Spending Money Is Supporting The Game - Page 2 — Guild Wars 2 Forums

Spending Money Is Supporting The Game

2

Comments

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2019

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    You got a source saying they dont have devs working on other projects?

    Yes gw2 is their main focus rn but that doesnt mean they arent working on kther stuff, it just mean that the bulk of the company is on gw2.

    Exactly what other projects would they be working on if NCSoft cancelled or suspended all of them...and don't say a mobile version because NCSoft has a separate division that makes/works on all of their mobile games. The numbers just don't add up to them having people working on anything other than just GW2.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    Except the ones who were actually working on GW2 and got laid off.

  • The saddest thing is that there is no game that can replace Guild Wars 2.Anyway, you will still play Guild Wars 2

  • Pifil.5193Pifil.5193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    You got a source saying they dont have devs working on other projects?

    Yes gw2 is their main focus rn but that doesnt mean they arent working on kther stuff, it just mean that the bulk of the company is on gw2.

    Exactly what other projects would they be working on if NCSoft cancelled or suspended all of them...and don't say a mobile version because NCSoft as a separate division that makes/works on all of their mobile games. The numbers just don't add up to them having people working on anything other than just GW2.

    Where did they say they cancelled or suspended all of them? Where did they say that everyone is working on GW2 now? I'd love to see your source on this.

  • @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    You got a source saying they dont have devs working on other projects?

    Yes gw2 is their main focus rn but that doesnt mean they arent working on kther stuff, it just mean that the bulk of the company is on gw2.

    Exactly what other projects would they be working on if NCSoft cancelled or suspended all of them...and don't say a mobile version because NCSoft as a separate division that makes/works on all of their mobile games. The numbers just don't add up to them having people working on anything other than just GW2.

    Where did they say they cancelled or suspended all of them? Where did they say that everyone is working on GW2 now? I'd love to see your source on this.

    Exactly. right now these people are on thier hate train. instead of supporting the game they want the game to crash and burn.

  • c space cowboy.2764c space cowboy.2764 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2019

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-02-21-arenanet-reportedly-bracing-for-mass-layoffs

    Ncsoft canceled all of anets non gw2 projects and put everyone on gw2, supposedly.

  • @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    You got a source saying they dont have devs working on other projects?

    Yes gw2 is their main focus rn but that doesnt mean they arent working on kther stuff, it just mean that the bulk of the company is on gw2.

    Exactly what other projects would they be working on if NCSoft cancelled or suspended all of them...and don't say a mobile version because NCSoft as a separate division that makes/works on all of their mobile games. The numbers just don't add up to them having people working on anything other than just GW2.

    Where did they say they cancelled or suspended all of them? Where did they say that everyone is working on GW2 now? I'd love to see your source on this.

    Exactly. right now these people are on thier hate train. instead of supporting the game they want the game to crash and burn.

    No they think the current state of the game isnt worth supporting, i dont think its worth supporting and im perfectly fine paying for expansions.

    Im not gonna buy gemstore skins so they can in turn go and make more of them, sell me content and ill buy it.

    if they dont want feel like supporting the game anymore then that is fine but all this angry and hate comments are not neccessary. i am saying if i like something in gemstore i get it at the same time im supporting the game

  • Luthan.5236Luthan.5236 Member ✭✭✭

    Depends on the reason. If they say "why should I pay for this" - then your explanation (in opening post) makes sense. Though there can be "too much". If you want to just enjoy a bit of the game every now and then ... you probably don't need all the gems. Not too uncommon/wrong to feel weird or hesitant about paying for outfits/cosmetics ... or other stuff you won't need too much.

    I personally want to try maxizining the stuff I get out of the gameplay - with minimizing the amount of real money I spend. Trying to avoid exchanging gems for gold and vice versa. (So I buy gems for real money unless only 20 or so gems are missing - then I'd exchange a few gold.) Cosmetics are not important. Stuff like revive orbs ... or keys (random stuff from chests + keys are ernable by playing in a limited way) are not important.

