Pirindolo.9427 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 In my opinioon:Spellbreaker will be the worst elite for PVE.Scourge will be a "meh", because it's mainly based on boon corruption and 99% of the PVE mobs don't have boons on them.Weaver it's so complicated (impossible to play for the average player) that it won't be worth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaCoty.5721 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWSoulbeast, > seems to slow to produce any high numbers.Spellbreaker, > Counter-class for WvW and PvPTL;DREles will always be viable in every content because someone at ArenaNet keeps them that way. Whereas other classes fall behind drastically in producing numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOX.3582 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I think the problem here is that almost all new Elite Specs are pvp/wvw'ish, we will see. I remember, the HoT specs also looked a little weird/under-powered before release. Have hope my friend! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbjorne.9368 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yeah, I'd definitely put Spellbreaker and Scourge at the top of that list. As Dakota mentioned Soulbeast and Deadeye might stuggle in open world, but I feel as if they'll be able to put out big numbers in raids/fractals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @DakotaCoty.5721 said:From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWSoulbeast, > seems to slow to produce any high numbers.Spellbreaker, > Counter-class for WvW and PvPTL;DREles will always be viable in every content because someone at ArenaNet keeps them that way. Whereas other classes fall behind drastically in producing numbers.The word "viable" means "usable" which does not imply "fun to use"; not everybody likes to play a healer and not everybody wants to play a 11k HP full zerker build for raids, so I wonder what is left for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaCoty.5721 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Arheundel.6451 said:@DakotaCoty.5721 said:From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWSoulbeast, > seems to slow to produce any high numbers.Spellbreaker, > Counter-class for WvW and PvPTL;DREles will always be viable in every content because someone at ArenaNet keeps them that way. Whereas other classes fall behind drastically in producing numbers.The word "viable" means "usable" which does not imply "fun to use"; not everybody likes to play a healer and not everybody wants to play a 11k HP full zerker build for raids, so I wonder what is left for themTheoretically any class in zerk/vipers can be viable, but meta demands optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraGreen.2345 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Renegade damage was too low for endgame raiding unless its buffed. Its animations look good though it at least is playable.Spellbreaker pvp class all the way feel bad for warriors in pve.Soulbeast who wants to play a melee ranger.I'm a ranger but I have no ranged skills like seriously.I thought daggers would throw daggers or projectiles from distance I hope you rangers like druid spec for a few more years unless something changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraGreen.2345 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Arheundel.6451 said:@DakotaCoty.5721 said:From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWI think deadeye will be great in pve its damage output should easily keep up. Its the best all around class in Pof it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyel.1843 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I think Scourge will be fine as condi DPS and support. The AoE condi damage seems to be massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirindolo.9427 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Nyel.1843 said:I think Scourge will be fine as condi DPS and support. The AoE condi damage seems to be massive. You forget that most of the scourge specific abilities are based on boon corruption. Boons that are not present in 99% of today's PVE mobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil.1580 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Weaver has great potential to squeeze nice dmg, fast bursts, and good self-sustain skills (like barriers and regens).OP is right that it is harder to play than the other professions but it is also very fun, especially d/d and sw/d builds.Spell breaker won't find the optimal warrior setup for pve, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazut.4296 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Pirindolo.9427 said:@Nyel.1843 said:I think Scourge will be fine as condi DPS and support. The AoE condi damage seems to be massive. You forget that most of the scourge specific abilities are based on boon corruption. Boons that are not present in 99% of today's PVE mobs.Only the new utility skills. You still can use corruptions or wells, spectral skills or minions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seera.5916 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Weaver won't be useless in PvE. Just because it's complicated and the average player will likely not play it, doesn't make it useless.No classes will be useless in PvE, actually. Or in any game mode. Some may not be meta, but a class or build is not useless if it's not meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirindolo.9427 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 @mazut.4296 said:@Pirindolo.9427 said:@Nyel.1843 said:I think Scourge will be fine as condi DPS and support. The AoE condi damage seems to be massive. You forget that most of the scourge specific abilities are based on boon corruption. Boons that are not present in 99% of today's PVE mobs.Only the new utility skills. You still can use corruptions or wells, spectral skills or minions. Sure, but if you are not playing sccourge abilities, you will be playing a core necro with some pof flavor and its merry static pets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlyx.6732 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Spellbreaker , scourge PvP specsSoulbeast because the numbers arent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Pirindolo.9427 said:Sure, but if you are not playing sccourge abilities, you will be playing a core necro with some pof flavor and its merry static petsUmmmm essentially most HoT builds played like that in open world pve. Ofc raid is a bit different with min/maxing but that's a topic for another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I am determined to have a good time with Spellbreaker in PvE! Warrior is my main and has always been my favorite. That being said, I truly hope I don't spend all my time begging passing players to res me lol. I didn't have the opportunity to test any of the builds but I can't help feeling that a sniper will be a difficult spec to use in some mob heavy PvE content in regards to Deadeye. Based on what I've read on the forums, whether it is useful in PvE or not, the Renegade will fall by the wayside since most seem to not care for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapthorne.7345 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 deadeye won;t be too great given you need to be totally immobile for maximum dps potential, and spellbreaker looks like it was designed pretty much entirely for competitive game modes, unless PoF monsters are going to have a lot more cc and boons than we've seen before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R E F L H E X.8413 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @Arheundel.6451 said:@DakotaCoty.5721 said:From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWSoulbeast, > seems to slow to produce any high numbers.Spellbreaker, > Counter-class for WvW and PvPTL;DREles will always be viable in every content because someone at ArenaNet keeps them that way. Whereas other classes fall behind drastically in producing numbers.The word "viable" means "usable" which does not imply "fun to use"; not everybody likes to play a healer and not everybody wants to play a 11k HP full zerker build for raids, so I wonder what is left for themI dont like to play a healer but I'd damn sure rather play a game with them than without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Spellbreaker takes top slot, like the Scrapper of HoT they are PVP specific and in PVE serve no benefit.Depending on balance changes Scourge could be next since the boon corruption with solid dps won't be tolerated for long. PvP balance will bleed into PVE balance and that will limit the effectiveness of the class. They were already calling for nerfs from the demo.Soulbeast I was hoping would be better, but in most respects so far seems to be the typical ranger left behind. You can't pet swap in beast mode meaning you're stuck with a certain set of beast skill until you leave and reenter beastmode.Deadeye will struggle for it's static stance will limit effectiveness in dps especially when Malice needs to charge up to do any real damage.Weaver for all it's utility the added complication of changing skills on the fly will hamstring it's effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSanta.6527 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 soul beast will be the worst by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Keep in mind that people also predicted (pre-HoT) that chronomancer would be weak (I know, hard to imagine it now). Players will always think up interesting and creative ways to combine skills, traits, gear, and techniques. It's way too soon, imo, to make any definitive statements about future uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debaros.1635 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 @SaraGreen.2345 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:@DakotaCoty.5721 said:From a meta perspective:Deadeye, > self explanatory, a build for PvP/WvWI think deadeye will be great in pve its damage output should easily keep up. Its the best all around class in Pof it looks like.Ewww no, as a Thief main for years deadeye is an abomination that should never of been.Holosmith is the best all round. Great in PvP/WvW, and most likely great in PvE damage numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yargesh.4965 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Or just let time pass for people to play and get to know the different abilities that the number crunchers don't take into account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irreverent.3594 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Will see about useless. Spellbreaker and Deadeye are my favourites and i PvE only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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