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Guide to getting the Warclaw for WvW Newbies

Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited November 1, 2019 in Players Helping Players

This is intended to be a complete guide to unlocking the Warclaw, aimed at people who have never played World vs World (WvW) before.

Summary

1) You must own Path of Fire.
2) Put 1 point into the Warclaw Mastery Ability.
3) Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement:

  • Spend 250 Badges of Honor (from enemies, chests and other WvW rewards, and from achievement chests so you may have enough already)
  • Spend 50 Skirmish Claim Tickets (from Skirmish Reward Chests, earned automatically when playing WvW – not in the Edge of the Mists – and from other Warclaw collection items)
  • Complete the Warclaw reward track
  • Kill some guards for a random drop (found at all enemy objectives)
  • Capture a camp
  • Capture a tower
  • Capture a keep

4) Buy an item for 8g from the Warclaw vendor

You’ll also need another 125 ability points (from World Ranks) to unlock the Warclaw’s extra abilities, but only if you play WvW regularly as they don’t work in PvE.

Many of these steps can be combined, and I estimate it will take no more than 10 hours to complete the whole thing. The ones to focus on are capturing a camp, tower and keep because they’re not going to happen on their own, whereas everything else can be obtained while working on those three, or by following the same process.

Everything except buying items from the Warclaw vendor, capturing a camp and earning Skirmish Claim Tickets can be done in the Edge of the Mists (EOTM), which is a shared ‘borderland’ map with multiple instances and therefore no queue, so if you’re in a queue I recommend going there to make some progress while you wait.

At least some of the pieces of Warclaw body armour awarded for completing other parts of the collection give 5 Skirmish Claim Tickets each (I’m not sure about the ones from the reward track and from guards), so it’s possible to earn between 25 and 35 tickets from the collection, leaving just 15-25 to earn from skirmish chests.


Things to know before you start

The Warclaw is not needed in PvE & you cannot unlock it without actively playing WvW
Unlike the Gift of Battle there’s no work-around here, you have to play at least a bit of WvW to unlock it. But it’s a dedicated WvW mount and all its abilities are specific to WvW, so unless you want to play WvW or really like how it looks there’s no need to get it.

It doesn’t matter which world you’re on
Leaderboard position has very little impact on your individual rewards. Don’t worry about your worlds score or potential points or the difference between a match and a skirmish, certainly don’t switch worlds just to get the Warclaw.

You will die, and die often
But waypoints and repairs are free so the only problem is having to run back. Do not wait around for people to revive you, there isn’t time. (Unless they’re right next to you and there’s no enemies nearby.)

Play at peak times if you can
There will be more people to play with, more to fight against and therefore more opportunities to capture objectives, earn skirmish tickets and progress the reward track.

WvW often involves waiting, but that’s ok
You’ll wait for a group to form, wait for the group to move off, wait for siege to be built, wait for siege to destroy walls, wait while you claim points, wait for the enemy to arrive, wait for the enemy to leave, wait for people to clear their bags/go to the toilet/get on the same group chat…and sometimes (at least if you’re not on the group chat) it won’t be clear why you’re waiting.

Sometimes you’ll also spend what seems like ages heading towards an objective only to abandon it and go somewhere else because plans have changed.

But that’s ok, it’s an important part of playing tactically, which gets you better rewards in the long run, and as participation (needed for skirmish tickets and reward track progress) decays slowly over time you’re not really losing anything by waiting.


First Steps

Activate the Warclaw Mastery Ability
Open the WvW menu and click on the 3rd tab on the left side. This is the Rank and Abilities tab, they're in alphabetical order so in English the Warclaw is the last one in the list. Ability points are earned by gaining ranks in WvW and ranks are gained by earning XP. If you’ve never played WvW before you’ll have 1 point to spend, which is enough to unlock the Warclaw Companion Achievement (under Competative > World vs. World Warclaw). (Don’t forget to check this periodically to assign new points you’ll earn as you play, I recommend unlocking War Gliding as soon as you can.)

If you’ve played WvW before and already spent your points you can get them refunded by speaking to the World Ability Master in your home base, or you can get more by earning WXP.

For now don’t worry about the rest of the ability track – this upgrades the Warclaw in the same way masteries upgrade the other mounts, but it’s not needed to unlock the mount.

