Nikola.3841 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Raid sellers have to congratulate them, they're only ones grouping around common interest 4 5 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 They managed to build afk farmers aswell 3 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, soul.9651 said: They managed to build afk farmers aswell Yes, but they're the opposite of "community"...afk farmers are solo bunch 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, soul.9651 said: They managed to build afk farmers aswell Nah that has existed at it's fullest scale in Silkroad Online. I used to sell Shiro kills in GW1 as a main income so maybe it is part of GW2's legacy to have such things. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Yes, because no guilds exist in this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcShriek.5829 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Doggie.3184 said: Nah that has existed at it's fullest scale in Silkroad Online. I used to sell Shiro kills in GW1 as a main income so maybe it is part of GW2's legacy to have such things. 😛 Shiro Kills weren't that hard. Surprised you were able to make much from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, DeanBB.4268 said: Yes, because no guilds exist in this game. Guilds are not the same as community 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nikola.3841 said: Guilds are not the same as community That depends entirely what you put into a guild and what you expect out of it. My guess is in your case: not a lot. Which leads me to wonder what you care about communities in the first place, you don't seem interested to be part of one. 8 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, DarcShriek.5829 said: Shiro Kills weren't that hard. Surprised you were able to make much from it. Should of seen it when it was the Zaishen Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cyninja.2954 said: That depends entirely what you put into a guild and what you expect out of it. My guess is in your case: not a lot. Which leads me to wonder what you care about communities in the first place, you don't seem interested to be part of one. I'm just using educated comparison, this been like my 10th+ MMO For example, when I used alliance wide shout "My cleric need help with level 50 epic quest" in DAOC, I got over 50 people coming to help (that was about 1h long thing, as those old MMOs didn't have WPs so lots of running and riding) Here, when someone in guild chat asks help with whatever, usually noone responds even when there's 50+ people online) Then again, its entirely possible that I'm in wrong guilds here since beta 🙂 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 GW2 is like a multiplayer singleplayer game. WvW is the closest to an actual MMO experience for the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Nikola.3841 said: Then again, its entirely possible that I'm in wrong guilds here since beta 🙂 What was it you said? "Guilds are not the same as community." Maybe work towards finding a community instead of just another guild to join. So yes, if all you've been doing since beta is cyling through guilds without trying to find communities, then you have been in the "wrong" guilds since beta. Edited January 9, 2023 by Cyninja.2954 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I see people asking and receiving help in open world all the time. Story instances are a different ... story. Those require longer time commitment and might require a lot of waiting just to get to the part where someone might need help with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Nikola.3841 said: I'm just using educated comparison, this been like my 10th+ MMO For example, when I used alliance wide shout "My cleric need help with level 50 epic quest" in DAOC, I got over 50 people coming to help (that was about 1h long thing, as those old MMOs didn't have WPs so lots of running and riding) Here, when someone in guild chat asks help with whatever, usually noone responds even when there's 50+ people online) Then again, its entirely possible that I'm in wrong guilds here since beta 🙂 It's not only possible it's likely. I've played a lot of MMOs too, and in every one of them where I was active in a guild, we had a really strong community. So strong, in fact, that there are people that I met in MMOs from around the world that are on my personal Face Book page and have been for years. We never had to worry about Raid Sellers, because we could fill a raid from our own ranks. Hell, I was part of a guild that didn't do anything but raid, across multiple MMOs. It would be "welp, x MMO released a new raid, time to move over there and hit it". But if you're in a guild that's ignoring people asking for help, I'd say you're in the wrong guild, with the caveat of "if you didn't go help them, you're a part of the problem with that guild". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcShriek.5829 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Mini Crinny.6190 said: Should of seen it when it was the Zaishen Mission I forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nikola.3841 said: I'm just using educated comparison, this been like my 10th+ MMO For example, when I used alliance wide shout "My cleric need help with level 50 epic quest" in DAOC, I got over 50 people coming to help (that was about 1h long thing, as those old MMOs didn't have WPs so lots of running and riding) Here, when someone in guild chat asks help with whatever, usually noone responds even when there's 50+ people online) Then again, its entirely possible that I'm in wrong guilds here since beta 🙂 The number of MMOs you played is irrelevant. What you have been told here is true. You get out of it what you put into it. If you think the only communities that exist in GW2 is raid selling, you aren't putting much effort into being part of any others. Edited January 10, 2023 by Obtena.7952 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephalem.8921 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, soul.9651 said: They managed to build afk farmers aswell And press 1 open world leechers which call reading work and get offended by it. Mentally afk. