Lurana.7506 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I thought that some of you might be interested in a new series Wooden Potatoes wants to start on Youtube :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greyhawk.9107 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Woodenpotatoes is a false god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kossage.9072 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It's been a nice and informative series so far. WP not only reads out loud the fascinating _An Empire Divided_ document (which any GW1 or GW2 fan should read if they even have an inkling of interest in Canthan lore) but also adds his commentary on top of it to give the text's references some context to ease in people who may not be that familiar with Canthan lore. :)Some of his speculations are quite amusing and/or eye-opening to me such as him discussing the potential fate of the second emperor Yian Zho's two elder sisters in one of the videos in this series. For example, I've always interpreted the text so that Yian Zho may have gotten rid of his sisters (who curiously vanish from historical records weeks after Yian Zho's ascension to the throne in the aftermath of the rather suspicious death of the first emperor Kaineng Tah) so none could challenge his rule, but WP presents an alternate theory that perhaps the sisters left Cantha with potential like-minded followers and settled somewhere else to found a new dynasty. Both interpretations open some pretty intriguing avenues for plots if the writers decide to explore them more via in-game lore books or otherwise. Just imagine a society with Canthan roots but ruled by women descended from the two sisters rather than following patrilineal succession like the current imperial family does (where the title of "empress" has historically only been bestowed through marriage and has held little real power). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustfinger.9510 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (Wrong post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 @The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt.1796 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 @Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?There is no god but Jesus and his Father, God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 @Drizzt.1796 said:@Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?There is no god but Jesus and his Father, God.I know, hence him being a false god. I just didn't know if you meant that positively like he could be a god if there were a pantheon or if you meant he was like biblical false gods, receiving undue attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt.1796 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 @Fenom.9457 said:I know, hence him being a false god. I just didn't know if you meant that positively like he could be a god if there were a pantheon or if you meant he was like biblical false gods, receiving undue attentionAhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh.4697 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 @Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?I wouldn't say he's a false god per say as he does bring up interesting information from time to time, but I definitely do not think he is the master of lore that some folks claim he is. For example, one of the things about his conversation concerning Icebrood Saga was how he felt Bangar would be a largely sympathetic antagonist and how in his view the Charr were more bestial in nature and did not need to care for their cubs.Both of those ideas have not...aged very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwinLi.1284 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Only God is RNGod!If you want any good loot in this game you got to work your way through the one system that rules all....RNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 @Loesh.4697 said:@Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?I wouldn't say he's a false god per say as he does bring up interesting information from time to time, but I definitely do not think he is the master of lore that some folks claim he is. For example, one of the things about his conversation concerning Icebrood Saga was how he felt Bangar would be a largely sympathetic antagonist and how in his view the Charr were more bestial in nature and did not need to care for their cubs.Both of those ideas have not...aged very well.To be fair that was speculation anyway. But yeah I’ve seen him get a thing or two wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 @EdwinLi.1284 said:Only God is RNGod!If you want any good loot in this game you got to work your way through the one system that rules all....RNG!Don't inflate Zommoros ego any more than it is.. it's hard enough to get anything good from the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcaniaxs.4519 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 The mystic toilet... holds the shinnies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercyclone.1462 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 @Drizzt.1796 said:@Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?There is no god but Jesus and his Father, God.With me being an actual minister I would say your wrong. There are many gods and not everyone worships all of them but if God isnt your god then it doesn't make you any less of a person than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 @Silvercyclone.1462 said:@Drizzt.1796 said:@Fenom.9457 said:@The Greyhawk.9107 said:Woodenpotatoes is a false god.Meaning he seems like a god but is surprisingly not, or that he's wrongly worshiped and praised?There is no god but Jesus and his Father, God.With me being an actual minister I would say your wrong. There are many gods and not everyone worships all of them but if God isnt your god then it doesn't make you any less of a person than anyone else.Ok not to get off topic here but... you’re saying you’re a minister, a Christian one? And you believe many gods actually exist? Not what people worship, but that they’re real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 "Ok not to get off topic here..." then you go off topic.