Activate the Warclaw Reward Track
Click on the 3rd tab in the WvW menu, find the Warclaw reward track in the list and click on it. This activates it so it will progress as you earn reward points. For now you can forget about it – the track will progress as you play WvW and every so often you’ll get a chest in the bottom right corner with some rewards. Eventually that will be the Warclaw Armor Box with the Helmet required for the collection.

Use boosters
If you have any WXP or reward track boosters use them, but for short-term ones you may want to wait until the action starts so you don’t waste it. Don’t forget to get the free one from the Guild Bartender in your guild hall if you can.

Now it’s time to start playing WvW!
It’s not really possible to put the rest of the process into order because you’ll get badges of honor from everything you do, skirmish tickets from raising your participation level by killing enemies and capturing objectives and what order you capture things in depends on what’s going on when you play, so this is general advice about playing WvW.


Starting to play

When you open the WvW menu you have 5 maps to choose from – Eternal Battlegrounds, 1 Desert Borderlands, 2 Alpine Borderlands and Obsidian Sanctum. Ignore that last one – it’s a jumping puzzle. But you can choose any of the others. I recommend picking one with little/no queue if you can just because it’s easier to get in. (I also recommend the desert borderland, for reasons I’ll explain below.)

There’s also the Edge of the Mists, which is like a Borderlands map, but with multiple instances shared between servers (servers are grouped by colour) so there’s no queue. You can’t earn Skirmish Claim Tickets there and there are no camps, but you can do everything else to get the Warclaw so it’s a good option if all the main maps have a queue.

You’ll start off in your team’s home base, which is completely safe from enemies and has a bunch of NPCs offering different services. This is a good time to check out the map and sort your build out. WvW uses the same equipment as in PvE (unlike PvP which has a unique system) and your skills and traits will copy over but it may be worth setting up a special WvW build. If you're not sure what to use you can find lots of build guides online, but I strongly recommend using a speed boost.

The WvW map
At first it’s really confusing, there’s loads of coloured lines and symbols, some of them are moving, and it will probably just look like a mess. Basically symbols are control points and the colour shows who controls them. The lines show the area controlled by that point – important because you can only glide in areas your team controls.

There are 4 main kinds of control points: Keeps, Towers, Camps and Ruins.

  • Keeps are the hardest to take over – they have several layers of defences and are the most likely to be defended, they need a big group.
  • Towers only have 1 layer of defences, but still need siege to get in.
  • Camps have no walls, just a few guards so they can be taken solo.
  • Ruins are undefended and often unclaimed because they’re not as useful and ownership decays over time.
  • There’s also Stonemist Castle in the middle of Eternal Battlegrounds, Shrines in desert borderlands and Sentries on all the maps. (None of which are required for the Warclaw, but they all contribute to your reward track and skirmish ticket progress.)

The Match Overview tab on the WvW menu will show you what each team controls on each map. It may seem like a map where your team is winning is best, but that means you have fewer objectives to take over and getting participation credit will be harder so it may actually be better to go to one where you’re losing.

Earning badges, skirmish tickets and reward track progress

Your skirmish tier, points you’ll earn at the next ‘tick’, time remaining until that tick and your reward track progress is shown in a little pop-up menu above or below the map (depending on if the map is at the top or bottom of the screen).

You’ll earn more points for higher tier participation (Tier 6 is the maximum) and you raise your participation level by…well, participating. Killing enemies, claiming things, completing events, defending objectives etc. and you’ll get a reward chest each time you complete a step in the reward track or skirmish rewards.

Periodically you’ll also get WvW rank chests popping up above the map. The rank chests contain extra badges of honor and random loot, but most importantly they mean you’ve got another rank point to spend on the Ranks and Abilities tab.


When you first enter

Look for a commander tag – if there is one go join them. Follow them, attack what they attack, build siege when they place it, claim control points when you get to them. Try to actually pay attention to what’s going on rather than blindly following because you’ll learn more that way, but the important thing is to stick with the group and do what they do.

If there isn’t a commander tag
Maybe switch maps (if there are others without a queue) to see if you can find one. But if not don’t give up. The best thing to do now is explore the map – even just roaming around aimlessly will help you learn your way around, which will come in useful later on.

But there’s also likely to be stuff you can achieve on your own – claiming camps is best but you can also claim sentry points and shrines (this is why I recommend the Desert borderlands, it has more of this stuff) and ruins which will progress your reward track and skirmish tier.

Keep a look out for commander tags – one could turn up at any time and pay attention to the map and team chat channels. Or you might find a group of players running without a commander– they’re harder to spot (and sometimes don’t want randoms, they’ll let you know if that’s the case) but they can achieve just as much as a group with a commander – it’s just harder to attract new people without the tag.

