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Meh, I would be satisfied with normal wing + A-Net would need to addjust squad options only so this one instance can fit in.

Also it would be kinda pain as I usually run with a static, so eighter pug 5 ppls for a full clear or get rid of 5 ppls after clearing "your" wing.

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So people can sell it for double the price by 5 manning it or something absurdly lowman?

The last time they made long 10 man content was Icebrood Saga with Cold War and Forging Steel. The uptake on those were low so it just signals to Arenanet that people prefer 5 minute encounters than 15-20 minute ones. For all those people claiming to like challenges, the Forging Steel with full CMs hasn't been done regularly. People obviously want rewards and not "challenge".

5 man content should have been focused on because it is clear that we still haven't had 25 unique fractals and the difficulty tiering is pre-existing. DRMs were a failure in the grand scheme of things not because they were 5 man content but because of how much of a slog they were , there were CMs in those as well.

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I'm meh on it, 5man content is already superior to 10man content and always has been, IMO.

 

Just the fact that you can't revive players in strikes and raids when this game was built entirely around reviving allies irks me, then there's the mirror composition, the increased setup times and twice the awkwardness when builds/roles clash, and the tendancy for one party to inevitably fail once their healer or boon support go down requiring everyone to GG despite the other party still going strong.

 

I'm not sure I really want to multiple these issues (and many others) by 150%. If you're going to go for high-man raids, just go for 25 or leave it 10, or better yet make more 5man content instanced instead that's not either a story mission or an escort-based DRM.

 

We can easily make new dungeons with the same relative difficulty as raids.

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47 minutes ago, Mell.4873 said:

If they can make an LFG queing system work, sure make bigger Raids. 

Dont see the need to add another 5 people to new raid instances.

And even if we did a lfg que system would not make it easier to get the right people for your squad anyway.

Be it 10 or 15 people just start a -- All welcome 2 alac 2 quick 2 heal-- and run with what you get thats what a que system would give you.

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8 minutes ago, vares.8457 said:

A queuing system doesn’t change your time zone 

Well we don't know unless we try, plenty of other games have queing systems. You could even allow people to que as the party leader where they pick the roles.

Right now the whole LFG is filled with Raid sellers. 

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6 minutes ago, Mell.4873 said:

Well we don't know unless we try, plenty of other games have queing systems. You could even allow people to que as the party leader where they pick the roles.

Right now the whole LFG is filled with Raid sellers. 

I just checked the raid LFG, majority of groups in there are not raid sellers. Better they are in LFG than in map chat like in other games. 
If you don’t want to rely on the LFG, you could join a static group that raids in your time zone. 

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1 hour ago, Mell.4873 said:

We need to not have people waiting an hour plus just to do a Strike/Raid.

True, but I don't see how this is relevant to anything, seeing how usually that's not how long it takes to fill those squads.

49 minutes ago, Mell.4873 said:

Well we don't know unless we try

What do you mean "we don't know"? We do know that, since adding a queue doesn't magically increase player count in off-peak hours.

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23 hours ago, Sobx.1758 said:

True, but I don't see how this is relevant to anything, seeing how usually that's not how long it takes to fill those squads.

What do you mean "we don't know"? We do know that, since adding a queue doesn't magically increase player count in off-peak hours.

Is just my opinion.

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5 minutes ago, Mell.4873 said:

Is just my opinion.

What's your opinion? That people wait for hours for squads to fill up? You can't try repainting reality over and over again and when called out on it, still pretend it's correct "because it's your opinion", that's not how it works.

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21 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

What's your opinion? That people wait for hours for squads to fill up? You can't try repainting reality over and over again and when called out on it, still pretend it's correct "because it's your opinion", that's not how it works.

Well, it is....
I mean we have no game stats anything close to LFG wait times. It takes me and Hour to organise a Strike/Raid, IBS is quicker though.

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