EoD is a mistake!!!

[Carnage.6751]

Just now, Sobx.1758 said:

At no point I've "dismissed all raids".

Yeah because all raids for you escort mission and waiting npc to go A point to B right?While they putting copy paste models to small area for players to pile on boss and kill or die and pass to new boss and grind crystals for ascended items.

[Sobx.1758]

1 minute ago, Carnage.6751 said:

Yeah because all raids for you escort mission and waiting npc to go A point to B right?While they putting copy paste models to small area for players to pile on boss and kill or die and pass to new boss and grind crystals for ascended items.

Why do you keep repeating "all raids"? When did I say anything about "all raids being escorts"? What I said is: (...)the release of cm strikes which easly fit within the raid encounter design while scrapping the escort snoozefest and waiting for npcs to walk to the next boss.

Focus on what I said and stop making up what I clearly didn't say.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Carnage.6751]

14 minutes ago, lezbefriends.7516 said:

Literally all MMOs are offering less for more money over time. This is because their main focus of improvement is graphics.

 

I believe the only reason ANet did this though, is because they were forced to rush out the expansion last minute, as they weren’t planning on making one. (Hint: the players demanded one.)

Example?

[Randulf.7614]

11 minutes ago, BumboJumbo.1308 said:

Then don't buy eod... 

Also you've identified problems with the expansion but haven't offered any solutions. What's the point of this post?

To trigger and bait people. Seems they succeeded. 

[Heibi.4251]

Sorry, but if someone(the OP) hasn't purchased and played the actual expansion I see little reason to listen to them.

1. you haven't experienced the actual story

2. you haven't played in any of the zones

3. you seem to base some of your reasoning on pvp or wvw - even knowing that ANET has plans for WvW and is currently working on it.

4. you will continue to remain ignorant of what is actually in the expansion and thus anything you say beyond your pvp/wvw experience(I play in both - heavily, as well as pve) is moot.

5. if you actually had purchased the expansion I might have payed more attention to your other replies.

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

1 hour ago, Carnage.6751 said:

-An expansion with less content than last 2 expansions and still asking of total price of last 2 expansions.

-Absolute busted and bloated and streamlined professionals created as eyecandy and meta definer so people have to buy them for stay relevant.

-Absolute terrible story with lame villians with bad callbacks and fanservice

-Mechanist

-Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions.

-Terrible Stardew Valley rip-off fishing mechanic.

-No new content to PvP and WvW. 

-Since EoD release all they bring cycled content for fanboy to clap about.

 

This is obvious this expansion doesn't make for improve to game.İts made for how much we can sell more with least effort.And still I refuse to buy this expansion.Unfortunatelly as a pvp player EoD's putrid classes made to pvp worse than ever.They are created this professions as power trip.And this season its obvious game running at autopilot.

1. What do you mean? Heart of Thorns story was incredibly rushed, and is only decent because LWS2 came before it and LWS3 came after it.. Path of Fire story was good, but the open-world maps were extremely lacking. End of Dragons has a longer and more fleshed out story than both, and its open-world maps are at least on par with PoF, with several of them being more akin to HoT.

2. This was the case with the previous two expansions, as well. In fact, the elite specs from PoF were the worst in the entire game, and brought great harm to the game for many years. Even Firebrand was just only recently brought down in power after half a decade. Many of us got tired of LF HB or scrub.

3. Scarlet Briar and Balthazar were both worse than anything in End of Dragons. For once the EoD villains (Mai, Li, Ankka, and so on) were all realistic and fleshed out. They felt like real people, not comic book villains. I don't like him but Li felt the most realistic of any villain we've ever had.

4. Machinist brought some neccessary changes to the entire meta. It made people realise what was wrong with the meta and helped the devs find some ways to fix it. If Machinist never existed, every group would still be "LF HB" because prior to Machinist, the idea of a class being way over the top didn't seem to occur to anyone, even though it was a very real problem going all the way back to  Chrono in HoT.

5. Strikes are a snorefest only for experienced players. Inexperienced players can barely complete them, and may wipe dozens of times before even getting a single clear. This is some of the hardest content in the game behind raids. If anything, the IceBrood Saga strike missions are far worse than those from EoD, and should be reworked.

6. I thought the problem with fishing is that most players felt it was too different from other games, not because it was too similar? Most of the complaints were "its trying to be too original".

7. You're completely right on this one. I'd also add: No new runes and sigils. Both are major problems.

8. Bringing back LWS1 has nothing to do with EoD. its because for years the game was bleeding new players like a salve held upside down because every time they completed Personal Story and jumped into LWS2 or HoT, they were introduced to a bunch of new characters they didn't know, and couldn't reconcile with. LWS1 may have been old content to you, but remember that 99% of players in this game never played it. To them it was just a massive hole in an otherwise very long and very good story.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Mariyuuna.6508

[Silent.6137]

1 hour ago, Carnage.6751 said:

And still I refuse to buy this expansion.