If there’s more than 1 commander tag
Ask in map chat which one to join, or see which one/s have their squad open so you can just right click and join. It’s likely one is the ‘main’ squad and one or more is a specialist one – a guild doing their own thing or a 2nd group sneaking into objectives – they’re less likely to want extra people. But it may just be that there’s enough people for multiple squads and you can join whichever.


From then on

Keeps going. Keep running with squads, claiming objectives, or exploring solo and claiming what you can until you’ve achieved your objectives. Sooner or later you will take at least 1 keep, tower and camp, and kill enough guards for the drop.

Carry supply whenever you can
But do not take it from Keeps or Towers. Camps are the best place to get it. It’s used to build siege and repair walls, so it’s useful to have and by carrying it (and being willing to spend it) you’re helping your team out.

Don’t attack walls or gates unless the commander says it’s ok
This will alert the enemy to the fact that you’re attacking (which using siege weapons doesn’t) which gives them time to come and stop you. Sometimes that’s ok because they’re busy elsewhere or there’s too few of them or whatever, sometimes it could ruin the whole attack.

Try to have fun
You may go in expecting to hate WvW, or at least thinking it’s not for you. But give it a go and you may find yourself enjoying it. I doubt I’m ever going to be a dedicated WvW player but I’ve had some great times playing and some memorable moments. (Also my only ascended drop.)

And if you really do hate it? Well, you don’t need to go back again (at least not until you want another unique reward.)

Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

"In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

Comments

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Great summary.

    Also let me add, many WvW guilds are running open raids to help anyone new to WvW to get their mounts. Some guilds may not be doing so, and may continue to run closed raids, so please respect that, but there are many WvW'ers happy to help anyone looking to explore the world of WvW and get the mount.

  • Awesome, thanks for posting @Danikat.8537

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  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2019

    (Bug appears to have been fixed.)

    Caution: be sure to put in one point of WvW abilities to the Warclaw before you start.
    (This unlocks the collection.)


    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/70467/warclaw-collection-blocking-issue
    @Rubi Bayer.8493 wrote
    There is currently a bug affecting the warclaw that prevents players from progressing on the collection.

    We are working on a fix for this.

    In the meantime, we would suggest not completing the warclaw reward track until after you unlock the collection in WvW.

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • There's one additional requirement:
    After you complete the Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement, you have to purchase one more item from the Warclaw vendor, which costs 8 gold.

    As @Turkeyspit.3965 unfortunately discovered (and posted about), that vendor is only available on the Borderlands and Eternal Battlegrounds; they can't be found in EotM, Obsidian Sanctum, nor LA (or if they are there, they are well hidden).

    tl;dr remain in BL/EB to visit the Warclaw vendor after you complete the collection

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Im not seeing the extra wxp in eotm. Is that correct?

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  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    There's one additional requirement:
    After you complete the Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement, you have to purchase one more item from the Warclaw vendor, which costs 8 gold.

    Gotta say, I read everything that was released about this mount launch, and what was recorded from the live stream, and nothing was mentioned about purchasing anything from a vendor for 8 gold. That this minor, but extremely important detail wasn't included is very disappointing to me.

  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2019

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    There's one additional requirement:
    After you complete the Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement, you have to purchase one more item from the Warclaw vendor, which costs 8 gold.

    Gotta say, I read everything that was released about this mount launch, and what was recorded from the live stream, and nothing was mentioned about purchasing anything from a vendor for 8 gold. That this minor, but extremely important detail wasn't included is very disappointing to me.

    It was odd, yeah. I tried to include everything I found about it in my summary post... and I didn't see it either.

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    There's one additional requirement:
    After you complete the Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement, you have to purchase one more item from the Warclaw vendor, which costs 8 gold.

    Gotta say, I read everything that was released about this mount launch, and what was recorded from the live stream, and nothing was mentioned about purchasing anything from a vendor for 8 gold. That this minor, but extremely important detail wasn't included is very disappointing to me.

    It was odd, yeah. I tried to include everything I found about it in my summary post... and I didn't see it either.

    I've never seen that mentioned either. I've added a quick note for now and will build on it if necessary later. I can imagine that could be a nasty shock for some people when they think they've completed everything.

    Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

    "In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

  • Aerlen.5326Aerlen.5326 Member ✭✭✭

    Thank you so much! You're a hero for posting this.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Aerlen.5326 said:
    Thank you so much! You're a hero for posting this.

