Sahne.6950 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) S+-Tier: Harbinger Everything Celestial Pocketguard ; Pocketscrapper; basicly any pockethealer A-Tier: Condibunkers anything with enough stealth+mobility to run away from the Condibunkers "what are you doing with your life" -tier: The rest. i honestly think thats pretty accurate. Alot of builds work in Roaming, but most of them will hit a brickwall when they meet the next semicompetent "cele-enjoyer". Edited May 5, 2022 by Sahne.6950 8 4 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Thankfully there are a lot of f-tier players 🙃 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus.5672 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I assume you are not talking about solo roaming, cause no pure healing build is good for that. Also shadow arts d/p daredevil still is elder god tier, cause u can get away with pretty much anything, you may not kill the peepos running cele and tb but you wont die either, and you can still troll and harass them as much as you want and just reset the fight/stealth away when needed. 🙃 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, lotus.5672 said: I assume you are not talking about solo roaming, cause no pure healing build is good for that. Also shadow arts d/p daredevil still is elder god tier, cause u can get away with pretty much anything, you may not kill the peepos running cele and tb but you wont die either, and you can still troll and harass them as much as you want and just reset the fight/stealth away when needed. 🙃 thats why Thief is A tier^^ you can not touch the cele enjoyers, but they also cant touch you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 My personal objective tier list for roaming IF I've met some roamers that actually are roamers roaming alone, which is already a rarity among rarities these days: S+ tier: Harbinger, Daredevil; S tier: Soulbeast, Deadeye, Mirage, Renegade; A tier: Tempest, Weaver, Druid, Necromancer, Firebrand, Thief, Scrapper, Holosmith, Mechanist, Vindicator; B tier: Spellbreaker, Untamed, Reaper, Dragonhunter, Willbender, Chronomancer, Virtuoso, Herald; C tier: Catalyst, Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Specter, Mesmer; Trash tier: Elementalist, Berserker, Bladesworn, Scourge, Engineer, Revenant; By objective I mean that "overall as a spec", not mentioning very specific builds, since that list would be like 30x bigger. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) Next big wvw patch: deletes every stat type other than minstrel. Gameplay: doesn't really change. dynamic and exciting ACTION GAME Edited May 5, 2022 by Hotride.2187 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said: Next big wvw patch: deletes every stat type other than minstrel. Gameplay: doesn't really change. dynamic and exciting ACTION GAME Honestly it would be easier to balance around full celestial for everyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryxis.6950 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: My personal objective tier list for roaming IF I've met some roamers that actually are roamers roaming alone, which is already a rarity among rarities these days: S+ tier: Harbinger, Daredevil; S tier: Soulbeast, Deadeye, Mirage, Renegade; A tier: Tempest, Weaver, Druid, Necromancer, Firebrand, Thief, Scrapper, Holosmith, Mechanist, Vindicator; B tier: Spellbreaker, Untamed, Reaper, Dragonhunter, Willbender, Chronomancer, Virtuoso, Herald; C tier: Catalyst, Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Specter, Mesmer; Trash tier: Elementalist, Berserker, Bladesworn, Scourge, Engineer, Revenant; By objective I mean that "overall as a spec", not mentioning very specific builds, since that list would be like 30x bigger. no way you put chrono two whole tiers above bladesworn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, Justine.6351 said: Honestly it would be easier to balance around full celestial for everyone. lol you are not even pretending power builds exist are you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Gryxis.6950 said: no way you put chrono two whole tiers above bladesworn Ye, how could I put family car 2 whole tiers higher than wooden cart? Possiblen't. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 14 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: My personal objective tier list for roaming IF I've met some roamers that actually are roamers roaming alone, which is already a rarity among rarities these days: S+ tier: Harbinger, Daredevil; S tier: Soulbeast, Deadeye, Mirage, Renegade; A tier: Tempest, Weaver, Druid, Necromancer, Firebrand, Thief, Scrapper, Holosmith, Mechanist, Vindicator; B tier: Spellbreaker, Untamed, Reaper, Dragonhunter, Willbender, Chronomancer, Virtuoso, Herald; C tier: Catalyst, Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Specter, Mesmer; Trash tier: Elementalist, Berserker, Bladesworn, Scourge, Engineer, Revenant; By objective I mean that "overall as a spec", not mentioning very specific builds, since that list would be like 30x bigger. Not a bad list but I think it starts to get muddled near the bottom half. Also as a core Rev enthusiast I take offense to it being placed in trash tier (not really though)! People only think it's trash because nobody plays it lol, but in reality it's not much worse than Herald and has plenty of upsides that Herald does not have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssisis.3971 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Anything with access to a lot of stealth > anything else in terms of roaming. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: A tier: Necromancer C tier: Catalyst Both are equally hard to kill 1v1 and equally slow. Not a threat, but also not worth fighting. Definitely the same tier. Whether it's A or C doesn't matter - there are arguments for both. I'd say C because both can't kill a decent player (he will just leave the fight after 2 minutes). But you could also say A, because it takes ages to kill them 1v1 and if you stack 2 of them and let them focus a single target, they can be dangerous. Edited May 6, 2022 by KrHome.1920 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, KrHome.1920 said: Both are equally hard to kill 1v1 and equally slow. Not a threat, but also not worth fighting. Definitely the same tier. Whether it's A or C doesn't matter - there are arguments for both. I'd say C because both can't kill a decent player (he will just leave the fight after 2 minutes). But you could also say A, because it takes ages to kill them 1v1 and if you stack 2 of them and let them focus a single target, they can be dangerous. Sure, but which one of these two will give you PTSD? Catalyst that only can do some fancy moves while also playing Beethoven on piano for mediocre effects or Necromancer that gives you whole periodic table every few seconds while also stripping you from your dignity in meantime? As I wrote, it's my personal list from my own experiences. XD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: Sure, but which one of these two will give you PTSD? Catalyst that only can do some fancy moves while also playing Beethoven on piano for mediocre effects or Necromancer that gives you whole periodic table every few seconds while also stripping you from your dignity in meantime? As I wrote, it's my personal list from my own experiences. XD Give therapy a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 9:02 AM, Sahne.6950 said: S+-Tier: Harbinger Everything Celestial Pocketguard ; Pocketscrapper; basicly any pockethealer A-Tier: Condibunkers anything with enough stealth+mobility to run away from the Condibunkers "what are you doing with your life" -tier: The rest. It's accurate, and a joke, The developers seem to love it, though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralor.3701 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 10:22 AM, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: My personal objective tier list for roaming IF I've met some roamers that actually are roamers roaming alone, which is already a rarity among rarities these days: S+ tier: Harbinger, Daredevil; S tier: Soulbeast, Deadeye, Mirage, Renegade; A tier: Tempest, Weaver, Druid, Necromancer, Firebrand, Thief, Scrapper, Holosmith, Mechanist, Vindicator; B tier: Spellbreaker, Untamed, Reaper, Dragonhunter, Willbender, Chronomancer, Virtuoso, Herald; C tier: Catalyst, Warrior, Ranger, Guardian, Specter, Mesmer; Trash tier: Elementalist, Berserker, Bladesworn, Scourge, Engineer, Revenant; By objective I mean that "overall as a spec", not mentioning very specific builds, since that list would be like 30x bigger. Pretty much agree with this except you are undervaluing every single elementalist spec assuming they are cele. Catalyst played by a good player is nasty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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