    On the other hand gathering tools gave such a big convenience (not having to check up on them ... or trying to save coints by using mithril for most stuff and orichalcum for the best and manually switching) - so I got them at sale. Even though it was not planned. Other stuff is Living Story, Bank/Char/Storage/Bag slot expansons. They are either needed (char slots - to get a char for every profession the core slots were not enough; story to be able to play it when you didn't unlock it for free) or for convenience as well.

    Not buying too much though - only storage expanders and bank slots as needed. So sales seem enough - to wait for them and grab 1 of each every now and then.


    I'm a returning player. Played from release until end of 2013. Then back in June 2019. Still have a lot to catch up. And I try to play a lot. Still not a reason to buy everything just to pump tons of money into the game. I think having to buy the living story 2/3 and most of 4 - while others got it for free (whithout ever complaining - totally fine!) - is a bit more support than very limited paying from the beginning would have given. (Though then again I now can save on expansions. Player that only played totally without gems from release gotten living story for free and bought expansions still might have paid more.)

    I mean such sales are to also get new people/attention - and more people buying. Only they know the numbers. They are calculating with different types of players and how much they buy. How much on non discounted price how much waiting for sale. I don't have to feel bad - even though I play tons and pay less than most others.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:

    How on earth or those 2 things even remotely related?

    I was referring to the point that people keep making by blaming Anet for addicted players not being able to control themselves. Addiction is a strong thing, I get it; however, one should not blame the source of the addiction but rather the individual who is unwilling or unable to control their impulses.

    Yeah, 2k and ea releasing full on casinos and lootbox based economies in their games is completely fine and acceptable, its the pesky ppl that suffer from addiction that shouldnt buy those things.

    Exactly.

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • I would gladly pay for expansions that offer me rewards and challenges.
    Achievements, skin hunting, etc, is where the sense of accomplishments stem from, and not going on the gemstore to throw money at a skin.
    If you like spending gems, that's you, no one is gonna say no to that, however their are some of us who enjoy working towards a reward. Tell me why all the good skins are locked behind a paywall? Be it black lion chests or not? I'm sure they can muster up in-game rewards, which in itself would encourage players to go out and play, instead of running the same metas for the same lootbags. The skins that are in-game most of the time now a days are lackluster. Only a few come to mind that are worth getting, and even then they're easy to get and have no tie ins with replay ability, which this game needs.
    Another example, mount skins. I'm not talking about the ugly flashy skins, I'm referring to the mundane and elegant ones which should have been rewarded to players. Why? The mounts come from the xpac, which itself costs $30. It's not like they came free and justify the paywall which is HIGH for skins.

    Basically, yes the game to a sense is free to play, and the gemstore isn't that much of an issue. It's understandable and this is where most of the income is generated. However it does not justify ANET focusing 90% of their time on it, and not rewarding players that want to actually play. An argument could be "Convert your gold" Sure you can, but it still diminished a sense of accomplishment and it's "Brag rights". We all know rewards are the most lackluster thing in GW2 and to any new player, I always see them type in /map "Whats the point of this meta, what is my reward". This is an issue, which I have no idea when will be addressed.

  • Skins and outfits aren't new content.

  • @kharmin.7683 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:

    How on earth or those 2 things even remotely related?

    I was referring to the point that people keep making by blaming Anet for addicted players not being able to control themselves. Addiction is a strong thing, I get it; however, one should not blame the source of the addiction but rather the individual who is unwilling or unable to control their impulses.

    Yeah, 2k and ea releasing full on casinos and lootbox based economies in their games is completely fine and acceptable, its the pesky ppl that suffer from addiction that shouldnt buy those things.

    Exactly.