    I'm glad you appreciate it. I remember how confusing I found WvW when I started, and whenever I've gone back to it after a break. People on my server were nice enough to put up with me constantly asking questions while I was trying to figure out what to do, but hopefully this will give some people a head start.

    Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

    "In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    There's one additional requirement:
    After you complete the Complete the Warclaw Companion meta-achievement, you have to purchase one more item from the Warclaw vendor, which costs 8 gold.

    Gotta say, I read everything that was released about this mount launch, and what was recorded from the live stream, and nothing was mentioned about purchasing anything from a vendor for 8 gold. That this minor, but extremely important detail wasn't included is very disappointing to me.

    It was odd, yeah. I tried to include everything I found about it in my summary post... and I didn't see it either.

    I've never seen that mentioned either. I've added a quick note for now and will build on it if necessary later. I can imagine that could be a nasty shock for some people when they think they've completed everything.

    Just as a 100% personal confirmation, after waiting in queue for 15mins (!) I went straight to the vendor, and was able to purchase the mount for 8g.

    Not at all an unusual means of acquiring a mount, just very unusual that it wasn't mentioned in the media blitz leading up the patch.

  • Biff.5312Biff.5312 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is great - thanks. Although my conclusion is that I am in no hurry to get this thing. Estimated 10 hours for what amounts to a cosmetic in pve? Nah. I'm sure not having one will make WvW a bit less convenient, but I'm also sure I'll live without it. Nevertheless I'll do all this at my own casual pace. Thanks for the guide.

  • It might be worth mentioning that when you put that first skill point on Warclaw, it does not actually unlock/give you the emblem until you enter a WvW map.

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2019

    @Biff.5312 said:
    This is great - thanks. Although my conclusion is that I am in no hurry to get this thing. Estimated 10 hours for what amounts to a cosmetic in pve? Nah. I'm sure not having one will make WvW a bit less convenient, but I'm also sure I'll live without it. Nevertheless I'll do all this at my own casual pace. Thanks for the guide.

    Just keep an eye on the Daily Quests for WvW. Many of them are very easy, can be done solo, and usually involve you killing NPCs same as in PvE.

    • Mist Guard Killer
    • Camp Capturer
    • Land Claimer
    • Master of Monuments
    • Caravan Disruptor (hit that yak!)

    All are very easy to complete, and will reward you with 1-2 Potions of WvW Experience. 80 of those potions will take your reward track from 0 to full, and if you spend some time in WvW doing these dailys, you will get reward track XP which reduces the amount of potions you will ultimately need.

    Edit: added Caravan Disruptor - basically just kill 1 of those ugly yaks runnin' around.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:
    It might be worth mentioning that when you put that first skill point on Warclaw, it does not actually unlock/give you the emblem until you enter a WvW map.

    Oh yeah, that's good to know, I'll add it to the guide.

    For some reason my first reaction was to join the queue for one of the main maps, then go to EOTM, then start looking at the menu, so I didn't notice.

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    "In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Great guide. One (minor) addition: If your client is set to another language than english, the warclaw track might not be the last one on the list (since the abilities are sorted alphabetically). In the german client for example, the ability track is called "Kriegsbestie" and as such found somewhere roughly in the middle of the list (this threw me off for a moment when I helped my daughter getting started with the whole process).

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Rasimir.6239 said:
    Great guide. One (minor) addition: If your client is set to another language than english, the warclaw track might not be the last one on the list (since the abilities are sorted alphabetically). In the german client for example, the ability track is called "Kriegsbestie" and as such found somewhere roughly in the middle of the list (this threw me off for a moment when I helped my daughter getting started with the whole process).

    I didn't even think about that, I completely forgot that it would have a different name in other languages. I've edited the post to take out all (I think) mentions of where it appears in alphabetical lists.

    Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

    "In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

  • A little more more advice: tag everything. If you are alone, kill 1 guard at every tower or keep you pass. Same with camps if you can't manage to solo them. The reason for this is that in WvW the game remembers your participation. If you are still on the same map when the objective is captured by your team, you still get credit for the capture. This does NOT decay, it lasts as long as you are logged on. It does end if the other enemy captures team the objective though.

    If you are in an objective that your team controls, and it is being attacked, try to spend some supply on repairing the wall/gate. This qualifies you for Objective Defender credit even if you don't manage to kill an enemy attacker. Of course, you only get defender if the objective holds out the whole timer countdown.

