faisal.5108 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Dear Arena Net Team, Can you make sure that all 3 teams have equal population in wvw? its FOW every where. all 3 maps are covered by them. This is totally unfair with other teams. Its looks like 80% of wvw population is FOW. Thanks for your-cooperation. 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 they actually just got a good linking with lots of space and incoming transfers, so soon they can also fill OS and EotM, dw fam 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaidy.1824 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 in t5, we have this atrocity server called WSR. Same thing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riba.3271 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Ìn the past we had single servers, that had their own tiers. So they faced servers with similar population. Now well, you have this. I would suggest to only fight the 3rd server or not play for the week. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoshanlung.3675 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 https://gw2mists.com/matches/eu WSR should probably be in the same tier as FoW, they are born for each other 🤣 But too bad we are experimenting/suffering the 4-week linking now 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, laoshanlung.3675 said: But too bad we are experimenting/suffering the 4-week linking now Why is that too bad? You want 8 weeks of suffering instead? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingDawn.5796 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) People complain about 4 weeks links, but then I just played on Deso for a bit last night, it feels like a server frozen in time, because of no links, no bandwagons and mass transfers out for several months. It's not surprising, it used to get linked and bandwagoned by all sorts of players, alot of them got trained and left, just like me, now people just transfer every 2-4 months and play usually on fotm Alts. Edited November 27, 2023 by CrimsonOneThree.5682 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoshanlung.3675 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said: Why is that too bad? You want 8 weeks of suffering instead? In the context of having FoW and WSR in the same tier, they won't meet this match up was what I meant, my wording should have been clearer 🤷♂️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krill.4902 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Wsr and Fow, met each other many times, it's not new!! Edited November 27, 2023 by krill.4902 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil.2745 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Servers in tier 5 should be happy instead of complaing here. They have the honor to play against the best for an entire week. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh.4568 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Yesterday in EB we (FoW) had a 30ish man squad defending SM against 2 different stacked blue guilds, while a red squad was acting as decoy attacking the keep and the towers. Seems like the population was lively for all the 3 teams. Then if you refer to non-prime time, we probably have more coverage but not that much, we are just more aggressive. We suffer against servers with high coverage especially in the weekend mornings (looking at you WSR). During workdays no one plays in any server so who cares. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingDawn.5796 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Not even T1 has the most skirmishes won, to be fair. Also @Boh.4568 fow lost T2 SM with all the cloud and siege late last night, so you can flip SM even with a server like deso. https://ibb.co/hVDy45H Edited November 27, 2023 by CrimsonOneThree.5682 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaidy.1824 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daredevil.2745 said: Servers in tier 5 should be happy instead of complaing here. They have the honor to play against the best for an entire week. Ofcours, if you think spawncamping is the best..... Edited November 27, 2023 by Jaidy.1824 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil.2745 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jaidy.1824 said: Ofcours, if you think spawncamping is the best..... If they manage to spawncamp you, it means that they are much more skilled players because they kill you near your spwan openfield. Edited November 27, 2023 by Daredevil.2745 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabi black.1824 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 This depends on your point of view. If it's your 40/50 killing their 10/20 enemies, I see little skill and a lot of quantity. But what do you want, usually the garbage( to use the term you like so much ) is always in large quantities. Disposal has always been a problem. 🤭 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila.7456 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Dam, that's crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalal Mawla.3129 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I'm enjoying this relink .. thank you anet please keep doing on whatever you are doing 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenDrake.8316 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 23 hours ago, Daredevil.2745 said: it means that they are much more skilled players because they kill you near your spwan openfield. You are completely ignoring any notion of population mismatch. If you have 30+ roamers running around farming 5-10 people, it's not about skill. WSR has massive queues most of the time, while their opponents (Elona/Underworld and poor, solo Baruch) have queue on one map during prime time at most. It's just not fun to play against the giant locust swarm. And even if they are better - shouldn't the tier system be there to provide a level playing field? I feel like this is the biggest problem. Getting absolutely stomped by either better players or an overwhelming majority is just frustrating. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urd.8306 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 WSR never wanted competition. They could have spread their 100 friends guilds on 5 servers and suddenly would have gotten fights. Instead they decided to map queue together, go on hibernation if they are full (or on alts to annoy other servers) and wait for a new link. That's why you shouldn't play them. Take a week off, play on off-hours. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T G.7496 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 7:22 AM, Jaidy.1824 said: in t5, we have this atrocity server called WSR. Same thing. This is true. I'm on WSR, and with the Anet special of a) link with new vizunah bandwagon server, plus b) opening WSR, it's a complete sheesh show. We didn't need a link and we should have remained full. World Restructuring permanently is months and months and months overdue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil.2745 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 8 hours ago, T G.7496 said: I'm on WSR Enjoy farming noobs! All of yu stacked in 1 place to farm pveers from other servers, it is even easier now when you are opened + linked. Dreams come true 🥰 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat.1628 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 17 hours ago, diomache.9246 said: WSR never wanted competition. They could have spread their 100 friends guilds on 5 servers and suddenly would have gotten fights. Instead they decided to map queue together, go on hibernation if they are full (or on alts to annoy other servers) and wait for a new link. That's why you shouldn't play them. Take a week off, play on off-hours. So by your logic, people shouldn't play with friends but you can, and you can go on hibernation when your vs WSR and play on offhours but we can't take a break to try to get the server open. Aight 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faisal.5108 Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 In Prime time, the FoW takes whole BT maps. and it goes like 5-6 hours, and we are unable to claim back our (BT) home land. not a single tower. the problem is FoW is 50+ in each map. ArenaNet should think about how to make population equal for each team. not sure how, but this is what i believe can be achieved. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urd.8306 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Mat.1628 said: So by your logic, people shouldn't play with friends but you can, and you can go on hibernation when your vs WSR and play on offhours but we can't take a break to try to get the server open. Aight I always play with my friends. Our first plan was to play some Volleyball, but that didn't work out with 8 people in a team. So we got my neighbor, he is ten, but pretty tall for his age. He was the other team. We won btw. And no, I can't play vs WSR, because the whole server and its link are my friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabi black.1824 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Mat.1628 said: So by your logic, people shouldn't play with friends but you can, and you can go on hibernation when your vs WSR and play on offhours but we can't take a break to try to get the server open. Aight But do you realize that you're all piled up there? Do you realize that right now on Wednesday at 13.45 EU you have 77000 K+D while there are other teams in other matches (without a link) that do not reach 30000K+D? If we use a random map limit number, do you realize that you have 80 players on the map and others have 30 players? Constantly 24/7. Can your intuition come close to understanding how the competition is not believable in this way? And when you tell me you're a good player, can you only make me smile? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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