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  • style.6173style.6173 Member ✭✭

    Well, there are two ways to look at this.
    1. ANET has completely lost touch and doesn't realize opening BG is a terrible idea.
    or
    2. ANET knows alliances are coming soon and are using this as a way to get some quick gem sales from the bandwagon jumpers.

    It is definitely one of those options.

  • anonymous.7812anonymous.7812 Member ✭✭✭
    1. BG is low pop (hours played) compared to SF and FA, and winning a matchup has no bearing on a servers fullness.

    The tinfoil hats in here are always hilarious when BG opens.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    No way to justify this unless no link for them anymore like really anet is dumb af. It's almost like should we just transfer for ez mode and ruin the game or stick it out with your server.

    Well, since mounts were added because Anet knows what they are doing and we should ‘just Adapt’ i Guess the same could be said for this change also..

    Get over the mounts too dude except in mount threads.

    I’ve been over it. 🙂

    Maybe you need to stop blaming BG for everything wrong with the game?

    People have obsessed over BG for 4 years...

    Mounts have only been out for 4 months.

    🙂

    I don't blame BG for anything. Very skilled group plays the mode correctly by keeping their 6 keeps/smc and almost never overextending to make them vulnerable. The problem was the links that should be locked from transfers cause that mass transfer stacks them/kills their prior link and who ever got stuck w them. But to open them is just encouraging I doubt hulky and his VR guys cuz they tried the BG link for a week but it didn't take but maybe some other 20 man guild to bandwagon. I do like mounts tho

    Hunk came one week to get fights on a reset. From there VR left because, (I would imagine) they enjoyed wrecking the bully rather than running with the bully.

    Yeah I remember. It's tempting even for me cuz being on BG is almost a perm 10 pips per 5 min vs getting stuck in the who the eff knows what server I'll be linked with farming 8 pips adding 3-4 hours per week to finish diamond but It's not as fun as you said being the bully for some as this link has been constant double team which is fun fighting that off then camp taking in BG watching the other 2 teams avoid us.

    However, think about what you just said..,

    If BG outnumbers it’s opponents so heavily, I would think the outnumbered pips would be such an advantage. If they aren’t able to get outnumbered pips, why are they unable to field the same numbers nor be able to ‘win’

    It’s normal for BG players to get outnumbered pips on 1-2 maps in prime time every night other than reset.

    The data doesn’t add up yet no one looks at it objectively.

    But yeah.., the meme IS fun.

    I have a bunch of easy Legendary Armor from having nonstop outmanned while playing BG. Use to take breaks when we went to T2 because at the time was only playing WvW for the pips and rarely got outmanned in T2.

    Playing BG is great for pips. But for the game mode they are a disaster.

    I’ve got two and a half sets from those same outnumbered pips in prime time.... on BG.

    What’s your point?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kovu.7560 said:
    Someone over at Anet HQ must've flipped the wrong switch. o.o

    ~ Kovu

    The most rational thing said on here.

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Come play against them during ocx, much fun to be had.

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Welcome new friends :heart:

    BG

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    No way to justify this unless no link for them anymore like really anet is dumb af. It's almost like should we just transfer for ez mode and ruin the game or stick it out with your server.

    Well, since mounts were added because Anet knows what they are doing and we should ‘just Adapt’ i Guess the same could be said for this change also..

    Get over the mounts too dude except in mount threads.

    I’ve been over it. 🙂

    Maybe you need to stop blaming BG for everything wrong with the game?

    People have obsessed over BG for 4 years...

    Mounts have only been out for 4 months.

    🙂

    I don't blame BG for anything. Very skilled group plays the mode correctly by keeping their 6 keeps/smc and almost never overextending to make them vulnerable. The problem was the links that should be locked from transfers cause that mass transfer stacks them/kills their prior link and who ever got stuck w them. But to open them is just encouraging I doubt hulky and his VR guys cuz they tried the BG link for a week but it didn't take but maybe some other 20 man guild to bandwagon. I do like mounts tho

    Hunk came one week to get fights on a reset. From there VR left because, (I would imagine) they enjoyed wrecking the bully rather than running with the bully.

    Yeah I remember. It's tempting even for me cuz being on BG is almost a perm 10 pips per 5 min vs getting stuck in the who the eff knows what server I'll be linked with farming 8 pips adding 3-4 hours per week to finish diamond but It's not as fun as you said being the bully for some as this link has been constant double team which is fun fighting that off then camp taking in BG watching the other 2 teams avoid us.