    Pay attention to your contribution decay timer. If it reaches 0, you start to lose contribution and get less reward. You can reset it by killing a guard or supply dolyak or capturing a ruin, although these only give a very few minutes. Capturing a shrine or sentry sets the countdown to 5 minutes and capturing anything else or killing an enemy player gives 10 minutes (max). Note that if you leave WvW maps, your contribution does not decay. So please DO NOT go afk to get more rewards as your timer tics down. You can just pick up where you left off later.

  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @CaelestiaEmpyrea.2617 said:
    If you are in an objective that your team controls, and it is being attacked, try to spend some supply on repairing the wall/gate. This qualifies you for Objective Defender credit even if you don't manage to kill an enemy attacker. Of course, you only get defender if the objective holds out the whole timer countdown.

    While I agree with the rest of your tips, I feel that this one isn't as straight forward as it sounds. You do qualify for object defender, but if you just dump your supply into e.g. a wall that is being bombarded by an enemy catapult (thus effectively wasting the supply as it only delays the enemy by one or two catapult shots) that could be detrimental to your own team. If for example your supplies are all that's needed to build a ballista that kills the catapult, then you might just make the difference between defending or losing the tower or keep in the first place.

    Spending supplies for repairing stuff can be very situational, and if you are in a party or squad and unsure if it's a good idea or a waste of good supplies, don't hesitate to ask the people you are playing with.

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @CaelestiaEmpyrea.2617 said:
    If you are in an objective that your team controls, and it is being attacked, try to spend some supply on repairing the wall/gate. This qualifies you for Objective Defender credit even if you don't manage to kill an enemy attacker. Of course, you only get defender if the objective holds out the whole timer countdown.

    While I agree with the rest of your tips, I feel that this one isn't as straight forward as it sounds. You do qualify for object defender, but if you just dump your supply into e.g. a wall that is being bombarded by an enemy catapult (thus effectively wasting the supply as it only delays the enemy by one or two catapult shots) that could be detrimental to your own team. If for example your supplies are all that's needed to build a ballista that kills the catapult, then you might just make the difference between defending or losing the tower or keep in the first place.

    Spending supplies for repairing stuff can be very situational, and if you are in a party or squad and unsure if it's a good idea or a waste of good supplies, don't hesitate to ask the people you are playing with.

    I partially agree, in that if Objective Defender happens to be a daily, the squad, the map, and your server will survive if you use 10 supply to 'one-tap' a wall that is being trebbed/catad.

    Outside of that, yes, if the wall is under siege, the only reason to repair is if you know reinforcements are coming and you need to buy time. Otherwise it's just a waste of supply.

  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    Thank you for this, it's very well-written and tailored to someone like me who wants to try WvW but doesn't know the first thing about it. I will be dipping my toe in this weekend. :)

  • notebene.3190notebene.3190 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is great, thank you!

    I got my first Skirmish Chest reward, but not sure what the best thing to take from it is, so I'm just letting it sit there. Should I take the 6 heroics? Is that the most scarce thing? I seem to have plenty of Badges of Honor, from both the old days and I still do 1-2 WvW dailies for my dailies, as I find them pretty easy to do.

    In the event I don't get a chance, thank you all for the company and help when I needed it from time to time.

  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2019

    @notebene.3190 said:
    Should I take the 6 heroics?

    I always take that, as it's the only thing I can't obtain easily from other sources.

    I got my first Skirmish Chest reward

    Congratulations!

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I always take the Testimony of Heroics too, for the same reason.

    I can't remember the last time I had less than 2,000 badges of honour and I don't play WvW that much and use them for an easily daily achievement (and to unlock cultural skins) whenever Big Spender comes up and everything else I can get from other sources. Especially now I've got the Permanent Portable Provisioner which sells siege, tricks and traps and food.

    Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

    "In this town, we call home, everyone hail to the pumpkin song! In this town, don't we love it now? Everyone's waiting for the next surprise!"

  • Loosmaster.8263Loosmaster.8263 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @notebene.3190 said:
    This is great, thank you!

    I got my first Skirmish Chest reward, but not sure what the best thing to take from it is, so I'm just letting it sit there. Should I take the 6 heroics? Is that the most scarce thing? I seem to have plenty of Badges of Honor, from both the old days and I still do 1-2 WvW dailies for my dailies, as I find them pretty easy to do.