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakeneko.5826 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said: The number of MMOs you played is irrelevant. What you have been told here is true. You get out of it what you put into it. If you think the only communities that exist in GW2 is raid selling, you aren't putting much effort into being part of any others. That's what you get with multi guild system 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said: The number of MMOs you played is irrelevant. What you have been told here is true. You get out of it what you put into it. If you think the only communities that exist in GW2 is raid selling, you aren't putting much effort into being part of any others. But I'm the same guy I was in DAOC and Warhammer Online, just a bit older. Yet, my facebook and discord is full of guildmates from those games, just recently I met a guy from DAOC in some MMO discord (by pure chance) and he remembers me after 15 years. Here, despite playing from day 1, I barely know anyone (despite playing it longer than DAOC and Warhammer put together) Edited January 10, 2023 by Nikola.3841 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cyninja.2954 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nikola.3841 said: But I'm the same guy I was in DAOC and Warhammer Online, just a bit older. Yet, my facebook and discord is full of guildmates from those games, just recently I met a guy from DAOC in some MMO discord (by pure chance) and he remembers me after 15 years. Here, despite playing from day 1, I barely know anyone (despite playing it longer than DAOC and Warhammer put together) But you are not the same guy. None of us are. DAoC released in 2001, you were literally 22 years younger then (as was I) or at the least 12 years younger if we talk GW2 launch. Your obligations, interactions, personality was I guarantee you vastly different to today. As was your spare time. That is compounded on top of the shift and reach of both games (DAoC versus GW2). The former being a niche game, even if for its time successful, versus the later. Thus shuffling far more players of different types together, thus creating less common ground to bond over unless actively trying to. The same goes for Warhammer Online, which again was niche at best after the original surge of players with a far more focused game experience. There was RvR and PvE dungeons as end game, that was it (with RvR being the dominating aspect I would say, at least it was for me even with me finishing my Lost Vale Swordmaster set being the top 3rd or 4th Swordmaster on my server back then). You are comparing apples to oranges here. GW2 is far more sandbox, or PvE heavy, than either of those games, and far larger at that. As such it can take far more effort to find communities one wants to be part of even with the same approach. Edited January 10, 2023 by Cyninja.2954 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nikola.3841 said: But I'm the same guy I was in DAOC and Warhammer Online, just a bit older. Yet, my facebook and discord is full of guildmates from those games, just recently I met a guy from DAOC in some MMO discord (by pure chance) and he remembers me after 15 years. Here, despite playing from day 1, I barely know anyone (despite playing it longer than DAOC and Warhammer put together) That doesn't change what I said. Different game, different interaction. You only see the raid seller community. You just aren't looking hard enough. I mean, let's just call this thread what it REALLY is ...a thinly veiled complaint about all the raid selling. Edited January 10, 2023 by Obtena.7952 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said: That doesn't change what I said. Different game, different interaction. You only see the raid seller community. You just aren't looking hard enough. I mean, let's just call this thread what it REALLY is ...a thinly veiled complaint about all the raid selling. Not at all...I actually don't do raids at all. What actually made me post it was trying for few hours to get TWO people to help enter Zommoros Lair in Vabbi 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nikola.3841 said: Not at all...I actually don't do raids at all. What actually made me post it was trying for few hours to get TWO people to help enter Zommoros Lair in Vabbi So not only do you not know of communities outside of raid selling who group together to do content, you have no idea about the only community you think exists because you don't do raids. Somehow, people not rushing to your aid for dated content = raid selling being the only community in the game. Makes sense. 🙄 Again ... just a thinly veiled complain about your struggle to play the game with others. Edited January 10, 2023 by Obtena.7952 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola.3841 Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said: So not only do you not know of communities outside of raid selling who group together to do content, you have almost no idea about the only community you think exists because you don't do raids. /gg Again ... just a thinly veiled complain about your struggle to play the game with others. That's not a game issue you know. learn to read, lol...I said its community issue, not a game issue Even your post is proving it...if I made it on DAOC vnboard forum, I'd usually get "hey, log into game and pm me and I'll help" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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