That immediately caught my eye. Reviews would have been more believable if you actually bought and play it. Kinda like reviewing a movie that you haven't seen. Oh the acting was horrible and the actions were so lackluster.

As it is, it's nothing more than a troll thread to gain attention.

I happen to like EoD, faults and all. Guess that makes me a fanboy...wait, what exactly is a fanboy?

[Ashen.2907]

I enjoy the strikes and a couple of the elite specs, otherwise don't care for EoD. The new masteries are underwhelming (to say the least) and are far below the major expansion feature of each of the previous two expacs. The story makes a below average Smurf cartoon episode seem award worthy in comparison. The characterization is abysmal. The pacing even worse. The aesthetics of glowing jade everywhere you look, even in the most remote portions of the barely settled Echovald, is awful. New Kaineng seems largely unlived in and is designed in a manner that would not actually serve its denizens. 

All my opinion of course but I will not be prepurchasing the next expac and will be waiting until it goes on sale to buy at all if EoD is what ANet considers to be decent value.  

PS: removing rewards from  festivals in order to prop up shoddy expac mechanics adds to the discontent.

[soul.9651]

38 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said:

And people defending This decision by " But we are seeing same story over and over".YES because they write a story for this Raids and Fractals .

Are they tho.. i can bet that at least some of those commentators never stepped Into the raid. Yet they are the loudest. In reality plenty of people that i know who raid and do any other end game content including even strike cms, ALL  of them would like to see a new raid wing or more attention from anet for fractals.. unlike people at forums who most i bet dont even do that much of ANY end game content yet they cry the loudest.

I know even some who quit the game just because there are no new content for them which they like to do (the raids..) or , with each change they did to fractals starting from the moment they removed mc and changed mystic clovers, some left fractals aswell.. well thankfully they havent killed fractals fully just yet and its still good gold source. At least yet.. but who knows in the future

Edited January 2, 2023 by soul.9651

[Randulf.7614]

1 minute ago, Ashen.2907 said:

I enjoy the strikes and a couple of the elite specs, otherwise don't care for EoD. The new masteries are underwhelming (to say the least) and are far below the major expansion feature of each of the previous two expacs. The story makes a below average Smurf cartoon episode seem award worthy in comparison. The characterization is abysmal. The pacing even worse. The aesthetics of glowing jade everywhere you look, even in the most remote portions of the barely settled Echovald, is awful. New Kaineng seems largely unlived in and is designed in a manner that would not actually serve its denizens. 

All my opinion of course but I will not be prepurchasing the next expac and will be waiting until it goes on sale to buy at all if EoD is what ANet considers to be decent value.  

PS: removing rewards from  festivals in order to prop up shoddy expac mechanics adds to the discontent.

I wholeheartedly smurf this review. The smurfest maps in the game for smurf.

[Carnage.6751]

7 minutes ago, Mariyuuna.6508 said:

1. What do you mean? Heart of Thorns story was incredibly rushed, and is only decent because LWS2 came before it and LWS3 came after it.. Path of Fire story was good, but the open-world maps were extremely lacking. End of Dragons has a longer and more fleshed out story than both, and its open-world maps are at least on par with PoF, with several of them being more akin to HoT.

2. This was the case with the previous two expansions, as well. In fact, the elite specs from PoF were the worst in the entire game, and brought great harm to the game for many years. Even Firebrand was just only recently brought down in power after half a decade. Many of us got tired of LF HB or scrub.

3. Scarlet Briar and Balthazar were both worse than anything in End of Dragons. For once the EoD villains (Mai, Li, Ankka, and so on) were all realistic and fleshed out. They felt like real people, not comic book villains. I don't like him but Li felt the most realistic of any villain we've ever had.

4. Machinist brought some neccessary changes to the entire meta. It made people realise what was wrong with the meta and helped the devs find some ways to fix it. If Machinist never existed, every group would still be "LF HB" because prior to Machinist, the idea of a class being way over the top didn't seem to occur to anyone, even though it was a very real problem going all the way back to  Chrono in HoT.

5. Strikes are a snorefest only for experienced players. Inexperienced players can barely complete them, and may wipe dozens of times before even getting a single clear. This is some of the hardest content in the game behind raids. If anything, the IceBrood Saga strike missions are far worse than those from EoD, and should be reworked.

6. I thought the problem with fishing is that most players felt it was too different from other games, not because it was too similar? Most of the complaints were "its trying to be too original".