    However, think about what you just said..,

    If BG outnumbers it’s opponents so heavily, I would think the outnumbered pips would be such an advantage. If they aren’t able to get outnumbered pips, why are they unable to field the same numbers nor be able to ‘win’

    It’s normal for BG players to get outnumbered pips on 1-2 maps in prime time every night other than reset.

    The data doesn’t add up yet no one looks at it objectively.

    But yeah.., the meme IS fun.

    I have a bunch of easy Legendary Armor from having nonstop outmanned while playing BG. Use to take breaks when we went to T2 because at the time was only playing WvW for the pips and rarely got outmanned in T2.

    Playing BG is great for pips. But for the game mode they are a disaster.

    I’ve got two and a half sets from those same outnumbered pips in prime time.... on BG.

    What’s your point?

    Boy I sure do love getting on and seeing people from 3 different maps pinging Outnumbered in team chat during NA prime :cry:

    BG

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @anonymous.7812 said:
    3. BG is low pop (hours played) compared to SF and FA, and winning a matchup has no bearing on a servers fullness.

    The tinfoil hats in here are always hilarious when BG opens.

    It pretty funny to read :lol: . Our links help a great deal.

    BG

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Vova.2640 said:
    As if T1 wasnt unplayable already...

    I guess it doesnt matter anymore. NA wvw is basically dead.

    It really is... Took an EB keep and the entire red side the other night when I last logged in with only 6 people.
    Only 1 defender the entire time was seen.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    For a server thats always been full and have been known to have epic queues for the last 6 years before the introduction of Warclaw, thats actually quite scary to hear.

    I get what the other poster meant too... its better to fight the more populated server because it provides more chances at challenging fights and presents more fights overall.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    i dont blame anyone going to bg. but i think those who whine and moan are envious. =p

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • style.6173style.6173 Member ✭✭

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i dont blame anyone going to bg. but i think those who whine and moan are envious. =p

    Envious? No. I'm tired of seeing people tank to avoid T1. We need to more people playing WvW, not less.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @style.6173 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i dont blame anyone going to bg. but i think those who whine and moan are envious. =p

    Envious? No. I'm tired of seeing people tank to avoid T1. We need to more people playing WvW, not less.

    unfortunately people will game the system to fit their needs. :/ it takes a strong will to push up a tier. and numbers

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ultramex.1506 said:
    Never thought i'd see someone so proudly telling people to bandwagon on open forum, time is changing.

    OP is not from BG.

    But yeah..

    And as a side note, people have been telling people to bandwagon fairly constantly.

    Oh, they note ‘well we need to transfer to play with our friends’ or some variant.

    To claim this is new is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

    Oh i knew people tells other to bandwagon but mostly on guild chat/team chat when that server perform poorly or inactive but on WvW forum? where players from every server can see??! That is just low. I might have joined the forum only for a few month but rarely( if none) do i see post saying "Lets all hop to this server" and it's Blackgate no less, so far i only see this and other post ( which is Henge of Denravi), well if you count WvW guild recruiting then it's another story.

  • Why move to bg? Content is dead.

  • I haven't seen "Monkey" online for days.
    It'll be funny if he transferred there.

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭

    Monkey + Mez U Up would push the /t chat to its limits

    Top ten reasons I procrastinate:
    1.

  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Because links only last for 2 months with the same servers, rarely it's the same servers on the next relink because of how much populations shift. Host servers have the most population hence why they're host, they offer stable places if you're looking to stay somewhere long term, some are usually in the same tiers which some people have a preference for, like BG is normally in t1, FA floats in T1/2, FC is now T1 stable, etc.

    In this case BG has been getting links in which players have been transferring to, to stay with them, now instead of constantly transferring to their new links they can just join BG, even if it's 1800 gems they still wouldn't need to move for the next 6 months to make up for it, and they get to be on the last NA server that has good coverage, scouts, defense, and numbers which makes it easy for them to take and control stuff.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic || Class Offense Defense Movement Balance is So Terribad ||

  • hunkamania.7561hunkamania.7561 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gop.8713 said:
    I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

    Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

    Ferguson's Crossing Server Leader

    WVW LEADER

    VR

  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hunkamania.7561 said:

    @Gop.8713 said:
    I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

    Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

    So is ownership the goal? I was under the impression that ppl who transfer tend to transfer pretty regularly. I thought moving around was the point . . .

  • SLOTH.5231SLOTH.5231 Member ✭✭

    Maybe change is a good thing.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ultramex.1506 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ultramex.1506 said:
    Never thought i'd see someone so proudly telling people to bandwagon on open forum, time is changing.

