Hot Boy.7138 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Downstate is as much of the combat as when you're battling at with a full hp bar. It is absolutely ridiculous that downstates are consistently ignored in balance changes. Balance downstate, or get rid of it. Some classes downstate are ridiculously strong compared to others and it's simply not fair or fun to be on the short end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)Mesmer2)Thief3)NecroWhich can still do pre-Feb patch levels of dmg which is freaking stupid...where are their priorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Quick balance fixes are not anets things. I fear all ur posts will fall on deaf ears and we wont get a proper balance for 3v3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Boy.7138 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 @Eddbopkins.2630 said:Quick balance fixes are not anets things. I fear all ur posts will fall on deaf ears and we wont get a proper balance for 3v3.I feel the same way. But I wanted to say something anyway. it is better to say something than nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Down state is useful in pve but we only need the ability to res in pvp if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woltarion.6829 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 @Arheundel.6451 said:They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)MesmerI'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 @Woltarion.6829 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)MesmerI'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 @CutesySylveon.8290 said:@Woltarion.6829 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)MesmerI'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.3x dps traitline. berserker amulet, eagle rune.get downedyou fool, you activated my trap card. YEET 16k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 i one shotted someone with that mes downed state phantasm once, dam it was so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:@CutesySylveon.8290 said:@Woltarion.6829 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)MesmerI'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.3x dps traitline. berserker amulet, eagle rune.get downedyou fool, you activated my trap card. YEET 16kI play mesmer for the downstate...I'm at my most lethal when in mortal danger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 There should be no down state in 3v3 or 2v2.....if they can do ot for wvw they most certainly can do it for pvp. Once your beat u, should be done. No second chances no revive signet. U go down that should be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 @CutesySylveon.8290 said:@Woltarion.6829 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:They should have nerfed the downstate of : 1)MesmerI'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.The damage is ridicolous, but 30% of the times the enemy will dodge the attack 'cause it's so telegraphed, 30% of the times the phantasm is stunned\killed b4 attacking, 30% of the times it will stare at the enemy and do fucking nothing. They should nerf the damage big time, but make it reliable and buff a bit the autoattack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 It's pretty funny to see a mesmer crit for 11k in downstate ngl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond.9486 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Lmao where are all these people getting 11k-16k(!) damage on Mesmer downstate? Im full glass dps and the most I got was on another full glass light armor with 8k. Which is still crazy, but 16k?? Twice as much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 @Elrond.9486 said:Lmao where are all these people getting 11k-16k(!) damage on Mesmer downstate? Im full glass dps and the most I got was on another full glass light armor with 8k. Which is still crazy, but 16k?? Twice as much?it boils down to the fact that I played mesmer for a while, and I remember the biggest numbers since they stick the most.average hits are much much lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone Jack.3462 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I love minion-mancer downstate. People run to get away from that mess. Minions hit hard when you're trying to hit the necro, who's also hitting hard. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Everyone who complains about downstate skill mechanics should be banned from any real balance discussion. Ridiculous. The downstate itself is dumb, but if you can't get the job done because of some "overpowered" downstate skill, then you are just bad. At worst just move out of range for a few seconds to back up and then come back to stomp (or in case of warrior: just stay at range). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Boy.7138 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 @"KrHome.1920" said:Everyone who complains about downstate skill mechanics should be banned from any real balance discussion. Ridiculous. The downstate itself is dumb, but if you can't get the job done because of some "overpowered" downstate skill, then you are just bad. At worst just move out of range for a few seconds to back up and then come back to stomp (or in case of warrior: just stay at range).In that case, why balance anything when the clear solution is to just run away and return only when you are good and ready to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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