    If you need some coin, you can take the Dye/Superior Siege and sell them. Leave the Dye unidentified to sell it. All the other items are "Account Bound".
    Note: The siege case says "Account Bound" because you cannot sell the case but you can sell the contents once opened.

    Playing the PvE scene because WvW is just "BAD"...

  • @Kaliwenda.3428 said:
    I'm a little over halfway through the Warclaw reward track, and I made it to rank 10 tonight before I had to sign off. I never dreamed I'd have so much fun doing WvW. :)

    Awesome :) (and well done)
    Glad to hear it.

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  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @notebene.3190 said:
    This is great, thank you!

    I got my first Skirmish Chest reward, but not sure what the best thing to take from it is, so I'm just letting it sit there. Should I take the 6 heroics? Is that the most scarce thing? I seem to have plenty of Badges of Honor, from both the old days and I still do 1-2 WvW dailies for my dailies, as I find them pretty easy to do.

    There really is no one "best thing" in there, it totally depends on what's useful to you.

    Personally I rarely use the heroics vendor, so I have plenty of testimonies in my wallet (above 3k at last count). I just have too much fun getting all that's available for them in pve instead ;) . One of my daughters is an almost exclusive wvw player, so she uses testimonies of heroics to unlock elite specializations on her army of asura alts, and rarely has enough of them. My other daughter plays wvw exclusively to get her hands on transmutation charges and dyes from the scrimish chests (she still treats the game a lot like barbie dress-up ;) ). A friend grabs a lot of siege decorations from those chests and has built a jumping puzzle out of those in his personal guild hall. Again others I know that rarely play wvw get unidentified dyes and superior siege to sell them on the tp.

    The only thing in the skrimish chests that's (afaik) universally regarded as "not worth it" is the canned food. You can get the food you want for cheaper from the portable provisioner.

  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    I got my warclaw tonight! :)
    And I got started on my first Gift of Battle immediately afterwards!

  • Doghouse.1562Doghouse.1562 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2019

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:
    It might be worth mentioning that when you put that first skill point on Warclaw, it does not actually unlock/give you the emblem until you enter a WvW map.

    Indeed. And very confusing that is. I put the point in on one account in PvE late one evening, then couldn't work out the next day why I didn't have the emblem...

    As my own basic tip, I'd add that, whilst you can do most of the stuff in EotM, IMO it's really not worth it. The Skirmish claim tickets mean that you're going to need to spend plenty of time in the Battlegrounds anyway, so you might as well cut screw your courage and go get stuck in. And if you join a squad and take part, everything else will basically simply happen somewhere along the way anyway. Also - having done it twice - I can attest that, if you complete the Warclaw reward track in the Battlegrounds and cash in the various other bits you get from the reward track, you will have enough claim tickets to buy the final item needed to complete the collection.

    (Plus I find Battlegrounds are way more fun than grinding in EotM anyway. Just accept that you have no idea what's going on, and try not to be more of a nuisance to the people who do than you need to - and I'm speaking as one of the potential nuisances. If your server uses a voice server such as Teamspeak, load it up, mute your mike, join the relevant channel, ask nicely in squad chat to be verified - then listen, stick to the commander's tag like glue, and do as you're told.)

    It took me about 6 hours each time, running in a squad with TS open and an active Birthday booster (plus others when i remembered). During that time I had a couple of commanders who had absolutely no idea how to cope with a squad full of inexperienced people who weren't on TS, tried to carry on as normal and were repeatedly wiping and getting really frustrated at things not working - but I also had several really good ones as well, who adapted, made allowances and in summary made the experience a pleasure.

  • Track progress takes the longest everything else is easy to get...

  • "I estimate it will take no more than 10 hours to complete the whole thing."

    I wish. I've played over 30 hours now—and have most of the achievements—but it feels as though I'll never participate in capturing a keep. Commanders and their groups go after towers aplenty, but they poke at a keep, find too much resistance, and run away.

    It doesn't help, either, that every group consists almost entirely of mounted players who outdistance us poor foot soldiers in a twinkling.

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Easiest way is to move to a server with heavy SEA coverage. SEA groups tend to run maps unchallenged as SEA guilds are few and far between.. especially now that WvW has lost so many players. Join a server with a strong SEA presence and getting warclaw will be easy.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelkka.9086 said:
    "I estimate it will take no more than 10 hours to complete the whole thing."

    I wish. I've played over 30 hours now—and have most of the achievements—but it feels as though I'll never participate in capturing a keep. Commanders and their groups go after towers aplenty, but they poke at a keep, find too much resistance, and run away.