    "Judges Heavily"

  • @Cylokin.2560 said:
    Skins and outfits aren't new content.

    no one said it is. everyone wants content updates, class balance for the game and etc. new outfits and skins are a plus. imagine an update or expansion without new skin and new outfits? i cant im sorry. the game is called Fashion Wars 2 for a reason no memeing

  • @Glider.5792 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Cylokin.2560 said:
    Skins and outfits aren't new content.

    no one said it is. everyone wants content updates, class balance for the game and etc. new outfits and skins are a plus. imagine an update or expansion without new skin and new outfits? i cant im sorry. the game is called Fashion Wars 2 for a reason no memeing

    Its called Guild Wars 2 actualy, and i would gladly with all my heart accept an expansion without skins, but that has tons of actual content (new maps, hard world bosses, new raids, dungeons, fractals, elite specs, new pvp game mode, pvp/wvw maps, new wvw siege/mechanics/structures etc.. you name it). We have more than enough skins ingame, repetable content though ?

    i agree with you about the expansion. but you are wrong, the content we have right now isnt repeat content, it is repeat content if you play the game 24 hours a day. there is alot to do ingame atm. i also forgot we need new hairstyles

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I also forgot we need new hairstyles.

    I'd rather have them port existing hair style onto other races.
    With Norns and Humans that's an easy thing to do and Asura mostly can use them unchanged, too.
    Charr would be a bit problematic in that regard, but only Sylvari would be a major hurdle due to their leafy design.

  • @knomslayer.9457 said:
    No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game.

    There certainly is, any more than you can afford or think it's worth is too much, for me, any more than I've already spent would be too much, until Anet decides to sell anything worth buying (and as skins aren't that for me, that might be a while).

    It may well be that spending money on the junk* Anet's selling supports the game, you fail to prove so but I have no strong reason to disbelieve it.
    But that's just not the relation I, as a customer, wish to have with any company.

    • Opinions on the products in question may vary
  • Nash.2681Nash.2681 Member ✭✭✭

    Fun fact: no matter wether the money spent on the gem store ends up directly at Arena.Net or not, supports the aspects of the game one likes or not, only fullfills selfish purposes or not- apperantly Arena.Net doesn't really want our money at all anyway.
    There are dozens of threads of people struck by some weird TP bug making it impossible to buy gems popping up for over a year , yet Arena.Net refuses to see any fault on their side or their contracting party Digital River Inc. Instead they're forcing costumers that are willing to spend money going through the fuzz of submitting a payment ticket.
    While I can see the logic behind this when thinking with a IT Service Desk POV, this behavioru is devastating when putting on a salesman POV. And thinking like a salesman with customers wishes in mind is was keeping companies alive after all...
    Though I'm tempted to start a survey on how many of those who actually gave in to this weird behaviour and submitted a ticket got actually asked for detailled payment informations to solve their issue, I'm pretty sure this would violate some forum rules, so I refrain from doing so.
    Yet I'm pretty sure, Arena.Net is actually losing a kittenload of money by how they handle this issue for over a year...

    XMG U716
    i7-6700 (Desktop version)
    16GB RAM
    Geforce 980m

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Simzani.4318 said:
    That's just half true. Your money will also be used to pay something like most devs working on non-gw2 projects, paying ghost teams like spvp team, fractal team, ui team, wvw team, raid team, engine team, server team, balance team, community team, and also paying the marketing team who will rent a theater to announce nothing and seeks partnership for unrelated products.

    There are no teams working on non-GW2 projects, that's exactly what the layoffs where about and what was reiterated after said layoffs...everyone working on something else had been brought back onto GW2.

    You got a source saying they don't have devs working on other projects?

    Yes gw2 is their main focus rn but that doesn't mean they aren't working on kther stuff, it just mean that the bulk of the company is on gw2.

    Exactly what other projects would they be working on if NCSoft cancelled or suspended all of them...and don't say a mobile version because NCSoft as a separate division that makes/works on all of their mobile games. The numbers just don't add up to them having people working on anything other than just GW2.

    Where did they say they cancelled or suspended all of them? Where did they say that everyone is working on GW2 now? I'd love to see your source on this.

    See the article attached in the quote below...you could also search and read every other article that was posted near the time of the layoffs and they all said the same thing...NCSoft cancelled all of ArenaNets other projects.

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:
    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-02-21-arenanet-reportedly-bracing-for-mass-layoffs

    Ncsoft canceled all of anets non gw2 projects and put everyone on gw2, supposedly.

