Just a reminder how fast Anet is at fixing bugs and problems :)

[meikinator.8057]

I always love it when i encounter bugs in this game and then look in this forum and see posts about this exact bug from YEARS ago. Like this bug:https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/6541/is-there-a-way-to-replay-the-way-forwardOctober 2017... its now almost march 2020, 2 and a half years later, and absolutetly NOTHING has been done to fix this. The only thing that happened is that the linked thread got locked...Simple bugs not being fixed in literal years... just sad...

[Cyninja.2954]

Bugs are scaled on how game critical they are and thus when they have to be fealt with, a very common practice in sofrteare development.

For example, the recent bug where warclaw mounts speed golems in WvW, obviously unintended, was addressed within 24-48 hours since it is a rather critical bug to the game mode.

The bug you are talking about is so minor and insignificant, it probably has not made the list, and also might never do due to the continued developing nature of this product.

You are obviously free to assume and complain as you see fit. Maybe dealing with minor bugs first and leaving critical bugs unattended, as you seem to be suggesting, is the better approach.

EDIT:The edit button worked just fine for me. See?

[meikinator.8057]

Edit: i made it through the wind storm but the marker to replay the epsiode doesnt even work at all. absolutely hillarious XDBTW the edit button on this website doesnt work as well

[Blaeys.3102]

I love GW2 and am still enjoying the game a lot, but I have to agree with this sentiment. Guild Races are another example. They have been bugged since the launch of HOT (they will often end prematurely when the first guild member crosses the finish line - but not always).

I think the reason is developer turnover and Anet's general tendency to do something awesome and then forget about it as they move on the next new and shiny thing.

The best example of this is the shooting gallery mini-game in Divinity's Reach. Since the BETA WEEKENDS (7+ years ago), an npc in Divinity's Reach will give you directions to a minigame that doesn't (and HAS NEVER) existed, going so far as to put an indicator star on your map to lead the way. That NPC is still there today - still giving directions to something that has never been in the game.

Anet is great at coming up with great ideas - they aren't so good at supporting those ideas long term.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

Do be aware: Some 'bug-fixes' will break more things than fix, and that is one reason some bugs don't get fixed.
Some are in a queue for priority, and may always stay near the bottom. Some are fixed before they are ever seen.

As for the 'Edit' button, you must have the requisite rank to edit. If you had only one star when first creating this thread, you would not be able to edit. As you seem to be a new poster, that was probably the case.

[FOX.3582]

They don't give a shat.

[sasya neko.1985]

in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

Really?!
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:BugsFive days ago:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates

[Just a flesh wound.3589]

@"sorudo.9054" said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

FebruaryThe warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

JanuaryFixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

DecemberFixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

[Svarty.8019]

@FOX.3582 said:They don't give a kitten.It's not about caring, it's about priorities, and priorities are about survival and survival is about money.

[sasya neko.1985]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@"sorudo.9054" said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.

in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

February

The warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

January

Fixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

December

Fixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

and none of them are things they should've fixed months ago, you're looking at stuff they fixed for that one patch, not for old bugs they never bothered to fix.also, all of the fixes they did would cost them if they didn't fix it, they even add stuff to hide their own lack of support.

[Just a flesh wound.3589]

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.

in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

February

The warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

January

Fixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

December

Fixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

and none of them are things they should've fixed months ago, you're looking at stuff they fixed for that one patch, not for old bugs they never bothered to fix.also, all of the fixes they did would cost them if they didn't fix it, they even add stuff to hide their own lack of support.

That wasn’t your post. Your post wasn’t ‘old bugs being fixed is a rarity’. It was ‘bugs being fixed was a rarity’. And that’s what I responded to. Perhaps you should edit your post if you said something different than what you meant.

[Dawdler.8521]

The corner wall sections on DBL garri is probably still missing, or did they fix them this patch? They've been missing for... 4 years? 5? Oh I cant remember anymore. You'd think it would be easy to just fix a little static object - it's not even a destructable wall - but no. Apparently it is not. Fixing a wall has literally been taking longer than producing an entire AAA game from scratch.

[Sugar Min.5834]

@FOX.3582 said:They don't give a kitten.

^This. ANet is programmed to response to calls for NERFS only. The rest can wait... forever.

[Vayne.8563]

@Blaeys.3102 said:I love GW2 and am still enjoying the game a lot, but I have to agree with this sentiment. Guild Races are another example. They have been bugged since the launch of HOT (they will often end prematurely when the first guild member crosses the finish line - but not always).

