Acyk.9671 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) deleted Edited April 3, 2022 by Acyk.9671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojjang.1052 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Don't mind me, just sitting here waiting for spear to be announced 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bojjang.1052 said: Don't mind me, just sitting here waiting for spear to be announced 😄 It it is an actual spear and not staff. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: It it is an actual spear and not staff. Sure. Does it really matter? If they release spear skins for it to slap onto the staff, I think it makes no difference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Kodama.6453 said: Does it really matter? If they release spear skins for it to slap onto the staff, I think it makes no difference. We already have a few spear skins for Staff, so people wouldn't even need to rely only on new skins for the spear fantasy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fueki.4753 said: We already have a few spear skins for Staff, so people wouldn't even need to rely only on new skins for the spear fantasy. True, but some more options to chose from wouldn't hurt either. Anyway, if warrior gets a spear playstyle for staff, then they will at least add the 2 skins from the specialisation for it. So if this happens, we get 2 more spear skins minimum. Edited August 2, 2021 by Kodama.6453 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Acyk.9671 said: Right but we haven't got an e-spec in 4 years. Would people appreciate that even on warrior? Fair enough. I agree with that sentiment lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) On 8/1/2021 at 11:33 AM, Fueki.4753 said: Why would they even change Greatsword of all weapons for a Samurai elite specialization? A Samurai's preferred weapon was the bow, so if they would change any weapon for a Samurai theme it would be the Longbow, not the oversized clunkiness. And their most-used melee weapons were polearms, so a Warrior's hypothetical Samurai elite specialization would mostly likely get access to Staff, with skills that world like glaives or spears. Them getting Shortbow would fit the teme as well, but we know Arenanet's opinion on ranged weapons on Warrior. Unless they indulge in pop fiction waste, swords would hardly be of any concern for a Samurai elite specialization. Ur right about the bow but I think they meant change the gs skills to resemble the unique style of Japanese swordsmanship. Other than gs5 no gs skill would in any ways resemble a samurai style of combat. Yes changes to bow with the addition of a spear/yari type weapon would be the way to go but having the option to use bilinda's skin with a Japanese style of sword strikes would also appease the samurai fans, possibly more than the spear even if not as historically as accurate in combat situations. Edited August 3, 2021 by Psycoprophet.8107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 11:50 AM, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Nah. That rev like symbol looks like a decorated samurai helmet. That and I bet they get Greatsword. To me it looks like a mix between rev and ritualist flipped sideways. And I would have said they were gonna get ashes to hold but that'd be too similar to glint so I think they'll get ranged spirits, and I'm guessing they'll get scepter or focus or both. Neither of those weapons have been given to an elite spec yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: To me it looks like a mix between rev and ritualist flipped sideways. And I would have said they were gonna get ashes to hold but that'd be too similar to glint so I think they'll get ranged spirits, and I'm guessing they'll get scepter or focus or both. Neither of those weapons have been given to an elite spec yet. kitten, you're right. Scepter and Focus haven't been espec weapons yet. Watch thief get focus 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadi.6025 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I honestly think thats the necro icon since they had pistol in the reveal but i could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: kitten, you're right. Scepter and Focus haven't been espec weapons yet. Watch thief get focus 🤣 Serves em right the nasty sneaky filthy hobbitses. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: To me it looks like a mix between rev and ritualist flipped sideways. And I would have said they were gonna get ashes to hold but that'd be too similar to glint so I think they'll get ranged spirits, and I'm guessing they'll get scepter or focus or both. Neither of those weapons have been given to an elite spec yet. 24 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: I think they'll get ranged spirits 24 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: ranged spirits Ever played Renegade and used Icerazor's Ire? Renegade IS the spirit-summoning revenant elite spec, it just uses charr aesthetics rather than GW1 Canthan aesthetics. Don't need another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, draxynnic.3719 said: Ever played Renegade and used Icerazor's Ire? Renegade IS the spirit-summoning