report them and move on. Making a post on a public forum saying a person is doing something wrong is going to solve nothing at all. Once you report them it's in Arenanet's hands if they get punished or not.

not a person, but at lease 20 afker doing itand there is not proper way to report it

[Sruni.8294]

@Selient.6018 said:

@"iAntigone.2097" said:If you feel like a owner of a GW2 account is doing something wrong just report them and move on. Making a post on a public forum saying a person is doing something wrong is going to solve nothing at all. Once you report them it's in Arenanet's hands if they get punished or not.

not a person, but at lease 20 afker doing itand there is not proper way to report it

Hmm weird.. https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010187753-Reporting-a-Player-or-Guil

[Teratus.2859]

@FitzChevalerie.1035 said:why would anet give us autocast if they didnt want it to be used

Mostly for skill chains.

Personally I've always felt that allowing people to assign it to other skills was a mistake, should be locked to your 1 skill chain.This problem wouldn't exist if it was without macros and 3rd party software.. and that's a lot easier to identify and ban people for using.

[Teratus.2859]

@Kisakee.3587 said:Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

I like Minions and use them often so that's mostly why it bothers me.I fear one day they will be changed because of AFK players abusing them and will end up completely killing their use and appeal.

One bad change can ruin a skill type for me, the last big change to Ranger spirits is one such example.Used them for many years until the last change.. now i've removed them from every single one of my builds because they're garbage now.Don't want to see Minions suffer something similar.

[Selient.6018]

@Selient.6018 said:

Attacking air is ok, attacking air for 10 hours is ok too.

Did you record them attacking the air for 10 hours???? That's some next level stalking

[Kisakee.3587]

@BadHealer.3608 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Because they attack once every 10 or 15 seconds in most cases.Yes, you can set one skill at autoattack (CTRL+Mouse2). I'm doing this for 7 years. What is wrong with that? Should I banded for live for abusing?

This is not how it works, think again.

@Teratus.2859 said:

@Kisakee.3587 said:Just call it by name: Necros, Ingenieurs and sometimes other classes are sitting afk, having scripts running that auto attack every somewhat seconds to not get kicked while minions, turrets and other pets permanently kill mobs. This is auto or afk farming of magic, karma, XP etc.

Can i be upset about that? Yes, absolutely. That's just unfair, isn't it? People care about such things and that's totally fine.

I like Minions and use them often so that's mostly why it bothers me.I fear one day they will be changed because of AFK players abusing them and will end up completely killing their use and appeal.

One bad change can ruin a skill type for me, the last big change to Ranger spirits is one such example.Used them for many years until the last change.. now i've removed them from every single one of my builds because they're garbage now.Don't want to see Minions suffer something similar.

If ANet would punish such afk farming behaviour with time bans or perma bans nobody would do it anymore and no changes are needed. Doing nothing for a long time just accumulates the frustration of the people to the point where they need to do something about it to prevent riots and (again like in many other cases) tempt to overreact with nerfs etc.

And again to everyone else who just sad "ignore it": Why should we? Not doing anything against it is in my understanding the same like allowing it and for freaks sake i'm not going to allow anyone to abuse something to get an unfair advantage of. Earn it like everyone else!

[Vinceman.4572]

Since it's only you both insisting on it they won't take action.

Went to the spot in Istan some minutes ago. Stayed there for 10 minutes and hit every spawning mob there. Result: Totally not worth it even if you do it for 24/7.

Such exaggeration for nothing. LOL.

[Brycar.2651]

Are they making it hard to get an achievement or interference with something like a legendary collection item? If not, then no harm.

[HnRkLnXqZ.1870]

Oh, it is this topic again.

About reporting/baning:Ever heared of Schroedinger's Cat? Every character that is not moving when you look at it, is basically a copy of that box where the cat is contained. Until someone opens the box, we do no know if the cat is alive or not. Until someone goes to the players house and enters the room with the computer, we do not know if someone is sitting behind the computer or not. There are methods to check ingame, both as a regular player and as a GM, but no method can bring up the complete truth about the situation. We do not know the circumstances why the character is currently not moving, there can be a lot of reasons for it (lagg, toilet-break, eating-break, phone-call, ... etc.).

Unattended Farming:You are sitting in front of your computer, GW2 client is open and your character is somewhere in Tyria. Autoattack is activated on a certain skill. You have more than one window open, because your engine is not made out of a potato. You are watching a movie, show, listening to music, working or doing something else. Once in a while, you pop up the GW2 window again and check if everything is alright. That is legal. If opening another window on your computer while playing GW2 was prohibited, every player would be banned.

You are also free to watch TV or play a console on the nearby TV, talk to your neighbor, doing a phone-call, calming and/or feeding your child, petting your dog/cat or whatever you have got in mind. As long as you are within range of your computer, there is no problem.

Do they harm us?It is not very motivational to watch a player performing unattended farming, while you are busy actively participating in events on the map. People start to ponder, whether they should do the same, or why they even bother farming the normal way at all.

While they perform unattended farming, they gain EXP, loot and maybe karma due to Karmic Retribution.

• EXP: Does it grant a benefit? It is by far the slowest of all methods to acquire EXP in the game. Our NPCs give more EXP, the longer they are alive in the game. Spawn killing is counterproductive. If you play the game actively and participate in events and activities, you can make a lot of EXP quickly. Those farmers may take hours to acquire the same.
• LOOT: Let me introduce you to Diminishing Returns aka DR. I suggest you read the entire page carefully, it is not very long. About loot it says:

Loot from enemies, in which foes tend to drop less loot of progressively lower quality, for a character remaining in the same area for long periods of time.

• KARMA: Most of the maps which have seen increased populations of unattended farmers have faced minor balances. Some maps have ridiculously low drop-rates even on the highest tier, you are in most cases faster when you actively play the game.