    It doesn't help, either, that every group consists almost entirely of mounted players who outdistance us poor foot soldiers in a twinkling.

    Just find a border with T0 keeps during off hours - most likely during daytime on weekends. If its T0, it means it keep flipping. If you just stay on EB or something, you might never see a T3 borderkeep flip unless very lucky. If the other enemy take it and its not on their side of the border, just write in chat that you will try to take it on cd. Maybe someone hear it. If its keep daily you can write it in team and I assure you, people will come like flies to poop. Just get the ball rolling by capping a nearby camp and getting a cata up.

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  • SEA [No idea what this means]
    T0 [?]
    EB [Eternal Battleground?]
    T3 [?]
    cd [?]
    cata [catapult?]
    keep daily [?]
    write it in team [?]

    Now I feel a lot more ignorant than I already know I am. :(

  • Then there's the mechanics of capturing a keep. I assume you set up rams to take down the gates or batter down a wall with something, but how exactly does one do that? I assume you need supplies, but do you need siege recipes? If so, how does one apply/activate them? I've googled this to death, but all the so-called tutorials assume knowledge I do not have.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 1, 2019

    The keeps in EoTM count as well. Get two other people, guildies maybe, and you can take a keep there easily with only NPC resistance.

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelkka.9086 said:
    SEA [No idea what this means]

    South East Asia time zones

    T0 [?]

    Tier 0. Basically no significant wall armor, minimal resistance, and minimal upgrades. Works well during Weekly Reset for WvW.

    EB [Eternal Battleground?]

    Yes.

    T3 [?]

    Tier 3. Fully upgraded Keep. Much more resistance and more people will defend it.

    cd [?]

    Cool Down

    cata [catapult?]

    Yes

    keep daily [?]

    WvW has ‘daily achievements’ and often, Keep Capturer is one of them

    write it in team [?]

    Typing in Team Chat. It goes to all 5 of the WvW maps along with Armistice Bastion

    Now I feel a lot more ignorant than I already know I am. :(

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelkka.9086 said:
    SEA [No idea what this means]
    T0 [?]
    EB [Eternal Battleground?]
    T3 [?]
    cd [?]
    cata [catapult?]
    keep daily [?]
    write it in team [?]

    Now I feel a lot more ignorant than I already know I am. :(

    SEA = South East Asia, in this case including Australasia. There are people who play GW2 in that part of the world, typically on NA servers and because of their time zones they're usually online when everyone in North America (the majority of players on the NA server) are asleep. If a server has a large SEA guild they have an advantage in WvW because they can run around the map capturing stuff when very few enemy players will be online, so there's almost no competion.

    T0 = Tier 0. Keeps (and towers) in WvW start off at Tier 0 when they're first captured and then are gradually upgraded if one side holds them for long enough and enough supply dolyaks get through. So tier 0 keeps are easier to take over and also an indication that it hasn't been held for long, meaning players on the map you're on are capturing keeps. That means it's a good map to stay on if you want to capture a keep.

    EB is Eternal Battlegrounds.

    T3 = Tier 3. This is the opposite of a Tier 0 keep - it's fully upgraded and therefore highly unlikely to be worth the trouble of capturing (which will reset it to Tier 0) unless your side really has nothing else to do and there's either not enough people online to defend it or they're going to be busy fighting the 3rd side for a while.

    CD = Cool Down. All objectives are invulnerable (or specifically the camp supivisor or tower/keep lord is invulnerable) for a short time after they're captured, making it impossible to capture them again immediately. This is because there's a good chance that when one side takes over an objective their enemy will be inside defending it and without the Cool Down period they could just kill the lord again and the objective would be constantly flipping sides (with everyone getting rewards each time it happened).

    Cata = catapult. These are long-range siege weapons used to break down walls or doors to get into a keep. If you're in a squad you generally don't need to worry about carrying and placing siege weapons because the commander will do it. Just make sure you collect Supply from camps and use it to build siege when someone places it. If you're playing on your own or trying to start an attack on an objective placing siege and using it to wear down the defences is a good start, and catapults are a good choice because they can be placed furthest away where you're less likely to be attacked by the enemy.

    Keep Daily = the achievement Daily WvW Keep Capturer. Like all daily achievements this makes it more likely other players will want to do that task on that day, so they can complete the daily and the meta-achievement for completing 3 daily achievements. What that means for you is if WvW Keep Capturer is one of today's daily achievements then it's a good day to try to find a squad who are attacking a keep.