I think the reason is developer turnover and Anet's general tendency to do something awesome and then forget about it as they move on the next new and shiny thing.

The best example of this is the shooting gallery mini-game in Divinity's Reach. Since the BETA WEEKENDS (7+ years ago), an npc in Divinity's Reach will give you directions to a minigame that doesn't (and HAS NEVER) existed, going so far as to put an indicator star on your map to lead the way. That NPC is still there today - still giving directions to something that has never been in the game.

Anet is great at coming up with great ideas - they aren't so good at supporting those ideas long term.

What you call a bug I call a feature. They give you the reward for a guildie getting through the race. I don't see this as a downside. People terrible at races can get a reward. The guild doesn't get credit until you get 15 people through however. The race doesn't actually end. This to me, for a guild that doesn't need any currency ever is just a time saver.

Same with treks. Treks give you a personal reward as soon as you do one trek. To get guild credit you have to do all five, or all fifteen or all thirty. I don't think that's broken. I think it's fine the way it is.

[Crackmonster.2790]

It is impossible to chase down every single bug of a game as big as this. The real question is, do bugs affect daily play or are the mostly negligible or rarely encountered in a severe fashion? I'd say the latter, don't think GW2 is much a bugged game compared to games. I did run into rare bugs tho a few serious ones too, like events get stuck until new map server and reported for years. But nearly always i don't have problems. It won't help anyone with doomsaying of how they "don't care", the reason you believe in that is you need to get a positive view on things in life again instead of letting the negative overwhelm your vision and slowly drown out all your faith and belief in others. Start looking for the signs of hope, rather than the signs of doom. Searching for the signs of doom is just a distraction from facing how you feel about yourself and how your life is going.

[aspirine.6852]

There are bugged events probably in every single core maps. Been there for years and they will never be fixed. :/

[Blocki.4931]

Most bugs are very minor. Do you really want them to use dev time to look through 10 years old code on core maps, to fix an event that maybe 2 people in the world care about? Because there is a 10% chance of it triggering? Without knowing what would even cause it to begin with?

The answer should be no.

Not a smart decision at all.

Contemporary content is where Anet's focus has always been and they need to focus all their time and money on making sure that is the stuff that doesn't completely bug out and makes it unplayable. We have seen many cases where some new collection required old events and they were suddenly flooded, causing new or very old bugs to come out of the woodworks. That's a shame, those are the ones that get fixed.

Minor annoyances do not need to be fixed, if a company does it they do so out of their own good will (or rather a dev has a passion project or simply really cares)

[Hashberry.4510]

This acceptance of bugged product is why the software industry is so sloppy in general, and will stay that way.

[sasya neko.1985]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.

in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

February

The warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

January

Fixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

December

Fixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

and none of them are things they should've fixed months ago, you're looking at stuff they fixed for that one patch, not for old bugs they never bothered to fix.also, all of the fixes they did would cost them if they didn't fix it, they even add stuff to hide their own lack of support.

That wasn’t your post. Your post wasn’t ‘old bugs being fixed is a rarity’. It was ‘bugs being fixed was a rarity’. And that’s what I responded to. Perhaps you should edit your post if you said something different than what you meant.

no, every bug, even from 7 years ago, has the right to be fixed.don't try to hide behind current fixes of current problems when bugs that exist since launch are ignored, so yes i responded correctly.

[Just a flesh wound.3589]

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.

in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

February

The warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

January

Fixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

December

Fixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

and none of them are things they should've fixed months ago, you're looking at stuff they fixed for that one patch, not for old bugs they never bothered to fix.also, all of the fixes they did would cost them if they didn't fix it, they even add stuff to hide their own lack of support.

That wasn’t your post. Your post wasn’t ‘old bugs being fixed is a rarity’. It was ‘bugs being fixed was a rarity’. And that’s what I responded to. Perhaps you should edit your post if you said something different than what you meant.

no, every bug, even from 7 years ago, has the right to be fixed.don't try to hide behind current fixes of current problems when bugs that exist since launch are ignored, so yes i responded correctly.

If you assume infinite available budget and dev manhours then of course all bugs should be fixed but if budget and manhours are finite then the most important bugs should be fixed first and longevity of a bug is not the most important criteria. The impact of the bug on players is far more important and I doubt people would be happy if the devs spent time fixing bugs based on how old they are instead of how important they are.