@"Kossage.9072" said:It's been a nice and informative series so far. WP not only reads out loud the fascinating _An Empire Divided_ document (which any GW1 or GW2 fan should read if they even have an inkling of interest in Canthan lore) but also adds his commentary on top of it to give the text's references some context to ease in people who may not be that familiar with Canthan lore. :)Some of his speculations are quite amusing and/or eye-opening to me such as him discussing the potential fate of the second emperor Yian Zho's two elder sisters in one of the videos in this series. For example, I've always interpreted the text so that Yian Zho may have gotten rid of his sisters (who curiously vanish from historical records weeks after Yian Zho's ascension to the throne in the aftermath of the rather suspicious death of the first emperor Kaineng Tah) so none could challenge his rule, but WP presents an alternate theory that perhaps the sisters left Cantha with potential like-minded followers and settled somewhere else to found a new dynasty. Both interpretations open some pretty intriguing avenues for plots if the writers decide to explore them more via in-game lore books or otherwise. Just imagine a society with Canthan roots but ruled by women descended from the two sisters rather than following patrilineal succession like the current imperial family does (where the title of "empress" has historically only been bestowed through marriage and has held little real power).This is a cool idea. I'm excited to see what they end up doing with Cantha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greyhawk.9107 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 ......oy vey, and people accuse me of taking jokes too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercyclone.1462 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 @Fenom.9457 said:Ok not to get off topic here but... you’re saying you’re a minister, a Christian one? And you believe many gods actually exist? Not what people worship, but that they’re real?Yes, I'm an actual card holding minister. I can do funerals, weddings, last rights, exorcisms and all that jazz. I don't believe there are multiple gods myself but just saying some faiths believe there are and who are we to tell them that their faith is wrong. By the way my reply was also a joke. Us minister do have a sense of humor after all. In fact we probably know more priest jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 What?? You folks can private message you know... Anyone for more Cantha talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @Silvercyclone.1462 said:I can do funerals, weddings, last rights, exorcisms... Hopefully not at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drgnfly.5812 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @thepenmonster.3621 said:@Silvercyclone.1462 said:I can do funerals, weddings, last rights, exorcisms... Hopefully not at the same time.IDK, the reception sounds like it would be very memorable. Pea soup anyone! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perihen the Thawk.9527 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 My guess would be that the main story is going to be mostly focused around the saltspray dragons somehow, and that the human empire dynamics will be more backdrop.I have a feeling they're going to play off the contrast between Western myth (Tyria) generally considering dragons to be monsters to be slain, while Eastern myth (Cantha) often considers dragons to be benevolent. Basically, how does the Empire of the Dragon view the Elder Dragons? As far as we know, they haven't had any direct confrontation with the Elder Dragons this cycle, (unless Bubbles has been down there causing havoc this whole time) and the human race that makes up the bulk of the population might never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt.1796 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @Perihen the Thawk.9527 said:My guess would be that the main story is going to be mostly focused around the saltspray dragons somehow, and that the human empire dynamics will be more backdrop.I have a feeling they're going to play off the contrast between Western myth (Tyria) generally considering dragons to be monsters to be slain, while Eastern myth (Cantha) often considers dragons to be benevolent. Basically, how does the Empire of the Dragon view the Elder Dragons? As far as we know, they haven't had any confrontation with the Elder Dragons this cycle, and the human race that makes up the bulk of the population might never have.They are CONSIDERABLY close to Orr. Plus, since some dragons were corrupted by Vizier Khilerbron, who is CORRUPTED . So yeah, they had no interaction with elder dragon corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Drizzt.1796 said:@"Perihen the Thawk.9527" said:My guess would be that the main story is going to be mostly focused around the saltspray dragons somehow, and that the human empire dynamics will be more backdrop.I have a feeling they're going to play off the contrast between Western myth (Tyria) generally considering dragons to be monsters to be slain, while Eastern myth (Cantha) often considers dragons to be benevolent. Basically, how does the Empire of the Dragon view the Elder Dragons? As far as we know, they haven't had any confrontation with the Elder Dragons this cycle, and the human race that makes up the bulk of the population might never have.They are CONSIDERABLY close to Orr. Plus, since some dragons were corrupted by Vizier Khilerbron, who is CORRUPTED . So yeah, they had no interaction with elder dragon corruption. Cantha is nowhere close to Orr. And Khilbron wasn't corrupted, he was just an undead - nor did Khilbron "corrupt dragons" - he turned some dragon corpses into undead. But Cantha was fully unaffected by Khilbron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt.1796 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@Drizzt.1796 said:@"Perihen the Thawk.9527" said:My guess would be that the main story is going to be mostly focused around the saltspray dragons somehow, and that the human empire dynamics will be more backdrop.I have a feeling they're going to play off the contrast between Western myth (Tyria) generally considering dragons to be monsters to be slain, while Eastern myth (Cantha) often considers dragons to be benevolent. Basically, how does the Empire of the Dragon view the Elder Dragons? As far as we know, they haven't had any confrontation with the Elder Dragons this cycle, and the human race that makes up the bulk of the population might never have.They are CONSIDERABLY close to Orr. Plus, since some dragons were corrupted by Vizier Khilerbron, who is CORRUPTED . So yeah, they had no interaction with elder dragon corruption. Cantha is nowhere close to Orr. And Khilbron wasn't corrupted, he was just an undead - nor did Khilbron "corrupt dragons" - he turned some dragon corpses into undead. But Cantha was fully unaffected by Khilbron.Khilbron's corpse was IN Orr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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