Ogwom.7940 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Yggranya.5201 @sorudo.9054 said:@kharmin.7683 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:@"Linken.6345" said:You think living stone statues would use armor skins really?Yeah, I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritual - If they didn't like it, still the best they could hope for was to delay the effect for a while.So, all of them eventually succumbing to the ritual is not exactly surprising or doubtful. Even so, magic exists in the world. Maybe some sort of quest to find something that would revert the dwarves from stone? Just a thought.they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.I don’t think you can renounce the rite.All the dwarves, including the stone summit turned to stone.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stone_SummitCheck under the History tab and search for the 2 headings, “Legacy” and “The Icebrood Saga”.Read both and it will explain that they all turned to stone, but there does seem to be ancient spells that could potentially reverse the effects?These stone summit tried to reverse the rite but were driven mad and corrupted by Primordus as a result of using Destroyer energy/magic to channel into their rituals.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tome_of_the_RubiconThis is another link to show that it seems to be a race wide transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @sorudo.9054 said:they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.The ritual does not link to faith or nationality. It links to one of the core racial features. The only way to renounce that link would be to stop being a dwarf.Notice, how it affected not only Deldrimor dwarves, that were willing and enacted the ritual, but the Stone Summit dwarves as well - that were definitely not willing, and have already turned to worshipping other entities (like The Great Destroyer, and later Primordius). It didn't help them, and they were still pulled along against their will. Apart from those that let themselves be corrupted (which turned them from being dwarves into dragon minions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Astralporing.1957 said:@"Ashantara.8731" said:I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritualHmm, well, I only know the lore from the game itself, and in GW1 it was depicted in a way that showed only the Deldrimor Dwarves coming together for the ritual. I don't recall any dwarves from distant regions being part of it (or at least shown to be part of it) - or perhaps I just forgot about that vital detail?So if this is the official lore version (as explained in novels, interviews or other outside sources), then of course you are right that there is no chance to find a non-transformed dwarf anywhere in Tyria. However... you forgot about the Stone Summit Dwarves. They were not transformed. That's why I assume that there must be more dwarven groups that weren't affected.P.S. The GW1 Wiki even states that you have to undertake the Rite in order to transform. You are not being transformed automatically just because you are a dwarf: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Ashantara.8731 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritualHmm, well, I only know the lore from the game itself, and in GW1 it was depicted in a way that showed only the Deldrimor Dwarves coming together for the ritual. I don't recall any dwarves from distant regions being part of it (or at least shown to be part of it) - or perhaps I just forgot about that vital detail?So if this is the official lore version (as explained in novels, interviews or other outside sources), then of course you are right that there is no chance to find a non-transformed dwarf anywhere in Tyria. However... you forgot about the Stone Summit Dwarves. They were not transformed. That's why I assume that there must be more dwarven groups that weren't affected.P.S. The GW1 Wiki even states that you have to undertake the Rite in order to transform. You are not being transformed automatically just because you are a dwarf: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dwarf„Eventually, all Dwarves undertook the Rite of the Great Dwarf.“https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/DwarfWhat happened to the stone summit / a splinter group that didn‘t reunite with the deldrimor dwarves (Ingame books found in Forging Steel)https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Books:_Records_of_the_Stone_SummitEdit: From the GW2 wiki (usermade like the GW1 wiki, not everything is necessarily correct)„Eventually, all dwarves were made to undergo the rite—by force, if necessary“https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Transformation_of_the_DwarvesSo, unless there‘s a dwarf group that is completely isolated from the rest, similiar to the Olmakhan, there are no flesh dwarves left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @"Raknar.4735" said:„Eventually, all Dwarves undertook the Rite of the Great Dwarf.“https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/DwarfYes, but that is inaccurate. We saw non-transformed Stone Summit in "Forging Steel".So, unless there‘s a dwarf group that is completely isolated from the rest, similiar to the Olmakhan, there are no flesh dwarves left.See Stone Summit in "Forging Steel".There could be isolated Dwarves, that's what I have been saying all the time. The devs simply have to choose so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Ashantara.8731 said:@"Raknar.4735" said:„Eventually, all Dwarves undertook the Rite of the Great Dwarf.