[kharmin.7683]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@sorudo.9054 said:in the original GW a bug, regardless on how insignificant it is, was fixed extremely fast.

in GW2 however, a bug being fixed is a rarity indeed, they only fix things when it would cost them money, not to maintain a proper level of game quality.

......i really miss the old Anet.

Really?

February

The warclaw's endurance now displays the correct number of ticks.Fixed a bug that caused armor rewards from the new tutorial achievements to give players the wrong attribute selection options.Fixed a bug in which learning the chef crafting discipline from a capital city trainer would not progress the Interest in Food achievement. Players who are chefs can gain the achievement by deactivating the chef discipline and activating it again, or by activating the chef discipline on a character that does not have it.Fixed a bug in which Warclaw Mastery Tier 2 could apply its speed boost to players in siege golems.Ice Shard Stab: Fixed an issue in which the damage increase for this skill was applied in all game modes instead of only PvE.Mesmer:Vicious Expression: Reduced the damage bonus from 25% to 15% in PvE only.Bountiful Blades: Fixed a bug that caused this trait to grant the old functionality for Confounding Suggestions.Guardian:Inspiring Virtue: The bonus damage effect from this trait no longer stacks duration, instead resetting its 6-second duration when triggered.Warrior:Earthshaker: Fixed a bug in which the spellbreaker's version of this skill did more damage than intended in PvP and WvW.Fixed a bug that prevented PvP seasonal achievements from progressing.Fixed an issue in which the light puzzle under Drakkar wasn't removing players' abilities to dismount.Fixed an issue in which the "Defeat the patrolling Fallen / Sons of Svanir / Aberrant enemies" events would sometimes not increment progress toward the "Koda Be Praised" achievement.Fixed an issue in which the "Luminiferous" achievement would sometimes not retroactively give progress for previously completed puzzles.Fixed an issue in which players could become stuck inside of the tier 3 essence chests.Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause moveable mirrors in light puzzles to incorrectly register the lights, resulting in them being destroyed.Fixed an issue in which the "Destroy the corrupted shard" events would sometimes fail to complete when entering Still Waters Speaking.Fixed an issue in which episode 1 was still unlocked during the episode 2 release window.Fixed an issue in which the achievement "Truly Nimble Onslaught" was showing incorrect text dataResolved an issue in which the Corrupted Ox Shrine guild decoration lacked collision, preventing it from being removed

January

Fixed an issue in which red lines were outlining parts of the Grand Lion Griffon and Cozy Wintersday Mounts Skins when certain dyes were applied.Fixed a bug in which the Winter Monarch Cape wasn't displaying properly in the preview window of the Gem Store.Fixed an issue that caused utility effects to expire when players used the Snowflake Gobbler.The Mythic Weapon Collection was never intended to have an achievement associated with it. The achievement has been removed from the Black Lion Collections section of the Achievements tab.Fixed an issue in which players who were not instance owners could be removed from an instance when its boundaries were updated.Fixed an issue that prevented the final reward chests from appearing for some players in the "Shadow in the Ice" light puzzles.Fixed server crashes.Fixed an issue that allowed the Sacred Pegasus Griffon Skin to be rewarded multiple times from the Black Lion Chest.Fixed a bug that prevented the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement from correctly tracking the progress of the Skyscale Rider achievements. The Skyscale Rider achievements are now visible in the Ruler of the Skies meta-achievement in the Explorer section of the General achievements category.Fixed an issue that prevented Drakkar from properly transitioning through phases.Fixed an issue that caused players to remain in combat in Whispering Depths after the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event ended in failure.Fixed an issue that caused Jhavi Jorasdottir to lose focus on the task at hand, stalling the "Champion of the Ice Dragon" meta-event.Fixed a client crash.Fixed a server crash.Fixed an issue with the Strike Mission timers in Bjora Marches.Fixed an issue in which being downed or defeated while running through certain light puzzles resulted in certain rewards not appearing until reentering the light puzzle.The merchant Humble Stone in the village of Still Waters Speaking now offers a limited supply of spare Restored Boreal weapons to players who have previously crafted them.Damage from the boneskinner has returned to intended levels.Opened up the Strike Mission: Whisper of Jormag to all players, not just players who have completed the story content.Prologue: Bound by Blood: Braham once again will be able to overcome the mental prison of his guilt and leave his cell in the "Bad Blood" chapter.Fixed an issue that blocked players from accessing the Bjora Marches Reward Track if they had previously unlocked it.Increased the drop rate of Ice Shards for the Eternal Ice Shard Home Instance Node.