    @Cylokin.2560 said:
    Skins and outfits aren't new content.

    That's technically incorrect, anything that is added to a computer game is literally content, by definition of the word. Now whether or not that is content we like is a matter of opinion, but to say it's not content is false.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Ncsoft cancelled all NON guild wars products...

    Read what I posted. It feels exactly the same as it did in gw1 before gw2 was announced.

    Small content while the crew works on new guild wars game.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:
    As a long term gw1 player, I can see the writing on the wall. The same thing is happening that happened after Eotn in gw1. Silence. Long term silence.

    The lw stories feel like they are trying to bide time while they work on their next game.

    The same thing happened in gw1, then they randomly announced gw2.

    Gw2 is being shifted into maintenance mode, and you can feel it in several dying game modes.

    I primarily play one of those dying game modes. Have spent thousands of dollars on this franchise.

    Well, my playing gw2 is going into maintenance mode. I play 2-3 times a week now with the one guild I'm in that isn't dead yet....

    it's horrifyingly amazing how many people are in this boat now from recent Anet decisions... its almost as if they are intentionally doing it.

    I cant shake this vibe that they're trying to get rid of any players who don't enjoy generic dragon story lines.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion.
    06210311 251521 121512

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    You play pve?

    The last time we had an update on alliances was 10 months ago. Announced 18 months ago?

    What defines long term silence to you?

    That makes no sense ... There have been updates to WvW long after that. You might not like them, but they exist.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • @Obtena.7952 said:

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    You play pve?

    The last time we had an update on alliances was 10 months ago. Announced 18 months ago?

    What defines long term silence to you?

    That makes no sense ... There have been updates to WvW long after that. You might not like them, but they exist.

    No downed state, bloodlust , core swap , bonus events. There been alot of content, but yeah its normal people always have something to complain about. Its the new trend

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:
    As a long term gw1 player, I can see the writing on the wall. The same thing is happening that happened after Eotn in gw1. Silence. Long term silence.

    The lw stories feel like they are trying to bide time while they work on their next game.

    The same thing happened in gw1, then they randomly announced gw2.

    Gw2 is being shifted into maintenance mode, and you can feel it in several dying game modes.

    I primarily play one of those dying game modes. Have spent thousands of dollars on this franchise.

    Well, my playing gw2 is going into maintenance mode. I play 2-3 times a week now with the one guild I'm in that isn't dead yet....

    There was no random announcement of gw2 from gw1. It was all explained well in advance.

  • @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    You play pve?

    The last time we had an update on alliances was 10 months ago. Announced 18 months ago?

    What defines long term silence to you?

    That makes no sense ... There have been updates to WvW long after that. You might not like them, but they exist.

    No downed state, bloodlust , core swap , bonus events. There been alot of content, but yeah its normal people always have something to complain about. Its the new trend

    Ok, so you're saying if anet decided to stop doing lw or any kind of update for pve and they only did these limited events like world boss rush and meta rush or w/e that would suffice and keep ppl happy and engaged, for many months?

    Yes. 100%. There is alot for content in pve. Jumping puzzle, achievement farm, exploring maps, world bosses, leveling alts, gold farming and so many more activities to do. Meta rush, world boss rush yearly festival is a plus

  • @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    How is that money used to update the game? They barely do anything since HoT, HoT was sold for €60 and yet we only got half of what was promised, PoF looks empty content-wise. Barely anything we ask for gets in the game. They took 7+ years to implement templates... what for? when majority of the people who asked for it don't play anymore... it's a bit too late.

    the money used to give content, living world, weekly game balance, new maps new elite specs , mounts. I disagree with the people who ''dont play anymore" , they either took a month of two break or playing invisible so they can continue playing while you believing they quit the game

    As for what you listed, SKINS ARE NOT content, you don't play a skin, however you'll use it to play the same old content you've been playing for 7 years ... and those skins probably took a day to make and selling it for €20, which..for that €20 you can buy some other game where you can spend hundreds of hours in, in some even thousands of hours...

