ArenaNet Staff Rubi Bayer.8493 Posted November 14, 2023 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted November 14, 2023 Today we're giving you a peek at mesmer’s new weapon—the rifle! Rifle is a long-range support weapon packed with healing and tools to help your allies. 4 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Portal gun 😀 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Visuals look good. I can't listen to audio at the moment. Skill 3 seems kind of plain/pedestrian - as if it could be on any weapon? Will have to see in action to know how it specifically ties in with rifle as a weapon. Skill 5 sounds awesome, but I was hoping it would have a one tick gravity well style aoe pull as well. So far so good, looking forward to trying it! 🙂 Edited November 14, 2023 by Curunen.8729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaming.4250 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Super Hayes.6890 said: Portal gun 😀 Yes but will there be cake at the end of testing? 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha.1308 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 could have been a necrostaff with portal effects, meh 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Now we're thinking with portals, my fellow mesmers 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marckan.9526 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Positive: #5 Sounds awesome to use with a coordinated partner in competetive! Negative: these kinds of particle effects will hammer my CPU in competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I was curious how your team would incorporate the rifle in a unique and interesting way that lends itself to the class fantasy of mesmer, and I could not be more pleased with what you guys have come up with! Having a ranged weapon that not only proves much-needed healing and boons, but also allows us to manipulate the battlefield in the iconic mesmer flair is such a great implementation of the weapon, and I can't wait to get my hands on this! Favorite weapon reveal so far, props to your team! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Saulot.4851 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alpha.1308 said: could have been a necrostaff with portal effects, meh What does necro have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Marckan.9526 said: Positive: #5 Sounds awesome to use with a coordinated partner in competetive! Negative: these kinds of particle effects will hammer my CPU in competitive If it isn't pretty and over the top with pink and purple, its not a mesmer 😛 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jijimuge.4675 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 So the science got done and they made a neat gun for the people (who are still alive) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha.1308 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, James Saulot.4851 said: What does necro have to do with this? marks are unused aside from necro portal gun could have dropped portal themed "marks" this would give it space for all 3 game modes like necrostaff mesmer has dead weapons in all 3 game modes 5 skill is already almost a lazy rip of their skill, they already made the necro connection before me not saying this one will be bad, just unfortunate Edited November 14, 2023 by Alpha.1308 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Early feedback: The concept looks very cool with beacon and portal that fits a mesmer commando concept. However, for skills, it is bad to delay the critical boon/heal effect as we learned from chronomancer wells. For skill 3, I suggest you change to this: Immediately apply might/fury on impact and lit a beacon If it expires, it will additionally heal allies. But you can detonate it early to heal allies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alpha.1308 said: marks are unused aside from necro portal gun could have dropped portal themed "marks" this would give it space for all 3 game modes like necrostaff mesmer has dead weapons in all 3 game modes 5 skill is already almost a lazy rip of their skill, they already made the necro connection before me not saying this one will be bad, just unfortunate No... no, I don't think that's right at all... Dead weapons? What? Like the dagger, which is run by every condi virt you see in your raid groups plus more? The axe, beloved by mirages? The staff and greatsword, iconic cornerstones of our ranged toolkit? Swords and shields, both main-hands and offhands by mesmers everywhere, especially chrono? Are we even playing the same game?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Exciton.8942 said: Early feedback: The concept looks very cool with beacon and portal that fits a mesmer commando concept. However, for skills, it is bad to delay the critical boon/heal effect as we learned from chronomancer wells. For skill 3, I suggest you change to this: Immediately apply might/fury on impact and lit a beacon If it expires, it will additionally heal allies. But you can detonate it early to heal allies. The problem with that is then you'd have to nerf the healing and/or boons, because at that point you'd have your cake and eat it, too The point isn't just to provide a "fire and forget" boon/heal, the point is to give mesmers choice as to whether or not they want to fire off offensive boons or some much-needed healing, depending on how the fights going Having that delay gives the player a moment to consider the choice of which one they want, and adds for more interesting and deep gameplay than simply a fire and forget skill like you're suggesting 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha.1308 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, LichOverlord.6329 said: Are we even playing the same game?! so.... to counter my point of unused stuff, you only mention the used stuff.... are you... reading? tell me what effectively uses scepter and isn't basically a meme torch is underwhelming at best and those two are essentially bad in all 3 modes and GS is almost unused in pve aside from meme tagging i didnt say they all are bad all the time (again, except the two you shockingly didn't mention) and im not saying rifle will be im just saying if this is usable in all 3 game modes, it'd be more beneficial and im not even saying it wont be, im just concerned because of everything else going on in the class how long have we had mental defense trait dead useless? who is picking virt aoe stunbreak skill and which game mode? is anyone using any mirage utility skills? this is a broader issue that im concerned about when stuff is dumpstered and left there Edited November 14, 2023 by Alpha.1308 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosySefein.8072 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I hope to god at least ONE skill is a blink away, or a gap creator. Warrior rifle 4 has a gap creator. Engineer rifle 5 has a leap. Deadeye rifle 4 has a blink back. WE NEED a skill that distances us otherwise this is gonna be a horrible weapon for small scale WvW and PvP. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKatt.6740 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Alpha.1308 said: torch is underwhelming at best I kinda wish I knew how to share builds because I have exactly ONE build that uses a torch, and it's a pure invisibility build. I have all the skills and all the traits that give me invisibility in one build and that includes the torch, giving me, not counting recharges, about 35-ish seconds of invisible uptime. Untargetable, unknowable, untouchable. Of course....it literally does nothing else. It's more of a meme build which really just kinda backs up what you said. There's really no use for torch unless you're really desperate to add a modicum of fire damage to your build. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xion.5694 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Well, at least it seems no ally targetting so far. So no immediate disappointment. The beacon seems fine. I'm just wondering how this weapon will work in wvw with unlimited projectile hate fights. Skill 5 and TP to mesmer will be: 1. troll skill (obviously), 1.2 TP to middle of enemy zerg (like necro's Transfusion) 2. There is no valid path to the target (sorry) 3. TP to safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles.5632 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 PORTAL GUN!!!!!!! 😍🤩😍🤩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) I will wait for the other skills but the 2 described could find some use in WvW and already make it really desirable for PvE. Edited November 14, 2023 by aymnad.9023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephidelGRS.9520 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) I can already see some funny jumping puzzle moments with that 5. Imagine a squad of rifle mesmer at jps just shoot and portal each other to the finish lol. Hoping it can summon 2 Phantasms by default, giving Chrono base 100% uptime a la the Greatsword but untraited. Wonder what the Clone skill will be too. Edited November 14, 2023 by ZephidelGRS.9520 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crey.5263 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alpha.1308 said: tell me what effectively uses scepter and isn't basically a meme torch is underwhelming at best Just for the sake of being fair to Anet, they have announced some changes to scepter and torch and related traits for the November 28th patch that might bring them out of obscurity... Edited November 14, 2023 by Crey.5263 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha.1308 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Crey.5263 said: might bring them out of obscurity... lmao coping hard i mean, not as direct offense to just you, because, literally same 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crey.5263 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Alpha.1308 said: lmao coping hard i mean, not as direct offense to just you, because, literally same Alpha, let me dream!!! 🤣 I don't know what it would take to fix scepter torch, but i'm hopeful. Edited November 14, 2023 by Crey.5263 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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