December

Fixed an issue in which players received essence chest rewards even if they failed the strike missions in the "Whisper in the Dark" episode.Fixed an issue that caused the Emblazoned Cape to incorrectly appear locked in the Gem Store for players without the Heart of Thorns expansion.Fixed an issue that caused cape skins to animate oddly on female sylvari characters.Fixed an issue that caused some odd cape collision on charr characters due to bone scaling.Fixed an issue that caused the completion of Light Puzzle achievements to reset daily.Fixed a bug that caused players to be kicked out of the Boneskinner Strike Mission at the beginning of the fight.Fixed an issue that prevented the Black Lion Season 4 Expedition Board from appearing correctly in players' home instances under certain conditions.Fixed an issue with notifications on the Black Lion Trading Company icon in the menu bar that caused errors for Play for Free players.Fixed a bug that caused the Endless Choya Dance Tonic to be hidden in the Novelties section of the Equipment tab.Adjusted the stats and damage of the boneskinner in the Boneskinner Strike Mission to closer match its intended difficulty. Changed how damage is inflicted on the boneskinner's Tormenting Aura mechanic to preserve the integrity of the intended fight mechanics.Engineer—Utility Goggles: Fixed a bug that changed the tool belt for this skill to its previous version when traited with Gadgeteer.Fixed an issue with the Sweet Campfire Treat that prevented players from moving or deleting the item from their inventory.Fixed a client crash.Fixed an issue in which warrior banners could last longer than intended.Fixed a client crash.Increased the maximum duration of the Wintersday Boost granted by the Snowflake Gobbler from two hours to one day. Prevented the Snowflake Gobbler from purchasing additional Snowflake Gobbler's Blessings if the purchase would extend the Wintersday Boost beyond its maximum duration.Players are no longer unable to use weapon skills 4 and 5 after switching to an Equipment Template in which the active weapon set is empty and the other weapon set has a two-handed weapon.

And so on and so forth for the previous months.

and none of them are things they should've fixed months ago, you're looking at stuff they fixed for that one patch, not for old bugs they never bothered to fix.also, all of the fixes they did would cost them if they didn't fix it, they even add stuff to hide their own lack of support.

That wasn’t your post. Your post wasn’t ‘old bugs being fixed is a rarity’. It was ‘bugs being fixed was a rarity’. And that’s what I responded to. Perhaps you should edit your post if you said something different than what you meant.

no, every bug, even from 7 years ago, has the right to be fixed.don't try to hide behind current fixes of current problems when bugs that exist since launch are ignored, so yes i responded correctly.

If you assume infinite available budget and dev manhours then of course all bugs should be fixed but if budget and manhours are finite then the most important bugs should be fixed first and longevity of a bug is not the most important criteria. The impact of the bug on players is far more important and I doubt people would be happy if the devs spent time fixing bugs based on how old they are instead of how important they are.

Not to mention that it has been stated before that fixing some bugs may very well break major things, so they have decided not to expend resources toward them.

[Blocki.4931]

@"Hashberry.4510" said:This acceptance of bugged product is why the software industry is so sloppy in general, and will stay that way.

The acceptance of *playble product.

It's absolutely insane to believe games can be bug free, especially not ones with thousands of variables that can change from day to day like an MMO. What if one skill interaction from a class that wasn't originally released just happens to break this one part of the game that's been that way for 6 years? There is no "perfect code", devs work on making things run as flawlessly as they can, but just like the balance of an ever evolving combat game it's an impossible task.

[aspirine.6852]

btw some of those reported fixed bugs are still bugs unfortunately :( Here we go to the bug report forum...

[b k.1648]

@Blocki.4931 said:

@"Hashberry.4510" said:This acceptance of bugged product is why the software industry is so sloppy in general, and will stay that way.

The acceptance of *playble product.

It's absolutely insane to believe games can be bug free, especially not ones with thousands of variables that can change from day to day like an MMO. What if one skill interaction from a class that wasn't originally released just happens to break this one part of the game that's been that way for 6 years? There is no "perfect code", devs work on making things run as flawlessly as they can, but just like the balance of an ever evolving combat game it's an impossible task.

Something like this. If we didn't accept that some bugs are inevitable and that they can be addressed by priority, we'd be stuck with software from the 80s.