Dreams.3128 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Lilyanna.9361 said:Oh look core engineer got hit because apes on here couldn't decide what exactly to discuss via nerfs for proto Holo. I am so surprised, truly /sTo busy hsting on thieves to do much else, and ranger.It's amazing how it takes a few people to literally ruin the flow of a class and I guranteed those same individuals are SO proud of themselves. Smh. I feel bad for thief and even ranger, because again, like engineer, THEY KEEP HITTING THE WRONG SKILLS/TRAITS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.3120 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @shadowpass.4236 said:I don't understand the logic behind buffing certain skills to overpoweredness then increasing the cooldowns massively because they're too strong.Welcome to the club buddy.And you wont get an answer from them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:Welcome to Prot Holo side node meta and Boyer on a Druid.Maybe not =) Mortar Shot: Reduced power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.85 in PvP only.Poison Gas Shell: Reduced power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.5 in PvP only.Endothermic Shell: Reduced power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.5 in PvP only.Flash Shell: Reduced power coefficient from 1.0 to 0.5 in PvP only.Hard Light Arena: Increased cooldown from 30 seconds to 50 seconds in PvP only.Emergency Elixir: Increased cooldown from 60 seconds to 100 seconds in PvP only.Transmute: Increased cooldown from 60 seconds to 100 seconds in PvP only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I like nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Lilyanna.9361 said:@Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Lilyanna.9361 said:Oh look core engineer got hit because apes on here couldn't decide what exactly to discuss via nerfs for proto Holo. I am so surprised, truly /sTo busy hsting on thieves to do much else, and ranger.It's amazing how it takes a few people to literally ruin the flow of a class and I guranteed those same individuals are SO proud of themselves. Smh. I feel bad for thief and even ranger, because again, like engineer, THEY KEEP HITTING THE WRONG SKILLS/TRAITSYup lol this teams gonna tank this game fast. I'm glad I canned thief, every patch they up the ini cost on skills and if that's the the best anet can think of to nerf thief than by 2021 thief won't be able to use 2 skills in a row on baseline ini lol. Now it u use choking gas and any skill that's 6 ini is no go, imagine 2 skills using ur whole global weapon skill resource lol. Class is already to reliant on preparedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 good patchbut not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 YEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!They touched essentially what needed to be touched:Tornado : checkedLightning Rod: checkedMortar kit: Mother fucking checkedRitual of life: fucking checkedFear of Death: checkedUnholy sanctuary: Mother fucking ckeckedSwoop : checkedCounterattack: SWEET MARY MOTHER OF GOD, CHECKEDChocking gas: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, CHECKEDNext month nerfs thread: "Rev is overperforming! Nerf plz" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistsim.2748 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Excellent patch. Laser-focused on the top 3 issues in spvp. Increased Tornado CD is a cherry on top that I did not expect so soon. Keep going CMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoX.3124 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Revs dodging the nerf like Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @ParadoX.3124 said:Revs dodging the nerf like NeoThis moment when you understand 22 yo reference... damn I m getting old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko.7132 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Overall some very good nerfs. Not sure how rev was missed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 reason why rev is missed probably because after all these classes nerfed, thief can get more play which pressures rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeqkOneStylez.8047 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Still waiting on the firebrand ''tradeoff''it's only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @ParadoX.3124 said:Revs dodging the nerf like NeoWell to be honest I'm glad they ignore the community on some things cuz if the didn't all classes would be nerfed into uselessness with how they nerf lol population would tank even more.Not that they shouldn't ignore themselves either lol.I mean there's even a recent nerf DE its OP thread ffs lol. Next they'll be a nerf dual dagger ele thread lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chungo.3169 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 What I see funny is that nobody complains about p / p meme hibrid condi/stealth with spam thief. Literally the most toxic build I ever faced. : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I am bamboozled by this thief nerf. Is this some weird way to touch condi-thief? Why was the skill changed in the first place...? Just, what.Ranger's melee gameplay is about to become a meme. That is soooo saaaaaaaad. They nerf BOTH attack of opportunity AND the pet damage (but leave birds alone, apparently). Okay. Ranger is useless without doing damage. So why do you insist on giving and retaining bruiser/tank-esque skills like Protect Me! and then gutting all their remaining damage. Players wanted druid to be viable, so guess this is how you push condi druid as the sole viable ranger build, huh.How was revenant untouched? Just, what. Bruh. BRUH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @RisenHowl.2419 said:@bravan.3876 said:@Eurantien.4632 said:@bravan.3876 said:Why they nerfed gazelle instead birds?If you didn't know, birds die. Still the dmg is broken. They nerfed tiger but not bird and went for gazelle instead. Makes no sense to me. attack of opportunity got hit and the tank amulets were removed so longer attrition fights (where the bird shines) are easier to manage. There wasn't any value in fighting the ranger while the bird was up before, now you can sit on top of the ranger and aoe until the bird is dead and still make some headway against the ranger.Why they touched tiger then? And gazelle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psybehr.2518 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 That thief nerf xD as always, just had to nerf teef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme.3164 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @bravan.3876 said:@Eurantien.4632 said:@bravan.3876 said:Why they nerfed gazelle instead birds?If you didn't know, birds die. Still the dmg is broken. They nerfed tiger but not bird and went for gazelle instead. Makes no sense to me. I believe that at the contrary of players..the devs want to keep the professions ...playable to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Supreme.3164 said:@bravan.3876 said:@Eurantien.4632 said:@bravan.3876 said:Why they nerfed gazelle instead birds?If you didn't know, birds die. Still the dmg is broken. They nerfed tiger but not bird and went for gazelle instead. Makes no sense to me. I believe that at the contrary of players..the devs want to keep the professions ...playable to say the leastI hope this is true lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko.7132 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Drennon.7190 said:That thief nerf xD as always, just had to nerf teef.to be fair unblockable aoe daze with poison field is insane. I wish they'd just remove the damn daze they added and reset to base initiative cost though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Zuko.7132 said:@Drennon.7190 said:That thief nerf xD as always, just had to nerf teef.to be fair unblockable aoe daze with poison field is insane. I wish they'd just remove the kitten daze they added and reset to base initiative cost though.This would be a better solution. Anet in the past doesn't usually walk back on decisions even if its ncredibly obvious after that it was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko.7132 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Lighter.5631 said:reason why rev is missed probably because after all these classes nerfed, thief can get more play which pressures rev.Rev is in no way okay just because thief exists. After these nerfs to other classes even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossun.2046 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Glad to see something come out but then again it feels as if it's only made according to the posts here on the forums rather than to actually improve the overall balance in every spec. Like how it was before CMC took over. Feels the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Great! Let's nerf skills for struggling classes like ele, and remove MORE AMULETS. PVP is definitely heading into the direction of "just your loincloth and a stick" So much for diversity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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