“https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/DwarfYes, but that is inaccurate. We saw non-transformed Stone Summit in "Forging Steel".So, unless there‘s a dwarf group that is completely isolated from the rest, similiar to the Olmakhan, there are no flesh dwarves left.See Stone Summit in "Forging Steel".There could be isolated Dwarves, that's what I have been saying all the time. The devs simply have to choose so.The Stone Summit in Forging Steel is the splinter group that started to transform to stone, the ones in the Records of the Stone Summit.(When we fight them in FS, they‘re already ED minions, fully transformed.)„ The process of recording my thoughts is becoming more difficult. The stone has progressed to my wrist. There is no escaping the Rite, much as I may resist.“They then turned to Primordus to withstand the stone corruption, but this ultimately led to themselves being turned into Primordus minions. They simply overrode the stone corruption with ED corruption.„ The mood has chilled. We speak little. There is a burning within us.This will pass. Like with the stone, we must acclimate to fire.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Ashantara.8731 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritualHmm, well, I only know the lore from the game itself, and in GW1 it was depicted in a way that showed only the Deldrimor Dwarves coming together for the ritual. I don't recall any dwarves from distant regions being part of it (or at least shown to be part of it) - or perhaps I just forgot about that vital detail?No, you remember correctly. What you did miss however was that while only the Deldrimor dwarves initiated the Rite, the Rite itself comes from the connection to The Great Dwarf (which all dwarves have) and through that connection it forces itself on every dwarf out there - including those that were not present. Whether they want it or not.Rite of the Great Dwarf is in reality not the ritual that Deldrimor peformed - it is the process of transformation itself. The ritual had to be done only once (in fact, it cannot be really repeated, because it requires the Hammer of the Great Dwarf, which only the initial group had access to) but it caused an irreversible effect on the whole race, forcing every single dwarf to undergo the transformation.So if this is the official lore version (as explained in novels, interviews or other outside sources), then of course you are right that there is no chance to find a non-transformed dwarf anywhere in Tyria. However... you forgot about the Stone Summit Dwarves. They were not transformed. That's why I assume that there must be more dwarven groups that weren't affected.I did not forget about them - i even mentioned them in my previous post, if you haven;t noticed. Stone Summit dwarves were transformed into stone as well. The ones that didn't are those that managed to stop the transformation via dragon corruption. Which turned them from being dwarves into dragon minions.So, yeah, you can potentially stop or prevent the Rite, but only by undergoing an even more potent transformation. Basically, in order to not become a Stone Dwarf, you need to stop being a dwarf.P.S. The GW1 Wiki even states that you have to undertake the Rite in order to transform. You are not being transformed automatically just because you are a dwarf: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/DwarfYes, you have to undertake the rite, but it's not really a matter of free will. Through the connection to the Great Dwarf you are essentially forced into undertaking it. With high enough willpower you may be able to resist for a while, but ultimately you will succumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 It’s discussions like these that show that a campaign in depth concerning dwarves and Primordus has so much potential - for lore and resolving answers as much as anything else.Sadly I don’t think we will be seeing such a story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogwom.7940 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Ashantara.8731It is already cannon that those stone summit in the Steel Strike mission were turned to stone or partially to stone as they were still going through with the transformation.All of those stone summit that we fought were corrupted by Primordus, as he can only (as we know it) corrupt things such as stone or magma.This isolated stone summit group used Primordus’s energy/magic to reverse/stop the effects of the Rite, yet in doing so allowed them to become corrupted.This is why the stone summit were summoning destroyers to their side as well as exploding in magma when you kill them.Also, there are journal pages scattered throughout the strike mission which actually explains this.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fallen_from_the_Summithttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Books:_Records_of_the_Stone_Summit@Ogwom.7940 said:@Yggranya.5201 @sorudo.9054 said:@kharmin.7683 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:@"Linken.6345" said:You think living stone statues would use armor skins really?Yeah, I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritual - If they didn't like it, still the best they could hope for was to delay the effect for a while.So, all of them eventually succumbing to the ritual is not exactly surprising or doubtful. Even so, magic exists in the world. Maybe some sort of quest to find something that would revert the dwarves from stone? Just a thought.they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.I don’t think you can renounce the rite.All the dwarves, including the stone summit turned to stone.