    I disagree. Skins are content too. Skins motivate you to play the game and have fun. 99% people make legendary weapons so they can have the skin because not everyone can have that legendary skin. store skins... same thing. people will go out of there way to get skins so they can be different from other people

    The fact that you couldn't even list any real content other than "make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins" means you know there's nothing... saying "etc" or "many more" just means you can't think of anything else to say.

    What can i say i like skins..

  • @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    You play pve?

    The last time we had an update on alliances was 10 months ago. Announced 18 months ago?

    What defines long term silence to you?

    That makes no sense ... There have been updates to WvW long after that. You might not like them, but they exist.

    No downed state, bloodlust , core swap , bonus events. There been alot of content, but yeah its normal people always have something to complain about. Its the new trend

    Ok, so you're saying if anet decided to stop doing lw or any kind of update for pve and they only did these limited events like world boss rush and meta rush or w/e that would suffice and keep ppl happy and engaged, for many months?

    Yes. 100%. There is alot for content in pve. Jumping puzzle, achievement farm, exploring maps, world bosses, leveling alts, gold farming and so many more activities to do. Meta rush, world boss rush yearly festival is a plus

    Ok so basicly what gw1 does in maintenance mode, got it.

    i never played gw1 so idk..

  • @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    How is that money used to update the game? They barely do anything since HoT, HoT was sold for €60 and yet we only got half of what was promised, PoF looks empty content-wise. Barely anything we ask for gets in the game. They took 7+ years to implement templates... what for? when majority of the people who asked for it don't play anymore... it's a bit too late.

    the money used to give content, living world, weekly game balance, new maps new elite specs , mounts. I disagree with the people who ''dont play anymore" , they either took a month of two break or playing invisible so they can continue playing while you believing they quit the game

    As for what you listed, SKINS ARE NOT content, you don't play a skin, however you'll use it to play the same old content you've been playing for 7 years ... and those skins probably took a day to make and selling it for €20, which..for that €20 you can buy some other game where you can spend hundreds of hours in, in some even thousands of hours...

    I disagree. Skins are content too. Skins motivate you to play the game and have fun. 99% people make legendary weapons so they can have the skin because not everyone can have that legendary skin. store skins... same thing. people will go out of there way to get skins so they can be different from other people

    The fact that you couldn't even list any real content other than "make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins" means you know there's nothing... saying "etc" or "many more" just means you can't think of anything else to say.

    What can i say i like skins..

    Hah... new elite specs... people are fuming at Anet for NOT giving them specs. You're so out of touch. And also... what is WEEKLY game balance...we're lucky if we get proper balance patch 2-3 times a year.
    Still skins are not content, you just said they "motivate" you to play content. Skins are skins...you don't play a skin.

    STOP TELLING ME I'M NOT FORCED TO DO SOMETHING - I AM AN AP HUNTER SO YES, I HAVE TO DO IT
    ....AND GIVE HAIRSTYLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    How is that money used to update the game? They barely do anything since HoT, HoT was sold for €60 and yet we only got half of what was promised, PoF looks empty content-wise. Barely anything we ask for gets in the game. They took 7+ years to implement templates... what for? when majority of the people who asked for it don't play anymore... it's a bit too late.

    the money used to give content, living world, weekly game balance, new maps new elite specs , mounts. I disagree with the people who ''dont play anymore" , they either took a month of two break or playing invisible so they can continue playing while you believing they quit the game

    As for what you listed, SKINS ARE NOT content, you don't play a skin, however you'll use it to play the same old content you've been playing for 7 years ... and those skins probably took a day to make and selling it for €20, which..for that €20 you can buy some other game where you can spend hundreds of hours in, in some even thousands of hours...

    I disagree. Skins are content too. Skins motivate you to play the game and have fun. 99% people make legendary weapons so they can have the skin because not everyone can have that legendary skin. store skins... same thing. people will go out of there way to get skins so they can be different from other people

    The fact that you couldn't even list any real content other than "make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins" means you know there's nothing... saying "etc" or "many more" just means you can't think of anything else to say.

    What can i say i like skins..

