Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 this has been around for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Khalisto.5780 said:@Poledra Val.1490 said:To be blunt Engineer as a class right now is utterly busted, its beyond my understanding why Anet does not balance this entire class properly.Not true, considering all elites and core specs, core engi is the worst of all of them, funny enough its elites can make up for all that and pull themselves to top tier list.Tbh they have to overkill holo and kinda nerf scrapper to slowly buff core to bring all 3 of them up together, otherwise one or another elite will end up busted with any attempt of buffing coreThat’s not true at all decap core engi is good enough to play in ats or ranked at a fairly high level and as such is leaps and bounds ahead of core specs like mes war rev and ele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Dantheman.3589 said:@Khalisto.5780 said:@Poledra Val.1490 said:To be blunt Engineer as a class right now is utterly busted, its beyond my understanding why Anet does not balance this entire class properly.Not true, considering all elites and core specs, core engi is the worst of all of them, funny enough its elites can make up for all that and pull themselves to top tier list.Tbh they have to overkill holo and kinda nerf scrapper to slowly buff core to bring all 3 of them up together, otherwise one or another elite will end up busted with any attempt of buffing coreThat’s not true at all decap core engi is good enough to play in ats or ranked at a fairly high level and as such is leaps and bounds ahead of core specs like mes war rev and eleI was not aware of this build, do you know how is it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Khalisto.5780 said:@Dantheman.3589 said:@Khalisto.5780 said:@Poledra Val.1490 said:To be blunt Engineer as a class right now is utterly busted, its beyond my understanding why Anet does not balance this entire class properly.Not true, considering all elites and core specs, core engi is the worst of all of them, funny enough its elites can make up for all that and pull themselves to top tier list.Tbh they have to overkill holo and kinda nerf scrapper to slowly buff core to bring all 3 of them up together, otherwise one or another elite will end up busted with any attempt of buffing coreThat’s not true at all decap core engi is good enough to play in ats or ranked at a fairly high level and as such is leaps and bounds ahead of core specs like mes war rev and eleI was not aware of this build, do you know how is it like?Just use battering ram, throw mine and offhand shield. It’s insanely high knockback uptime + it has the option to rip through stab, so even if it’s not great it’ll win the side node 1v1 just by decapping and keeping the enemy unable to do damage through the knockbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Dantheman.3589 said:@Khalisto.5780 said:@Dantheman.3589 said:@Khalisto.5780 said:@Poledra Val.1490 said:To be blunt Engineer as a class right now is utterly busted, its beyond my understanding why Anet does not balance this entire class properly.Not true, considering all elites and core specs, core engi is the worst of all of them, funny enough its elites can make up for all that and pull themselves to top tier list.Tbh they have to overkill holo and kinda nerf scrapper to slowly buff core to bring all 3 of them up together, otherwise one or another elite will end up busted with any attempt of buffing coreThat’s not true at all decap core engi is good enough to play in ats or ranked at a fairly high level and as such is leaps and bounds ahead of core specs like mes war rev and eleI was not aware of this build, do you know how is it like?Just use battering ram, throw mine and offhand shield. It’s insanely high knockback uptime + it has the option to rip through stab, so even if it’s not great it’ll win the side node 1v1 just by decapping and keeping the enemy unable to do damage through the knockbacksIt seems cancer, i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbe.7630 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Bazsi.2734 said:@"Norbe.7630" said:engi is op, too op, too fasthttps://streamable.com/k0sdscIt's a 2v1. All I can see on this video is someone running into a 2v1 and dying like an open world NPC... therefore irrelevant to the discussion whether engi specs are strong or not. Extra dishonesty points for not showing the damage breakdown at the end.longer video on how OP engi is :) enjoy(recorded at 60fps, played at 144fps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Norbe.7630 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@Norbe.7630 said:engi is op, too op, too fasthttps://streamable.com/k0sdscIt's a 2v1. All I can see on this video is someone running into a 2v1 and dying like an open world NPC... therefore irrelevant to the discussion whether engi specs are strong or not. Extra dishonesty points for not showing the damage breakdown at the end.longer video on how OP engi is :) enjoy(recorded at 60fps, played at 144fps) You are using scepter, IH and you're dodging offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbreaker.6507 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I think decap anything might start becoming the new meta as thing shifts along.I've seen EU experimenting with a decap Druid that, while not the same level of stupidity of the engi builds, is pretty annoying to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbe.7630 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Tharan.9085 said:You are using scepter, IH and you're dodging offensiveNow you know why engis can be OP tooglad i recorded that fightbut at the start i forgot to record on how the engi is faster to decap its like 0.5 second from spawn to a point then starts decappingwell anyway, i dont look at my toons