Interpretor.3091 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 WARNING: shitposting Incoming.. Spvpmode only. Use ranks S-D, S being best/meta, and F being absolute shit. Explain if you want.Rank SScourgeFirebrandMirageRank ASpellbreakerHolosmithDaredevil/Core D/pRank BDragonhunterCore WarriorS/D thiefSoulbeastDruudCondi mesRank CScrapperReaperBurn guardianPP thiefScepter EleStaff DaredevilHerald RevCondi thiefCore guardianGS MesmerRank DWeaverVentari RevCondi warriorCondi thiefcondi EngiCore NecroRank FEverything else/rest of core/HoT specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Pretty good list, would move druid up to A as spellbreaker nerfs have given it a pretty solid purpose again. Also no clue why you put core P/D in A tier even if you meant core D/P I haven't really seen it so no idea why it would be that high. Also GS mirage is at least B tier, Zeromis won the NA monthly using it so it can't be that bad. Also weaver should be c tier though there are a bunch of distinct builds people are using with it so lumping them all together probably isn't wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonkain.3984 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I would put soulbeast 1 rank lower that druid, so, rank C. Also you have condi thief listed twice, should be just in C. Also ventari rev is still in C. Scrapper in D since he's clearly worse than ventari rev. Also core ranger = soulbeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 DD/core P/D is rank A? Wat?I wouldn't rate druid so low. They are actually pretty good to troll on point in 1v2.Generally i would specify which build you mean. There are different DH builds, as well as different s/d builds etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonkain.3984 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Oh it's p/d thief in A... lol, should be d/p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Condi Chrono (Dont call it Mes) and S/D thief belong on A tier. Weaver belongs on B Tier along with Core Ele. Mirage is arguably A tier but at the top of the list, solid A+. Popular build Struggles with Explosives Holo and can't match Scourge/Firebrand in teamfighting. Druid is viable side node, on the A tier due to mobility and sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I’m guessing that you mean D/P and not P/D for daredevil, but I wouldn’t put core thief on the same level. I’m surprised by how few D/P thief’s I see, but my guess is that this is largely because of how many people have adopted Deadeye just because it’s new or because the spammy condi and S/P builds are easier to learn. D/P tends to play pretty differently than most PvP builds from a strategic perspective and there’s not a lot of guides for new players to learn this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragion.2831 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Lol this ranking is actually pretty accurate. Herald rev is actually c rank ffs. I like how the only revenant builds are c and below. Its so funny because this class was complained about the most at the start of HoT. Then Anet had to nerf it 2 years straight"To bring it in line with other classes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 DH sucks. The core radiant build on meta battle is superior for Guardians but neither would be higher then B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 GS Mes, burn guard, and condi thief should be at least B imo.You can't ignore those specs when they are in a team fight unless u want to get 100-0d in a single combo. They are also great 1v1. Those were some of the strongest specs easily pre POF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 @Ragion.2831 said:Lol this ranking is actually pretty accurate. Herald rev is actually c rank kitten. I like how the only revenant builds are c and below. Its so funny because this class was complained about the most at the start of HoT. Then Anet had to nerf it 2 years straight"To bring it in line with other classes"People don't like getting spawn camped ebg. That's the only reason I can see for its nerfs. Season 1-4 when the majority of the nerfs happened it was never even the top 3 performing specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartarus.1082 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 @Dahkeus.8243 said:I’m guessing that you mean D/P and not P/D for daredevil, but I wouldn’t put core thief on the same level. I’m surprised by how few D/P thief’s I see, but my guess is that this is largely because of how many people have adopted Deadeye just because it’s new or because the spammy condi and S/P builds are easier to learn. D/P tends to play pretty differently than most PvP builds from a strategic perspective and there’s not a lot of guides for new players to learn this.I also think the uc nerf pushed a decent amount of people away from the spec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpretor.3091 Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I meant D/p guys. Its mobility is unparalleled and will always make it a top tier spvp class. Mesmer is probably the class I know the least about so ty Chaith for suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbroe.4329 