    Hah... new elite specs... people are fuming at Anet for NOT giving them specs. You're so out of touch. And also... what is WEEKLY game balance...we're lucky if we get proper balance patch 2-3 times a year.
    Still skins are not content, you just said they "motivate" you to play content. Skins are skins...you don't play a skin.

    Well we can disagree..
    Skins are content too wether you like it or not. Maybe its not content for you but its content for other people. Same as those pve players who only play lw and never played wvw, so for them they dont acknowledge wvw as content.

  • @Ashen.2907 said:

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:
    As a long term gw1 player, I can see the writing on the wall. The same thing is happening that happened after Eotn in gw1. Silence. Long term silence.

    The lw stories feel like they are trying to bide time while they work on their next game.

    The same thing happened in gw1, then they randomly announced gw2.

    Gw2 is being shifted into maintenance mode, and you can feel it in several dying game modes.

    I primarily play one of those dying game modes. Have spent thousands of dollars on this franchise.

    Well, my playing gw2 is going into maintenance mode. I play 2-3 times a week now with the one guild I'm in that isn't dead yet....

    There was no random announcement of gw2 from gw1. It was all explained well in advance.

    Yeah, GW2 was announced in 2007 - even before GW:EN was released. In fact GW:EN was supposed to be the bridge between GW and GW2. Then they added a few more stories with GW Beyond (much like LW if you will, though not as much as we get now) since GW2 wasn't don't yet. Only ever then GW went into maintenance mode without any substantial updates.

  • Vyrulisse.1246Vyrulisse.1246 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:
    As a long term gw1 player, I can see the writing on the wall. The same thing is happening that happened after Eotn in gw1. Silence. Long term silence.

    The lw stories feel like they are trying to bide time while they work on their next game.

    The same thing happened in gw1, then they randomly announced gw2.

    Gw2 is being shifted into maintenance mode, and you can feel it in several dying game modes.

    I primarily play one of those dying game modes. Have spent thousands of dollars on this franchise.

    Well, my playing gw2 is going into maintenance mode. I play 2-3 times a week now with the one guild I'm in that isn't dead yet....

    Yep. I was there when GW1 was killed in its prime and the feeling around 2 right now is exactly the same.

    And they never even finished Guild Wars Beyond or promised class reworks like the Paragon's. Expect a lot of loose ends in Guild Wars 2 when they do the same thing to it.

  • Mortifera.6138Mortifera.6138 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    A fraction of it will go to ANet, a fraction to charity and the rest will be given to the corporate higher ups. Welcome to capitalism.

  • Deimos.4263Deimos.4263 Member ✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game. Your money will be used to update the game, make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins and so many more new content for the game. So dont feel bad whenever you feel like spending real money.

    I spend a lot of money on this game, but I never do it to "support" the game. Anet isn't some startup in need of a Patreon page; it's a major corporation selling a good/service to meet its bottom line. So I buy stuff when I want it, at the price offered. Which is probably too often, and I don't feel it is particularly good value as of late, but that's on me. I knew the price going in.

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'll support the game by buying gems and using them on random things when they add free quality of life features. I'll buy expansions when they come out and likely the deluxe edition because they're always worth it.

  • Calistin.6210Calistin.6210 Member ✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    How is that money used to update the game? They barely do anything since HoT, HoT was sold for €60 and yet we only got half of what was promised, PoF looks empty content-wise. Barely anything we ask for gets in the game. They took 7+ years to implement templates... what for? when majority of the people who asked for it don't play anymore... it's a bit too late.

    the money used to give content, living world, weekly game balance, new maps new elite specs , mounts. I disagree with the people who ''dont play anymore" , they either took a month of two break or playing invisible so they can continue playing while you believing they quit the game

    As for what you listed, SKINS ARE NOT content, you don't play a skin, however you'll use it to play the same old content you've been playing for 7 years ... and those skins probably took a day to make and selling it for €20, which..for that €20 you can buy some other game where you can spend hundreds of hours in, in some even thousands of hours...