when on a battle, i look at the enemies :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Starbreaker.6507 said:I think decap anything might start becoming the new meta as thing shifts along.I've seen EU experimenting with a decap Druid that, while not the same level of stupidity of the engi builds, is pretty annoying to play against.I think na beat you too it. Someone played a knockback only druid in the mota, hence the mine cart memes because someone stood in a mine cart to stop them from decapping them followed by said person crying and accusing ppl of cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Norbe.7630 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@Norbe.7630 said:engi is op, too op, too fasthttps://streamable.com/k0sdscIt's a 2v1. All I can see on this video is someone running into a 2v1 and dying like an open world NPC... therefore irrelevant to the discussion whether engi specs are strong or not. Extra dishonesty points for not showing the damage breakdown at the end.longer video on how OP engi is :) enjoy(recorded at 60fps, played at 144fps) So you edited clips of you dying to an ele twice togheter with you killing said engi once. Nice troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Norbe.7630 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@Norbe.7630 said:engi is op, too op, too fasthttps://streamable.com/k0sdscIt's a 2v1. All I can see on this video is someone running into a 2v1 and dying like an open world NPC... therefore irrelevant to the discussion whether engi specs are strong or not. Extra dishonesty points for not showing the damage breakdown at the end.longer video on how OP engi is :) enjoy(recorded at 60fps, played at 144fps) I like that hit at 0:58. My favourite "hit even though you're out of range". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbe.7630 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Bazsi.2734 said:So you edited clips of you dying to an ele twice togheter with you killing said engi once. Nice troll.i only edited to show the engi, but if you want the full game i can upload it, you wanna see the slowmo too on how OP the engi is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 @TrollingDemigod.3041 said:@Norbe.7630 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@Norbe.7630 said:engi is op, too op, too fasthttps://streamable.com/k0sdscIt's a 2v1. All I can see on this video is someone running into a 2v1 and dying like an open world NPC... therefore irrelevant to the discussion whether engi specs are strong or not. Extra dishonesty points for not showing the damage breakdown at the end.longer video on how OP engi is :) enjoy(recorded at 60fps, played at 144fps) I like that hit at 0:58. My favourite "hit even though you're out of range".its hard to say, camera at that angle can be REALLY deceptive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Is this a Cuilan thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 @Starbreaker.6507 said:I think decap anything might start becoming the new meta as thing shifts along.I've seen EU experimenting with a decap Druid that, while not the same level of stupidity of the engi builds, is pretty annoying to play against.The issue is that bunkers are too tanky and can delay you for to long while gaining points the entire time. Their only quick counter is decap cc builds as killing them takes far too long regardless of either players skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The typical decap engi is weak to decent condi pressure (think condi druid / rev / mirage) as well as being outnumbered. Tried this last night and it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Oh and petting zoo necros due to the meatshields soaking up the cc, and staff/sword spamming thieves (ya know, the cheese kinds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:The typical decap engi is weak to decent condi pressure (think condi druid / rev / mirage) as well as being outnumbered. Tried this last night and it was great.mirage is not good against decap engi, they generate too much barrier through hitting clones, and mirage lacks sustained damage to push them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:@Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:The typical decap engi is weak to decent condi pressure (think condi druid / rev / mirage) as well as being outnumbered. Tried this last night and it was great.mirage is not good against decap engi, they generate too much barrier through hitting clones, and mirage lacks sustained damage to push them offCondi mirage is good. Ive only seen 2 real decap engis (Not FT or Nade but real decap engi) and they dont have many condi cleanses. They have some resistance (4 sec) and 1 maybe 2 small condi clears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:@Leonidrex.5649 said:@Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:The typical decap engi is weak to decent condi pressure (think condi druid / rev / mirage) as well as being outnumbered. Tried this last night and it was great.mirage is not good against decap engi, they generate too much barrier through hitting clones, and mirage lacks sustained damage to push them offCondi mirage is good. Ive only seen 2 real decap engis (Not FT or Nade but real decap engi) and they dont have many condi cleanses. They have some resistance (4 sec) and 1 maybe 2 small condi clears. I know, but I also know that you dont have to cleanse anything against condi mirage.you wait through confusion burst, and barriers outsustain any sustained damage mirage has.I played the matchup, I watched other play it. Mirage cant win unless serious big fuckups happen on engi side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 @mortrialus.3062 said:Is this a Cuilan thread?Drydude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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