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stone_SummitCheck under the History tab and search for the 2 headings, “Legacy” and “The Icebrood Saga”.Read both and it will explain that they all turned to stone, but there does seem to be ancient spells that could potentially reverse the effects?These stone summit tried to reverse the rite but were driven mad and corrupted by Primordus as a result of using Destroyer energy/magic to channel into their rituals.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tome_of_the_RubiconThis is another link to show that it seems to be a race wide transformation.Here are the links to the information that I already provided to show the lore behind the Rite of the Great Dwarf as well as how all dwarves seemed to be affected.@Ashantara.8731 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritualHmm, well, I only know the lore from the game itself, and in GW1 it was depicted in a way that showed only the Deldrimor Dwarves coming together for the ritual. I don't recall any dwarves from distant regions being part of it (or at least shown to be part of it) - or perhaps I just forgot about that vital detail?The evidence isn’t always going to be in the voiced dialogue of the main story in GW1 or GW2, but it is there in the dialogue, journals, tomes, people, creatures and etc that we encounter during small side quests and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrick Witchblade.7964 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I would absolutely love to play as dwarves and am actually quite interested in Tengu as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasya neko.1985 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Astralporing.1957 said:@sorudo.9054 said:they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.The ritual does not link to faith or nationality. It links to one of the core racial features. The only way to renounce that link would be to stop being a dwarf.Notice, how it affected not only Deldrimor dwarves, that were willing and enacted the ritual, but the Stone Summit dwarves as well - that were definitely not willing, and have already turned to worshipping other entities (like The Great Destroyer, and later Primordius). It didn't help them, and they were still pulled along against their will. Apart from those that let themselves be corrupted (which turned them from being dwarves into dragon minions).the stone summits are deldrimor dwarfs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasya neko.1985 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Ogwom.7940 said:@Yggranya.5201 @sorudo.9054 said:@kharmin.7683 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:@"Linken.6345" said:You think living stone statues would use armor skins really?Yeah, I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritual - If they didn't like it, still the best they could hope for was to delay the effect for a while.So, all of them eventually succumbing to the ritual is not exactly surprising or doubtful. Even so, magic exists in the world. Maybe some sort of quest to find something that would revert the dwarves from stone? Just a thought.they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.I don’t think you can renounce the rite.All the dwarves, including the stone summit turned to stone.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stone_SummitCheck under the History tab and search for the 2 headings, “Legacy” and “The Icebrood Saga”.Read both and it will explain that they all turned to stone, but there does seem to be ancient spells that could potentially reverse the effects?These stone summit tried to reverse the rite but were driven mad and corrupted by Primordus as a result of using Destroyer energy/magic to channel into their rituals.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tome_of_the_RubiconThis is another link to show that it seems to be a race wide transformation.which is all written AFTER GW2 was released, the only reason why is because Anet wanted to get rid of dwarfs altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @sorudo.9054 said:which is all written AFTER GW2 was released, the only reason why is because Anet wanted to get rid of dwarfs altogether.Actualy, it was all written before GW2 was released. That's all the info from the storyline leading to gw2, which was partially already included in Eye of the North. Although, sure, the whole Rite was most likely included into the story exactly because Anet wanted to get rid of the dwarves. Which means it's even less likely any dwarf (deldrimor or not) was able to avoid the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogwom.7940 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @sorudo.9054 said:@Ogwom.7940 said:@Yggranya.5201 @sorudo.9054 said:@kharmin.7683 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:@"Linken.6345" said:You think living stone statues would use armor skins really?Yeah, I am still having a hard time believing that all of Tyria's dwarven population got transformed.Why? According to the lore, they were all, regardless of faction, connected to The Great Dwarf, and it was this connection that was the basis for the transformation ritual. Basically, due to this, no dwarf was able to avoid being subject to the ritual - If they didn't like it, still the best they could hope for was to delay the effect for a while.So, all of them eventually succumbing to the ritual is not exactly surprising or doubtful. Even so, magic exists in the world. Maybe some sort of quest to find something that would revert the dwarves from stone? Just a thought.they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.I don’t think you can renounce the rite.All the dwarves, including the stone summit turned to stone.