revenant elite spec, it just uses charr aesthetics rather than GW1 Canthan aesthetics. Don't need another one. They'd be ranged like turrets, so not like renegade which is just fancy AOE's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Acyk.9671 said: basically the same gameplay.... If Anet is going to introduce any more spiritual forms, Rev shouldn't be the recipient again. Give it to Necro as the new E-spec looks like Joseung Saja with pistol. Playing with souls or spirits would make sense. Necro already has AI combatants (minions) giving them more summons wouldn't be a good move IMO. Thematically it sounds good though. Edited August 3, 2021 by Red Haired Savage.5430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Red Haired Savage.5430 said: Necro already has AI combatants (minions) giving them more summons wouldn't be a good move IMO. Thematically it sounds good though. Give thief some shadow creatures to summon which attack from range. Thief and warrior are the classes without an AI skill type (the single skill thieves guild doesn't count). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Acyk.9671 said: Who get spirit aside, it can work like renegade or mesmer clones. There is no prior design for souls so Anet would be free. If it's a ritualist elite spec I'd assume they might look similar to Guild Wars spirits. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Spirit I could see revenant losing its legend swap to gain the ability to summon lesser spirits with it's F-abilities and the legend you choose to have out determines the lesser spirits you summon. Edited August 3, 2021 by Red Haired Savage.5430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Acyk.9671 said: basically the same gameplay.... If Anet is going to introduce any more spiritual forms, Rev shouldn't be the recipient again. Give it to Necro as the new E-spec looks like Joseung Saja with pistol. Playing with souls or spirits would make sense. "Appease" ? Why should they? Why should war be the samurai? Guard, Rev, Ranger and Thief could also play the part if sightly adapted! Another thing to take into account from a "fashion/design" perspective, there already is a GS skin named Oni blade and the Samurai outfit was offered with a MH Sword and OH Dagger. I may be reaching here but I consider those as hints that samurai should be a class capable of wielding those 3 weapons if there is to be any samurai at all. So yeah quite a lot to think about between real use of Weapons by samurai (bow, spear), the mainstream transcription (sword, dagger), which weapons are available and what it means when it comes to warrior gameplay. I think the bullet is warrior's icon as the shape is similar to what we are used to. I am not an advocate of firearms in general so i would gladly trade pistols for a Short bow, a Staff/Spear or any form of GS skills replacement when playing the new e-spec. Keep in mind that a samurai cannot be a support though. Well the expac is a Asian theme so it makes sense for warrior because samurai were the Japanese warrior class, that is if we're going with Japanese and not Chinese inspired. Thief makes sense to if ur looking at the classes similarities to shinobi of Japanese history, them more often than not being of the samurai class and with shinobi-no-jutsu (ninjutsu) being created by the samurai class. A ronin gs wielding katana hip mounted or dual wield 1h katanas could work as well and be easily themed within the thief spec especially with daredevil existing. Again if going Japanese inspired. Guards with their heavy magical influence makes little sense, same for Rev unless there's a samurai inspired spirit Rev can draw from while keeping its skills also not so heavily magic based. Imo warrior and thief would be the only two that would fit different versions of a samurai. Edited August 3, 2021 by Psycoprophet.8107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Kodama.6453 said: Give thief some shadow creatures to summon which attack from range. Thief and warrior are the classes without an AI skill type (the single skill thieves guild doesn't count). I think a lot of warrior and thief players would like to avoid AI summons like that of necros or rangers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: I think a lot of warrior and thief players would like to avoid AI summons like that of necros or rangers. If I have to suffer through having an entire absolutely unviable skill category (aka turrets), why can't they suffer a bit from that, too? 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, Kodama.6453 said: If I have to suffer through having an entire absolutely unviable skill category (aka turrets), why can't they suffer a bit from that, too? 😛 Well I do agree with ur suffering u can keep ur turrets and the like thank u lol we all know any AI summon is sure to be broken at launch and nerfed into uselessness or just useless on release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Acyk.9671 said: The concept of Samurai can be applied within a canthan design without making an E spec called Samurai. That's what I meant Ahh well that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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