Seperta.2975 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 If we dont get a Charr Tank skin for the turtle ill be very dissapointedhttps://imgur.com/a/LGDvC4N 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I hope not. It would invalidate the entire concept of the siege turtle. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seperta.2975 Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 I mean, the Synergetics hoverbike / Gyrocycle didn't invalidate the skimmer and the beetle , its just a skin after all 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Seperta.2975 said: I mean, the Synergetics hoverbike / Gyrocycle didn't invalidate the skimmer and the beetle , its just a skin after all No, but those didn't have lore behind them whereas the siege turtle does. 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seperta.2975 Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 we have candycanes and christmas cookies that can kill elder dragons, i dont think lore is a restriction for skins, but this is a topic ive seen many bump heads over... neither of us will concede, soo lets leave it at that 😛 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harak.8397 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Adding my voice for Charr tank Siege turtle skin ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: No, but those didn't have lore behind them whereas the siege turtle does. But we have lore behind Charr tanks, too. So legitimately confused here. Edited October 18, 2022 by Gibson.4036 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I think the real problem is that the Charr tank wouldn't really be a reskin. Mount skins keep the same animations and skeleton of the mount they reskin. A Charr tank doesn't have legs to move, and would need wheels that turn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Gibson.4036 said: But we have lore behind Charr tanks, too. So legitimately confused here. Why, then, make the siege turtle at all? They could have just made some sort of generic siege thing that could be reskinned in a multitude of ways. But they didn't. They chose to make the siege turtle because it fit within the existing lore that surrounded Cantha. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: Why, then, make the siege turtle at all? They could have just made some sort of generic siege thing that could be reskinned in a multitude of ways. But they didn't. They chose to make the siege turtle because it fit within the existing lore that surrounded Cantha. So it's the GW1 lore that changes that? Because we actually do have in game lore for griffons, skyscales, and rollerbeetles and they have some drastic reskins. I still don't get the objection. We had Charr tanks in the game that do the same things (CC/Siege/AoE) that turtles do, and can be ridden by multiple people, before we had GW2 siege turtles. I don't get how letting players switch them out to one lore friendly appearance would harm the lore of the other. Edited October 18, 2022 by Gibson.4036 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I’m ok with it as long as the animations line up or are adjusted to work so they don’t look odd on the turtle. I know some premium mounts have adjusted animations, but I wonder if this would be too big for a skin. If it didn’t, perhaps something new that has that charr industrial steampunk look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: No, but those didn't have lore behind them whereas the siege turtle does. The skimmer ranch where you get your skimmer is very much a lore source of them. The beetle has a full on quest helping Gorrik grow it for you. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seperta.2975 Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 he was refering to the Synergetic skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Seperta.2975 said: we have candycanes and christmas cookies that can kill elder dragons, i dont think lore is a restriction for skins, but this is a topic ive seen many bump heads over... neither of us will concede, soo lets leave it at that 😛 Indeed. If the Doctor Moreau Pegacorn monster griffon skin didn't put the idea of lore friendly mount skins to bed, I’m not sure what did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Why, then, make the siege turtle at all? Considering how disappointing the siege turtle was, I'd say that this sums it up quite nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausar.9542 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Seperta.2975 said: If we dont get a Charr Tank skin for the turtle ill be very dissapointedhttps://imgur.com/a/LGDvC4N That pretty cool idea for a skin. Would be a must buy for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausar.9542 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 6 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Why, then, make the siege turtle at all? They could have just made some sort of generic siege thing that could be reskinned in a multitude of ways. But they didn't. They chose to make the siege turtle because it fit within the existing lore that surrounded Cantha. Other skins get transmodified as well, such as the Unicorn Griffin skin, or that Cyber Beetle skin, or the Jetbike Skimmer skin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 9 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: Why, then, make the siege turtle at all? They could have just made some sort of generic siege thing that could be reskinned in a multitude of ways. But they didn't. They chose to make the siege turtle because it fit within the existing lore that surrounded Cantha. Jackal Lore, Warclaw Lore, Skyscale Lore, Roller Beetle: A once-humble scarab beetle, bulked up to phenomenal size and strength by asuran science. And all mounts have skins that are totally unrelated to their original looks/concepts. Rather weak argument to single out just the Siege Turtle as unsuitable for reskinning because of some "lore". 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: I hope not. It would invalidate the entire concept of the siege turtle. There are a ton of skins that are not the base species - birds for raptors, lizard for springers, robot for skyscales, hedgehog for beetles etc. Why not a tank for a siege turtle? Edited October 19, 2022 by HotDelirium.7984 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seperta.2975 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 That was exactly my point ! and you know people do love them charr tanks ! i can atleast speak for my self that when i saw them charr tanks my first thought was " I want one" lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalavier.1097 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 2:59 PM, Gibson.4036 said: I think the real problem is that the Charr tank wouldn't really be a reskin. Mount skins keep the same animations and skeleton of the mount they reskin. A Charr tank doesn't have legs to move, and would need wheels that turn. Siege devourer is a better option over tank, in keeping with legs instead of wheels. But honestly, every single mount has a variety of variants both in pattern and body type, and then a few to several that are explicitly not the same species as the base mount. On 10/19/2022 at 3:29 AM, HotDelirium.7984 said: There are a ton of skins that are not the base species - birds for raptors, lizard for springers, robot for skyscales, hedgehog for beetles etc. Why not a tank for a siege turtle? Instead of birds I'd go for the fluffy fox-like raptor :D. but yeah. Also there is turtle for skimmer. Though it's not a hedgehog for beetle, but a pangolin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kalavier.1097 said: Siege devourer is a better option over tank, in keeping with legs instead of wheels. Very different skeleton though. Four more limbs, if you count the tails, and hinged completely differently. 25 minutes ago, Kalavier.1097 said: But honestly, every single mount has a variety of variants both in pattern and body type, and then a few to several that are explicitly not the same species as the base mount. Some are completely different species, but they all seem to be built on the same rig as the original mount they reskin. Even the synergetics hoverbike, which looks like it's so different from skimmer, moves like the skimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anninke.7469 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gibson.4036 said: Very different skeleton though. Four more limbs, if you count the tails, and hinged completely differently. Some are completely different species, but they all seem to be built on the same rig as the original mount they reskin. Even the synergetics hoverbike, which looks like it's so different from skimmer, moves like the skimmer. So maybe a tank on legs? Hmmm, where have I seen those... 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) On 10/18/2022 at 12:59 PM, Gibson.4036 said: I think the real problem is that the Charr tank wouldn't really be a reskin. Mount skins keep the same animations and skeleton of the mount they reskin. A Charr tank doesn't have legs to move, and would need wheels that turn. 40 minutes ago, anninke.7469 said: So maybe a tank on legs? Hmmm, where have I seen those... 🙂 Yes, a tank with legs. Wonder if a Tachikoma or a Walker or a Steppenwolfs ML-200 can be an inspiration? Edited October 20, 2022 by Silent.6137 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seperta.2975 Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, Silent.6137 said: Yes, a tank with legs. Wonder if a Tachikoma or a Walker or a Steppenwolfs ML-200 can be an inspiration? Spirit of mother will or Soldios Arms forts from Armored core for answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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