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stone_SummitCheck under the History tab and search for the 2 headings, “Legacy” and “The Icebrood Saga”.Read both and it will explain that they all turned to stone, but there does seem to be ancient spells that could potentially reverse the effects?These stone summit tried to reverse the rite but were driven mad and corrupted by Primordus as a result of using Destroyer energy/magic to channel into their rituals.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tome_of_the_RubiconThis is another link to show that it seems to be a race wide transformation.which is all written AFTER GW2 was released, the only reason why is because Anet wanted to get rid of dwarfs altogether.And your point is?This information was from GW1 wiki lol... so it was written way before GW2.@sorudo.9054 said:@Astralporing.1957 said:@sorudo.9054 said:they specifically said deldrimor dwarfs, what if there are other families that renounced the great dwarf and are living somewhere out of reach for now.a possible expansion, a legit way to add dwarfs.The ritual does not link to faith or nationality. It links to one of the core racial features. The only way to renounce that link would be to stop being a dwarf.Notice, how it affected not only Deldrimor dwarves, that were willing and enacted the ritual, but the Stone Summit dwarves as well - that were definitely not willing, and have already turned to worshipping other entities (like The Great Destroyer, and later Primordius). It didn't help them, and they were still pulled along against their will. Apart from those that let themselves be corrupted (which turned them from being dwarves into dragon minions).the stone summits are deldrimor dwarfs.......No, the Stone Summit are a completely different faction of dwarves and. They used to be Deldrimor dwarves but broke away.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dagnar_StonepateThis is King Jalis's (Leader of the Deldrimor) cousin.a quote from this GW1 wiki page,https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Stone_Summit"The Stone Summit is a xenophobic faction which has recently broken away from the Deldrimor dwarves while being led by Dagnar Stonepate. They have had some recent successes in seizing power and resources from the Deldrimor dwarves, most notably in claiming the vast mine of Sorrow's Furnace, which became their main base. They utilize Ice Golems and Siege Ice Golems which are created via the Heart of Ice in their war. They also have enslaved the Dredge among other creatures, such as the snow beasts, Dolyaks, Giants, and even Djinn."Edit: changed font in quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Ogwom.7940 said:@Ashantara.8731It is already cannon that those stone summit in the Steel Strike mission were turned to stone or partially to stone as they were still going through with the transformation.All of those stone summit that we fought were corrupted by Primordus, as he can only (as we know it) corrupt things such as stone or magma.This isolated stone summit group used Primordus’s energy/magic to reverse/stop the effects of the Rite, yet in doing so allowed them to become corrupted.This is why the stone summit were summoning destroyers to their side as well as exploding in magma when you kill them.Also, there are journal pages scattered throughout the strike mission which actually explains this.Thank you, that was really helpful information.I never took the time to read the scattered documents in peace as the circumstances of such mission instances usully stress me out too much to relax and enjoy any lore contained in them (same as raids and other group content). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Ashantara.8731 said:@Ogwom.7940 said:@Ashantara.8731It is already cannon that those stone summit in the Steel Strike mission were turned to stone or partially to stone as they were still going through with the transformation.All of those stone summit that we fought were corrupted by Primordus, as he can only (as we know it) corrupt things such as stone or magma.This isolated stone summit group used Primordus’s energy/magic to reverse/stop the effects of the Rite, yet in doing so allowed them to become corrupted.This is why the stone summit were summoning destroyers to their side as well as exploding in magma when you kill them.Also, there are journal pages scattered throughout the strike mission which actually explains this.Thank you, that was really helpful information.I never took the time to read the scattered documents in peace as the circumstances of such mission instances usully stress me out too much to relax and enjoy any lore contained in them (same as raids and other group content).Just for reference, you can stay behind after completion and search for the pages as the instance doesn't close until everyone has left. It means players don't have to stress and read/find them during the active mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake.1840 