    I disagree. Skins are content too. Skins motivate you to play the game and have fun. 99% people make legendary weapons so they can have the skin because not everyone can have that legendary skin. store skins... same thing. people will go out of there way to get skins so they can be different from other people

    The fact that you couldn't even list any real content other than "make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins" means you know there's nothing... saying "etc" or "many more" just means you can't think of anything else to say.

    What can i say i like skins..

    Skins you can acquire in game could be considered content I guess but cosmetics acquired from a cash shop are not content...it's why they coined the term "cosmetics"....

  • I'm never going to understand the people that complain about these optional purchases they're presented with. Don't want it? Don't buy it. Don't like it? Don't buy it. If you went off the way so many people act when ranting and complaining you'd assume they're being forced against their will to fork over money to Anet.

    This game requires other people to work long hours to put it together so you can enjoy the service they are providing you. So much of this game doesn't require money, but some parts do, and that's fair. It's their product. If you enjoy it and want it: buy it. If you don't? Don't buy it.

  • @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game. Your money will be used to update the game, make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins and so many more new content for the game. So dont feel bad whenever you feel like spending real money.

    I spend a lot of money but I'm still disappointed, b/c idc about pve 1 day content or useless gamestore gizmos, i would like to see frequent balance Updates, more longterm content for competitive gamemodes... but nope, no, nothing. So no more money for BNet ☠ or maybe less, lul🤪

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    @Tyler.4937 said:
    I'm never going to understand the people that complain about these optional purchases they're presented with. Don't want it? Don't buy it. Don't like it?
    Don't buy it. If you went off the way so many people act when ranting and complaining you'd assume they're being forced against their will to fork over money to Anet.

    The problem is, that in addition to people not liking them, in the view of these people, Arenanet wasted resources that could have better been used in other areas, for example ARMOURS that could be earned by playing the game.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Long term silence doesn't look like what we get with Anet here. Sensationalism ... fun, but not true.

    You play pve?

    The last time we had an update on alliances was 10 months ago. Announced 18 months ago?

    What defines long term silence to you?

    That makes no sense ... There have been updates to WvW long after that. You might not like them, but they exist.

    No downed state, bloodlust , core swap , bonus events. There been alot of content, but yeah its normal people always have something to complain about. Its the new trend

    Ok, so you're saying if anet decided to stop doing lw or any kind of update for pve and they only did these limited events like world boss rush and meta rush or w/e that would suffice and keep ppl happy and engaged, for many months?

    Um, no. The conversation that was being had was in relation to the comments someone made that Anet has long term silence in WvW communication of almost 18 months ... which was ridiculous considered ALL of the aforementioned events were indeed communicated and well after the last 18 month period. Whether those events made players happy and engaged wasn't part of ANY of that conversation and is highly debatable either way anyways ... so of little value to discuss.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • Gehenna.3625Gehenna.3625 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game. Your money will be used to update the game, make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins and so many more new content for the game. So dont feel bad whenever you feel like spending real money.

    I wish that were true. Of course it is true to some extent but most of it will go to profits and share holder dividends and a lot less than people might think actually goes into the game.
    When you consider that they were doing projects on the side before NcSoft cut them, those were funded also by your purchases. All in all, you can't say that money spent is a support directly of the game. That's only ever partially true at best.

    I also don't want to spend too much because they charge way too much for their stuff and I don't want them to think they can just do that and get away with it. So I do limit my spending considerably. As a customer, you shouldn't be a thief of your own wallet because you trick yourself in believing that you're saving the game.

    Spend all you like but do think a bit about spending tons of money on virtual items that you don't even own. And don't assume that all you spend goes directly back into the game. A good amount of it is just profit for NcSoft and the share holders.

    "In my experience, if you can't say what you mean, you can never mean what you say. The details are everything." ~ Minister Durano

©2010–2018 ArenaNet, LLC. All rights reserved. Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Heart of Thorns, Guild Wars 2: Path of Fire, ArenaNet, NCSOFT, the Interlocking NC Logo, and all associated logos and designs are trademarks or registered trademarks of NCSOFT Corporation. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.