    OP is not from BG.

    But yeah..

    And as a side note, people have been telling people to bandwagon fairly constantly.

    Oh, they note ‘well we need to transfer to play with our friends’ or some variant.

    To claim this is new is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

    Oh i knew people tells other to bandwagon but mostly on guild chat/team chat when that server perform poorly or inactive but on WvW forum? where players from every server can see??! That is just low. I might have joined the forum only for a few month but rarely( if none) do i see post saying "Lets all hop to this server" and it's Blackgate no less, so far i only see this and other post ( which is Henge of Denravi), well if you count WvW guild recruiting then it's another story.

    Did you miss the part where I said the OP isn’t from BG? And has no interest in being on BG?

    I can only imagine he is laughing quite hard at the consternation that this thread is creating. 🙂

    If you read back some, BG represents a lot of the opposite of what the OP looks for in a server... and in WvW.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    why the salt though? a strong server attracts

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Swamurabi.7890Swamurabi.7890 Member ✭✭✭

    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:
    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

    To further incentivize tanking?

  • Swamurabi.7890Swamurabi.7890 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:
    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

    To further incentivize tanking?

    That hasn't stopped it being used, ahem, by BG it the past. Anyone remember Hybergate?

    If you average it out over several matches that would reduce it's abuse.

  • @Gop.8713 said:

    @hunkamania.7561 said:

    @Gop.8713 said:
    I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

    Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

    So is ownership the goal? I was under the impression that ppl who transfer tend to transfer pretty regularly. I thought moving around was the point . . .

    No, people don't want to move around, that costs real money.

    With that said, some people did move around, such as myself to stay in T3 area, as fights and fight guilds were more common, and GvGs were a thing. But that was only a few people/guilds and that is dead now. Everyone else wanted to be on the top T1 server to be the one winning all the time, for that you don't need to field the biggest numbers, you just need coverage, as most servers outside of prime time are just plain dead, probably 20 people over all 4 maps and none of them organized. So when they log back in the next day, they see all their structures are now T3 by an enemy server because of night coverage.

    Most people are fair weathers, they don't want hard fights, they want to be on the winning server, if that changes every few months, people will move around, if it stays the same what is there for them to move for? Move from a winning server with active players in almost all time zones, to a server that is losing and dead outside of prime time? Not many people are going to be going for that, and BG for some time has been that winning server with numbers and coverage. However the server has been closed for some time meaning people could not transfer, the only option was to fight them, or move to the server linked to them every time it changed. Which funny enough are the real bandwagon people, not BG, as actual BG plays would have been there for some time.

    "When you power creep the game and make it so that spam gameplay is nearly as effective as deep knowledge and nuance, the quality of players will decrease." -Exedore

  • SLOTH.5231SLOTH.5231 Member ✭✭

    If BG is open then that means when that closes other servers will open up as well. I’ve been on FA since release no plans on moving even though I WvW 99% of the time solo with pugs. If people want to go to BG I see no issue with it it’s there money.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    No way to justify this unless no link for them anymore like really anet is dumb af. It's almost like should we just transfer for ez mode and ruin the game or stick it out with your server.

    Well, since mounts were added because Anet knows what they are doing and we should ‘just Adapt’ i Guess the same could be said for this change also..

    Get over the mounts too dude except in mount threads.

    I’ve been over it. 🙂

    Maybe you need to stop blaming BG for everything wrong with the game?

    People have obsessed over BG for 4 years...

    Mounts have only been out for 4 months.

    🙂

    I don't blame BG for anything. Very skilled group plays the mode correctly by keeping their 6 keeps/smc and almost never overextending to make them vulnerable. The problem was the links that should be locked from transfers cause that mass transfer stacks them/kills their prior link and who ever got stuck w them. But to open them is just encouraging I doubt hulky and his VR guys cuz they tried the BG link for a week but it didn't take but maybe some other 20 man guild to bandwagon. I do like mounts tho

    Hunk came one week to get fights on a reset. From there VR left because, (I would imagine) they enjoyed wrecking the bully rather than running with the bully.

    Yeah I remember. It's tempting even for me cuz being on BG is almost a perm 10 pips per 5 min vs getting stuck in the who the eff knows what server I'll be linked with farming 8 pips adding 3-4 hours per week to finish diamond but It's not as fun as you said being the bully for some as this link has been constant double team which is fun fighting that off then camp taking in BG watching the other 2 teams avoid us.