    Write it in team = Use the Team Chat channel to tell other players you want to attack a keep (or already are). This ties into the above - if it's a daily achievement there will be lots of players on the map who want to do it, so if you say "I have set up a catapult to attack [keep name], come and join me" people will come. Alternatively you can use Team chat to ask if anyone else is attacking a keep, or is going to soon, so you can make sure you're there when they do it.

    @Kelkka.9086 said:
    Then there's the mechanics of capturing a keep. I assume you set up rams to take down the gates or batter down a wall with something, but how exactly does one do that? I assume you need supplies, but do you need siege recipes? If so, how does one apply/activate them? I've googled this to death, but all the so-called tutorials assume knowledge I do not have.

    If you can find a squad to follow (and especially if Keep Capturer is one of the daily achievements) you won't need to worry about that. Most commanders actually prefer it if no one else uses siege equipment because then they can make sure it's only set up when it's actually worth using and the squad doesn't waste all their supply on useless siege.

    If you want to do it yourself you can buy siege blueprints from a Siege Master NPC in any WvW base or from the Trading Post. For attacking a keep you'll need at least 2 Flame Rams or a Catapult and a Flame Ram because there are two 'layers' of defenses so you'll need to break through either 2 gates or a wall and a gate (sometimes with careful positioning you can hit the inner walls with the same catapult, but not always). Siege blueprints are cheap to buy, but you will also need Supply to build them, which comes from camps in WvW. It's free to pick up but you'll need more than one person can carry to build anything (this is by design - you're not really supposed to attack keeps and towers solo) so you'll either need to ask some people to help or you'll need to make several trips, which increases the risk that you'll be caught and your unfinished siege equipment destroyed (especially once you're inside and attacking the second gate).

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    The keeps in EoTM count as well. Get two other people, guildies maybe, and you can take a keep there easily with only NPC resistance.

    I think this is the best approach. Either find some friends/guild members to help you or wait until Keep Capturer is one of the daily achievements then go to the Edge of the Mists and attack one of the keeps there. Because EOTM maps don't count towards WvW progress for the world and they're created on demand you're much less likely to find upgraded or defended keeps there - so they'll be easier to take over.

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  • THANK YOU! That clarified a lot for me—and answered some questions I didn't know to ask. :)

  • Kelkka.9086Kelkka.9086 Member ✭✭
    edited November 3, 2019

    If you can indulge another question:

    How do you build siege engines? I pulled up the catapult blueprint and was then holding a box. I typed 1 to place the catapult; I positioned it and clicked. The "image" of the placed catapult disappeared. I tried again, this time typing 1 again instead of clicking, in case that might work. It disappeared.

    Okay—maybe it doesn't like that location. I tried another spot, positioned it, clicked.... There was a brief flash of a gold bar at the bottom of the screen, I was no longer holding the box... And there was nothing there, no build site, no catapult, no debris or anything. Mousing around gave me nothing to apply supplies to. (And the blueprint was gone from my inventory.)

    Stymied again.

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭

    Now all I need is one for Skyscale..

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelkka.9086 said:
    If you can indulge another question:

    How do you build siege engines? I pulled up the catapult blueprint and was then holding a box. I typed 1 to place the catapult; I positioned it and clicked. The "image" of the placed catapult disappeared. I tried again, this time typing 1 again instead of clicking, in case that might work. It disappeared.

    There are locations that you will have an icon on your bar that says ‘siege deployment blocked’

    But there are other spots where the game will not allow it as well, though those spots are usually in secluded/hard to get to places and likely would afford too much advantage,

    Okay—maybe it doesn't like that location. I tried another spot, positioned it, clicked.... There was a brief flash of a gold bar at the bottom of the screen, I was no longer holding the box... And there was nothing there, no build site, no catapult, no debris or anything. Mousing around gave me nothing to apply supplies to. (And the blueprint was gone from my inventory.)

    Occasionally, the blueprint may have gone to another point either above or below where you targeted, though that is unusual.

    What could help is if you ‘screenshot’ where you are having difficulty, as that may allow others to give more concrete info.

    Stymied again.

    It can be frustrating. Don’t let it deter you though.. 🙂

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  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    @mrauls.6519 said:
    Now all I need is one for Skyscale..

    There was a great one on the GW2 reddit that I used. It was called 'complete guide to getting the skyscale" or something like that. There are also a lot of youtube guides to show you where to go for the items you need to find.

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