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Dwarves (not the stone variety). Is it not lore that the Dwarves turned themselves to stone to defend against an elder dragon? Perhaps with the defeat (or pacification) of either elder dragons, the commander can uncover a way (magic or otherwise) to restore the dwarves as their original selves. Bam...new playable race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @cweker.7824 said:I'm just thinking about the dwarf on the picture of the upcoming living world patch... It would be so great to be able to play them in the future. I would reroll from my norn to that kind of dwarf in a matter of sec. Dwarf Guardian, oh boy..Do you really see Arenanet adding a race without a female variant as a playable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake.1840 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @mindcircus.1506 said:Do you really see Arenanet adding a race without a female variant as a playable?Plenty of games have managed a female version (model) of dwarves. Why couldn't ANet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @Drake.1840 said:@"mindcircus.1506" said:Do you really see Arenanet adding a race without a female variant as a playable?Plenty of games have managed a female version (model) of dwarves. Why couldn't ANet?To this point female dwarves have been ommited from this specific franchise.From the Wiki:Male dwarves were never seen without beards, and while females existed, none were ever seen—or rather, seen and differentiated from the males.And while I agree they could totally retcon this, wouldn't it be like adding Horses?Would that be something we as fans would want?Sure they could just as easily say "female dwarves sound like the males and look just like the males." but would that go over well?If they were going to give us a new race they would go all in on tengu or they would give us some variant of the standard model used for human/norn/sylvari.The wouldn't give us a gender locked race or bother with breaking the lore for something as unpopular across almost all fantasy games as female dwarves.They'd give us playable quagann before they gave us female dwarves....and more people would play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogwom.7940 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @mindcircus.1506 said:@"cweker.7824" said:I'm just thinking about the dwarf on the picture of the upcoming living world patch... It would be so great to be able to play them in the future. I would reroll from my norn to that kind of dwarf in a matter of sec. Dwarf Guardian, oh boy..Do you really see Arenanet adding a race without a female variant as a playable?That depends on whether they do have a female variant or not, since we don't accurately know yet."Male dwarves were never seen without beards, and while females existed, none were ever seen—or rather, seen and differentiated from the males."https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/DwarfThis sentence was based off of what Ogden mentioned in the first game,"How do you know you haven't already met a female dwarf? Eh? Eh?"https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ogden_StonehealerFrom Ogden's supposed facetious quote, he could be implying that there are,1) female dwarves and we just haven't noticed them because they look like males2) female dwarves but we haven't seen or met them yet, similar to how we didn't see female charr in GW13) no female dwarves and he is just pulling our legs.Here are some other quotes from dwarven dialogue (though due note what NPCs say is anecdotal, we would need to see evidence of female dwarves in real time to be able to determine if they actually do exist and what they would look like if they are extant),"Does me beard look short to you? I think that nasty wife o' mine cut it while I was sleeping.""My youngest daughter was killed in a raid by the Summit a few months ago...""Now now. I'm busy. Wife says our barrel of grog is empty..."https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dwarven_Scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureShiron.7658 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 the dwarf race is bioligicly dead so i doubt we'd get them as playable. besides the races that deserve the shot at being playable are tengu and kodan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @Randulf.7614 said:Just for reference, you can stay behind after completion and search for the pages as the instance doesn't close until everyone has left.I know, I did that for the achievement last year. :) I was still stressed out a bit at the time or I would have recalled the notes' contents. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeracK.3601 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @kharmin.7683 said:I would more easily accept dwarves over tengu.why would you be against one of the core guild wars 1 races? Especially when they are a key example of tyrian fantasy(charr, asura, sylvari, etc) where they try to break away from the generic fantasy tropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @TeeracK.3601 said:@kharmin.7683 said:I would more easily accept dwarves over tengu.why would you be against one of the core guild wars 1 races? Especially when they are a key example of tyrian fantasy(charr, asura, sylvari, etc) where they try to break away from the generic fantasy tropes.Because I don't like tengu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now