    However, think about what you just said..,

    If BG outnumbers it’s opponents so heavily, I would think the outnumbered pips would be such an advantage. If they aren’t able to get outnumbered pips, why are they unable to field the same numbers nor be able to ‘win’

    It’s normal for BG players to get outnumbered pips on 1-2 maps in prime time every night other than reset.

    The data doesn’t add up yet no one looks at it objectively.

    But yeah.., the meme IS fun.

    I have a bunch of easy Legendary Armor from having nonstop outmanned while playing BG. Use to take breaks when we went to T2 because at the time was only playing WvW for the pips and rarely got outmanned in T2.

    Playing BG is great for pips. But for the game mode they are a disaster.

    I’ve got two and a half sets from those same outnumbered pips in prime time.... on BG.

    What’s your point?

    /rollseyes

    Lol. Sure buddy, everyone believes you.

    And you know what the point is. Do you really believe that BG has been good for the game mode? Seriously?

    All the games not called GW2 that we are playing thank you (BG players) for your help in killing WvW.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but BG still has a squad or group of defenders/roomers on every map almost 24/7 and that’s more than every other server has.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I blame BG for everything. :)
    Backdoor transfers.
    Door blobbing 24/7.
    Promoting super stacking.
    Match fixing T1 glicko ratings.
    Guilds taking too long to destack for the health of the mode.
    Leading cause of destruction and burnout of commanders, guilds, and servers.
    Ruining plans for server rewards and tournaments, since they were expected to win everything anyways.
    Supporting mount implementation so their zerglings could train faster door to door, and defend easier without worry of being ganked on the way. (lol)

    I sleep better at night thinking it all goes back to one source!

    +1

    It is the BG players who killed WvW. ANET's incompetence helped. But it took players like those on BG who actively gamed the system in the worst ways to kill the game mode.

  • knite.1542knite.1542 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    Where did you get that from? I'm not making a claim either way. I don't make assumptions like this to push my ideas ... and neither should anyone else.

  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

  • Hitman.5829Hitman.5829 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I stop playing WvW for about 3 weeks and now they open BG. LOL I was the one that was keeping BG alive. My whole game experience was in WvW and I dedicated alot of my time to WvW.

    Charr Warrior Master Race!
    Black Gate Beast Roamer chicken chaser!

  • You know the game mode is dead when an open Blackgate doesn't get filled in a half hour.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    No way to justify this unless no link for them anymore like really anet is dumb af. It's almost like should we just transfer for ez mode and ruin the game or stick it out with your server.

    Well, since mounts were added because Anet knows what they are doing and we should ‘just Adapt’ i Guess the same could be said for this change also..

    Get over the mounts too dude except in mount threads.

    I’ve been over it. 🙂

    Maybe you need to stop blaming BG for everything wrong with the game?

    People have obsessed over BG for 4 years...

    Mounts have only been out for 4 months.

    🙂

    I don't blame BG for anything. Very skilled group plays the mode correctly by keeping their 6 keeps/smc and almost never overextending to make them vulnerable. The problem was the links that should be locked from transfers cause that mass transfer stacks them/kills their prior link and who ever got stuck w them. But to open them is just encouraging I doubt hulky and his VR guys cuz they tried the BG link for a week but it didn't take but maybe some other 20 man guild to bandwagon. I do like mounts tho

    Hunk came one week to get fights on a reset. From there VR left because, (I would imagine) they enjoyed wrecking the bully rather than running with the bully.

    Yeah I remember. It's tempting even for me cuz being on BG is almost a perm 10 pips per 5 min vs getting stuck in the who the eff knows what server I'll be linked with farming 8 pips adding 3-4 hours per week to finish diamond but It's not as fun as you said being the bully for some as this link has been constant double team which is fun fighting that off then camp taking in BG watching the other 2 teams avoid us.

    However, think about what you just said..,

    If BG outnumbers it’s opponents so heavily, I would think the outnumbered pips would be such an advantage. If they aren’t able to get outnumbered pips, why are they unable to field the same numbers nor be able to ‘win’

    It’s normal for BG players to get outnumbered pips on 1-2 maps in prime time every night other than reset.

    The data doesn’t add up yet no one looks at it objectively.

    But yeah.., the meme IS fun.

    I have a bunch of easy Legendary Armor from having nonstop outmanned while playing BG. Use to take breaks when we went to T2 because at the time was only playing WvW for the pips and rarely got outmanned in T2.

    Playing BG is great for pips. But for the game mode they are a disaster.

    I’ve got two and a half sets from those same outnumbered pips in prime time.... on BG.

