HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Who cares? =\The game is too variable to limit the people in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYou have WvW for that. Find a duel spot, or buy an Armstice Bastion pass and join the free for all in the arena there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYou have WvW for that. Find a duel spot, or buy an Armstice Bastion pass and join the free for all in the arena there.Why do we need spvp then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersEasier to balance with the current system. Due to the limited resources Anet has, and how well they're currently doing with them according to other players, expanding the options in that manner probably wouldn't be best for the game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYou have WvW for that. Find a duel spot, or buy an Armstice Bastion pass and join the free for all in the arena there.Why do we need spvp then? Structure, hence the amulet system. It is a simplified system designed to get a build put together quickly and easily from the beginning. The only problem is that the balance team has a history of removing perfectly fine amulets in order to 'balance' certain builds rather than apply proper balance to the builds in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersyes, toughness vit healing power builds, wins who gets a full cap first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Khalisto.5780 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersyes, toughness vit healing power builds, wins who gets a full cap firstBuff poison then. Its just stupid... Remove to balance! Clap clap clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYeah, it would be wonderful to have free build crafting again like PvE and WvW has. Where you can have different stats on different items.PvP attribute point numbers still can be different from the rest of the game. For example, celestial stats may have different numbers in sPvP than in PvE if that is needed for the balance of the sPvP game type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @TheQuickFox.3826 said:be differentbrother degenerate u mean? Kappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:be differentbrother degenerate u mean? KappaI don't understand you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @TheQuickFox.3826 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:be differentbrother degenerate u mean? KappaI don't understand you.I use translator =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:be differentbrother degenerate u mean? KappaI don't understand you.I use translator =(I guess that is why I did not get what you meant with the start post.I thought you just wanted to remove the amulets with nothing to replace it. Which would be a bad idea.But if you actually suggest to remove the amulets and in place of it go back to a fully customizable gear system like PvE and WvW has, then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 @TheQuickFox.3826 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:be differentbrother degenerate u mean? KappaI don't understand you.I use translator =(back to a fully customizable gear system like PvE and WvW Yes. Its all about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 And again, with this system ANet can still nerf attribute combinations in PvP only to adjust balance in this game type while leaving the stats unchanged in the rest of the game. This would allow for far more build creativity and allow players to more easily counter the cookie cutter builds we see in abundance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone Jack.3462 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 99% of people whining about how everything needs to be nerfed are playing silver. The answer is literally always to not facetank before forcing them to pop CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAvenged.5217 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 What I really think we need is more variety. They can purposely nerf or not bring in ones that are gonna be op.We have ones that people almost never use like marshals and no one would use a power variant of marshals- though I’d love to have it.Just add more and keep needing and removing toxic broken ones until game is balanced with as much variety as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYou have WvW for that. Find a duel spot, or buy an Armstice Bastion pass and join the free for all in the arena there.Why do we need spvp then? Structure, hence the amulet system. It is a simplified system designed to get a build put together quickly and easily from the beginning. The only problem is that the balance team has a history of removing perfectly fine amulets in order to 'balance' certain builds rather than apply proper balance to the builds in question.Wish they just lock amulets/runes/sigils per class or per elite or something instead of shanking it for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Yes, but better remove all amulets, runes and weapons from the game mode! Then there will be nothing left to complain about....until the forum warriors find something else to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersThe amulet system was implemented because they couldn't balance the game with people building statwise as they pleased. I hate the way they are handling balance (as in something is broken? remove an amulet), but the amulet system is a good thing. Letting players stacking stats freely would result in absolute mayhem without a huge sweeping balance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Vancho.8750 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@HokenPWNZ.7628 said:@"TheQuickFox.3826" said:No amulets. No stats. Give melee characters a stick and shield and ranged characters a bunch of stones. Fixed.I mean "amulet system" is outdated. Let the ppl be free to build their charactersYou have WvW for that. Find a duel spot, or buy an Armstice Bastion pass and join the free for all in the arena there.Why do we need spvp then? Structure, hence the amulet system. It is a simplified system designed to get a build put together quickly and easily from the beginning. The only problem is that the balance team has a history of removing perfectly fine amulets in order to 'balance' certain builds rather than apply proper balance to the builds in question.Wish they just lock amulets/runes/sigils per class or per elite or something instead of shanking it for everyone. No, Vancho, that isn't a solution. The balance team needs to be more proactive with their PvP/WvW/PvE splits. Balance is a moving target I know, but the balance team needs to be more proactive. They do need to listen somewhat to the forum QQ, some of it is justified but not all of it, and they also need to have the foresight to see how OP combinations of traits and stats can happen. They really need one person working on each class across the game modes with the goal of making sure said class is viable, with a variety of playstyles, but not broken in all the game modes. They just don't seem to have that manpower though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 if you could allocate stats in small +100 chunks but have a hard cap on all stats from amulet only then it would work out fine. certain combos should be discouraged but not impossible, like minstrel or dire. instead of a standard +1k +1k +500 +500 it could be hard capped at -200 or even -300 when the system realizes what you're up to. same thing with dire, give it -400 total stats so they have to put some into power or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 i want my dire and nomad stats pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:if you could allocate stats in small +100 chunks but have a hard cap on all stats from amulet only then it would work out fine.3,000 stat cap. Nice idea. Port that over to Legendary gear in PvE/WvW with an extra 300 stats (roughly the amount from full Berserker gear) and you have a winner. You could get some very interesting combinations out of that and Anet wouldn't have to roll out new attribute combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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