7. You're completely right on this one. I'd also add: No new runes and sigils. Both are major problems.

8. Bringing back LWS1 has nothing to do with EoD. its because for years the game was bleeding new players like a salve held upside down because every time they completed Personal Story and jumped into LWS2 or HoT, they were introduced to a bunch of new characters they didn't know, and couldn't reconcile with. LWS1 may have been old content to you, but remember that 99% of players in this game never played it. To them it was just a massive hole in an otherwise very long and very good story.

Pof Story definitelly my favorite because unlike Eod nd Hot they had humanoid villians with clear personality.Rather than RAWr Im draguun ,Im evul" Plotline.I still cant find energy for finish HoT.While I finish to LWS 4 twice.

[Ashen.2907]

Just noticed the line where the OP admits to not even owning the expac. Seriously? 

Expressing distaste for a product that youve purchased and used is one thing (see my own previous post in this thread) but the OP is something else entirely.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ashen.2907

[vares.8457]

27 minutes ago, BumboJumbo.1308 said:

What's the point of this post?

There is none, OP is just trolling and throwing a little tantrum. 

Edited January 2, 2023 by vares.8457

[Sobx.1758]

15 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said:

kitten.EoD Bosses HAVE SAME mindset.Same copy pasted models from EOD Story.I'm sure you recognize playing againts MAİ trin with Scarlett Stand from Eod Story right?Since you have amnesia you don't even remember your last post.Raids isn't have CM?REally this is your defence?CM mode.Like Raids and Fractals doesnt have CM mode right?All your defence is "But CM make it better,But CM make better".You clearly didnt have no idea about raids.While I grind them both and bored to death from Strikes and their lazy kitten copy paste content.

Not once I said anything along the lines of "but cm make it better" (or that "raids don't have cms" ). What I said is "(...)cm strikes easly fit within the raid encounter design", while at the same time they don't have awful fillers like escorts or npcs walking from one boss to another.

Again: stop making up this weird stuff and focus on what I actually wrote. I don't know what makes it so hard for you to understand what I keep writing.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[mythical.6315]

While EoD does feel more hollow to me, I wouldn't consider it a mistake.  They needed a win and this more or less gave it to them.

[Heibi.4251]

1 hour ago, BumboJumbo.1308 said:

Then don't buy eod... 

Also you've identified problems with the expansion but haven't offered any solutions. What's the point of this post?

He's identified problems without actually playing/owning the expansion. That's like saying the car drives terrible but you only have a bicycle and no drivers license and haven't driven the car. 

[Eekasqueak.7850]

I liked EoD's story apart from the touristy bits personally. Do feel like they could have made Kaineng more alive but the map is my favorite aesthetically. I'll judge my full opinion on the expansion when they release more content for it but right now it's more positive than negative.  

[Carnage.6751]

26 minutes ago, Heibi.4251 said:

He's identified problems without actually playing/owning the expansion. That's like saying the car drives terrible but you only have a bicycle and no drivers license and haven't driven the car. 

Dude u have understanding problems?I dont need to buy it for see its effect on to game.Do you think new classes made to raids and pvp better?Do you think it increase to skill ceiling or gave them Aı companies for make to game more casual.PLEASE defend to new professions.Can you tell me they are pretty balanced ?

[Heibi.4251]

5 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said:

Dude u have understanding problems?I dont need to buy it for see its effect on to game.Do you think new classes made to raids and pvp better?Do you think it increase to skill ceiling or gave them Aı companies for make to game more casual.PLEASE defend to new professions.Can you tell me they are pretty balanced ?

To judge the quality and total experience of a release you actually need to own it and play it. Your whining about the effects in pvp are a microcosm of EOD's total release.  

That maps are beautiful, events are fun, end meta is a challenge, and the story is really a nice wrap up of the whole of the dragon story arc.

 

Now, you would at least have credibility if you had any experience in the new expansion beyond the super-enclosed pvp experience. PVP is very limited in its entirety.

[AliamRationem.5172]

3 hours ago, Carnage.6751 said:

-An expansion with less content than last 2 expansions and still asking of total price of last 2 expansions.

-Absolute busted and bloated and streamlined professionals created as eyecandy and meta definer so people have to buy them for stay relevant.

-Absolute terrible story with lame villians with bad callbacks and fanservice

-Mechanist

-Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions.

-Terrible Stardew Valley rip-off fishing mechanic.

-No new content to PvP and WvW. 

-Since EoD release all they bring cycled content for fanboy to clap about.

 

This is obvious this expansion doesn't make for improve to game.İts made for how much we can sell more with least effort.And still I refuse to buy this expansion.Unfortunatelly as a pvp player EoD's putrid classes made to pvp worse than ever.They are created this professions as power trip.And this season its obvious game running at autopilot.

Mostly accurate, albeit whiny and overdramatic.