    What’s your point?

    /rollseyes

    Lol. Sure buddy, everyone believes you.

    And you know what the point is. Do you really believe that BG has been good for the game mode? Seriously?

    All the games not called GW2 that we are playing thank you (BG players) for your help in killing WvW.

    Really don’t care if you do believe me.

    Your illogical viewpoint is without merit. Look at the server status.

    And yes..., BG killed the mode. Got it.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:
    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

    To further incentivize tanking?

    That hasn't stopped it being used, ahem, by BG it the past. Anyone remember Hybergate?

    If you average it out over several matches that would reduce it's abuse.

    Read your whole statement again...,

    Which server has the most organization of all the servers left right now?

    How hard would it be to abuse that...?

    I mean if you want to give a server like BG the ability to ‘tank’ and kill their PPT for a few weeks just to open itself, go ahead... see where it gets you...

    Can people really be this short sighted?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    And yes..., BG killed the mode. Got it.

    They never killed WvW, just T1. Which impacted WvW negatively because people started tanking in T2 just to avoid blackgate - a long time ago, and this still happens all the time. Nobody wants to fight a server that is active 24/7 and only fights under siege/tower buffs, and is basically unstoppable due to them receiving strong links for god knows what reason.

    So nobody wants to be in T1 because you literally CAN NOT win.
    Not many people want to be in T2 because IF YOU WIN, you will be punished by blackgate and then have to tank in T2 the next week once you realize what's good for you
    Not many want to be in t3/t4 because half their players couldn't tell their kitten from their head

    So I can see why some might say BG had something to do with the current state of WvW and why everyone is leaving ...

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    And yes..., BG killed the mode. Got it.

    They never killed WvW, just T1. Which impacted WvW negatively because people started tanking in T2 just to avoid blackgate - a long time ago, and this still happens all the time. Nobody wants to fight a server that is active 24/7 and only fights under siege/tower buffs, and is basically unstoppable due to them receiving strong links for god knows what reason.

    So nobody wants to be in T1 because you literally CAN NOT win.
    Not many people want to be in T2 because IF YOU WIN, you will be punished by blackgate and then have to tank in T2 the next week once you realize what's good for you
    Not many want to be in t3/t4 because half their players couldn't tell their kitten from their head

    So I can see why some might say BG had something to do with the current state of WvW and why everyone is leaving ...

    This sounds more like those that couldn't beat BG couldn't tell their kitten from their head regardless of tier. If you were a pleb in t4 and transferred to t1, did you gain some magical aura of wvw game play that makes you better?

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    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • SkyShroud.2865SkyShroud.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think the more important concern is why alliance still not delivered? Does anet need 3 years to make it! I think I will be gone within a year, got a new game I really want to play.

    Founder & Leader of Equinox Solstice [TIME], a Singapore-Based International PvX Guild
    Henge of Denravi Server
    www.gw2time.com

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hunkamania.7561 said:
    Big wvw update today! No better place to test out these MASSIVE changes than

    You..
    you.. you... POT stirrer!!!

    🙂

  • Swamurabi.7890Swamurabi.7890 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:
    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

    To further incentivize tanking?

    That hasn't stopped it being used, ahem, by BG it the past. Anyone remember Hybergate?

    If you average it out over several matches that would reduce it's abuse.

    Read your whole statement again...,

    Which server has the most organization of all the servers left right now?

    How hard would it be to abuse that...?

    I mean if you want to give a server like BG the ability to ‘tank’ and kill their PPT for a few weeks just to open itself, go ahead... see where it gets you...

    Can people really be this short sighted?

    Are you really going to defend BG til you're the last player in WvW?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Swamurabi.7890 said:
    Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.
    Test it out before Alliances.

    To further incentivize tanking?

    That hasn't stopped it being used, ahem, by BG it the past. Anyone remember Hybergate?

    If you average it out over several matches that would reduce it's abuse.

    Read your whole statement again...,

    Which server has the most organization of all the servers left right now?

    How hard would it be to abuse that...?

    I mean if you want to give a server like BG the ability to ‘tank’ and kill their PPT for a few weeks just to open itself, go ahead... see where it gets you...

    Can people really be this short sighted?

    Are you really going to defend BG til you're the last player in WvW?

    No.

    I also wouldn’t recommend placing them in even more control of their status.

    But again, being short sighted is what has and is hurting the mode.

    Institute what you suggested, and watch..., if you can’t see the inevitable conclusion, then you are part of the problem.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    can't imagine how boring it would be to be on bg.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

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