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 S-Scourge-FirebrandAMirageHolosmithSpellbreakerDruidDaredevilB and lower; who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop.8106 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 SScourgeFirebrandSpellbreakerA+MirageHolosmithADruidD/P DaredevilCore WarriorBCore Hammer GuardHeraldWeaverCIrrelevantThe reason I placed Spellbreaker in S-tier is because theres no class that realiably wins a 1v1 against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 SScroogeFirebrand (if paired with Scrooge)A+MirageADaredevil, SD ThiefDruidCore GuardChronoSpellbreakerHolosmithFirebrand (if has no Scrooge in team, but that rarely happens)B and B-ellowEverything else (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 you have deadeye in F? uh what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousNaru.1705 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Good list for the most part except for a few things. Druid is 100% A tier and is a better side node pick over SB, but SB is close and should stay in A. As for your C list there's a bunch of things there that should be in either D or F tier like reaper, herald, and scrapper. Those 3 are actually just useless in a meta where there's always a scourge every game. I have yet to see a non useless rev/reaper/scrapper. Even god tier revs like toker struggle to do anything in this meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Smiles.8951 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 would definitely move dh lower. and move WS druid up to A at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukia.9860 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 @Ragion.2831 said:Lol this ranking is actually pretty accurate. Herald rev is actually c rank kitten. I like how the only revenant builds are c and below. Its so funny because this class was complained about the most at the start of HoT. Then Anet had to nerf it 2 years straight"To bring it in line with other classes"Herald is beyond horrible, imo you are literally throwing the game by playing 1.@OP P/P is very effective and directly counters scourge, a good P/P thief will run an entire enemy team through the ground if there is no heavy reflects / projectile hate up. Even if there is, you should be running DD and can still decap very well. I put it at least rank B with rank A potential.Also core D/P is not near DD D/P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soltar.9643 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Dont underestimate Rev, he could be easily Rank A or B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rank eleven monk.9502 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I would like to see a separation for condi and power mirage.SScourgeFirebrandASpellbreakerCondi mirageDruidD/P DaredevilHolosmithBPower mirage :DChronoHeraldC and belowEverything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Unbiased collection of rankings based on different scenarios, if you have a problem with any of my ranking..do point out why and I will try to explain my point:Above average player-Team setting- ; -1vs1- ; -Outnumbered-S)Scourge ; Condi Mirage ; Condi MirageFirebrand ;A)Spellbreaker ; Spellbreaker ; SpellbreakerDruid ; Druid ; DruidChrono/MIrage ( condi ) ; Condi Chrono ; Condi ChronoHolosmith ; Holosmith ; DragonHunterDragonHunter ; DragonHunter ;Herald ; Herald ;S/D thief ; Soulbeast ;B)Soulbeast ; S/D thief ; SoulbeastCore Guardian ; Core Guardian ; HolosmithCore warrior ; Core Warrior ; Core GuardianFresh air ele core ; Scourge ; Core Warrior C)Tempest ; Reaper ; ThiefRenegade ; Weaver ; ReaperCore Ranger ;Weaver ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalrat.5493 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 S (is for Scourges)Firebrands with Scourge friendsThe Rest (A-F)Things that have even a small chance of being somewhat fun to play againstI am just so sick of this established S tier. Everything from F to A can still have fun fights, but Scourges (and their support Firebrands) are just still so goddamn monstrously easy to play.I just did a game closer to silver (QQ Scourges vs Power Reaper) and the enemy team had double scourge. They had the collective intellect of a rat carcass. Stood still through heavy channeled damage, were slow on their abilities, sometimes lost 1v1 to a GS reaper...but still, if they targeted you, it was 60,000 condition damage in about 3 seconds and no hope of any boon uptime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 ^ There are two issues with scourge. It is extremely easy to play (put shade on point and press buttons. congratulations). And it scales extremely well with strong support (Firebrand is also brokenly strong, and is perfect at covering scourge's weaknesses). If everyone were a top tier player and firebrand didn't exist, scourge would be balanced, as it's very easy to focus down otherwise, with its game-worst access to active defenses. But this is not the world we live in. Scourge needs some fixes to make it less faceroll. I've suggested making shades not instant damage. make them reactable and avoidable, and then we'd be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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