Octovine and chak garent are done because they are much more rewarding, not because of the difference in mechanics.Lets compare rewards before making baseless claims:Octovine: amalgamated gemstone 5-6 rares requiring keys to open. Requires 100% participation to break even on the 5 keys. Near zero chance at a infusionJR or Maws of Torment: amalgamated gemstone 3 rares, 2 chest that do not required keysChak gerent: amalgamated gemstone no rares, near zero chance at a infusionForging fire or serpents ire: amalgamated gemstone, 3 raresCasino blitz: amalgamated gemstone, 3 rares, near zero chance at infusion.All rewards are very comparable, and all are better than the world boss chain, the hordes favorite farm. So cherry pick what are "rewards". Ok. Nevermind then.